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Fish is such a great character, I would miss her if she dies this season. Jada owns that character.
The thing with Barbara, I’m not sure the writers know what to do with her, you know?
Before the show went on hiatus, when she hooked up with Rene, I felt that relationship was very intriguing and see where it could develop (if there were plans at all) and then as soon as you see them again, that relationship is dumped altogether.
I mean, if she is meant to end up with Jim, fine – but if it’s supposed to happen when he’s Commissioner Jim Gordon, well, he’s not even at that point in his life yet so what’s the point of Barbara being in the story? Seriously, what is the point?!
[adrotate group="5"]Now as for FISH. She just didn’t think things through. She moved way to quick on Falcone. Way to quick.
They made a good point on the Afterbuzz podcast, how the original episode order was for 16 eps, so at about this point in the original story arc they’d probably plotted out, they’d have been a few eps away from the big finale. Considering that, it’s more understandable why Fish already made her move (and got caught).
Jim is supposed to have a daughter that becomes Batgirl so it’s possible that they are sowing the seeds for that in the next coming season(s).
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixWhat I mean is that Jim may get a newborn daughter in the coming season(s) that the audience will know eventually becomes Batgirl, not that we will ever see Batgirl in Gotham because Batman does come first.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixI swear…I hope Fish Mooney doesn’t die….she’s one of the reasons I love the show. Though a part of me ships her with Harvey Bullock, so I’m hoping that they get to her in time….who knows, she may just be a valuable asset in really bringing down Falcone…no doubt if she does survive next episode, she’d be pissed off at Falcone for trying to “torture” her to death.
And I am shipping Jim and Leslie like NO ONE’S BUSINESS!!! I’m just really loving that ship!!!
A part of me giggled though at the promo when Fish asks her torturer “That all you got?”
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
Just watched the latest episode of Gotham. God, was it awful! I’m still trying to figure out why Barbara even exists since she doesn’t really add anything to the plot. At all. Gotham’s version of Romeo and Juliet, Graysons vs. Lloyd’s feuding families over a stolen horse that dates back to World War I.
Are you freaking kidding me?
The joker has mommy issues and he went insane because his mother was a whore and she was sleeping with a clown? There’s a joke in there somewhere.
And Fish Mooney is all the sudden a humanitarian, standing up for a bunch of strangers against some weird crime syndicate who snatches up people and harvests their limbs for the ultra rich?
I think the writers can find better use for Selina and Ivy than use them as Barbara’s love experts.
God, was it awful! I’m still trying to figure out why Barbara even exists since she doesn’t really add anything to the plot.
THIS FOR ALL THE FREAKING COOKIES IN THE WORLD
GOD I HATE BARBARA
I’ve been talking to others on another forum, so I’ll just repost my latest thoughts on this show here
the episode was so unbelievably disjointed because it had way too many stories going on at once: Barbara and the dynamic orphan duo who give life lessons, Jim and his new squeeze, Fish and the most uninteresting plot ever, Penguin sitting in his nightclub, Baby Batman goes to work, and the real reason I tuned in: the Joker (with a surprise side of Robin’s parents because we really need to add in every possible Batman figure just in case the show is cancelled before they get a chance to do them all).
I’ll say this though…the kid who played the Joker? Wonderful. Keep him. Use him. Make him do something besides be a nod to the comic book figure. Because he was great. That smile, the laugh….perfect. Also, I really liked the dark comedy this week, like following a snake to a dead woman.
They have got to reduce the number of plot lines. Is it a mythology show that is building origins, is it a tough and gritty cop show? Yes, it can be both, but not by dipping their toes into every possible pool imaginable. I’m not opposed, at all, to seeing the Batman figures pre-Batman (it was a big reason why I tuned in originally) but none of them are getting any kind of development, with a minor exception to Penguin. They’ve had Penguin, The Riddler, Joker, Scarecrow, possibly Harley Quinn if Nygma’s girl in the file room turns out to be her, Poison Ivy, Catwoman, and now prenatal Robin. And this is to say nothing of the entire mob plot that is important to the feel of Gotham as a city that needs saving, but is so slow and heavy and full of silly scene chewing (like Fish) that the mob portion is becoming unwatchable most weeks.
What are we building up to here? The finale is in two(?) weeks and I don’t know where this show is going or what it’s striving towards. Arkham keeps getting teased but then put on the back burner while they bring in new comic villains. The mob war which was front and center since the pilot seems to be resolved with Meroni and Falcone making up and Penguin’s life secure as a loyal Falcone man and Fish…doing whatever the hell Fish is doing. Baby Batman is no closer to finding his parents killers and the other under-13 squad are just crashing in a penthouse until some wise adult decides to do something about them. So, my real question is, what was this season really supposed to be doing?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Disjointed is right @rumplesgirl. The whole episode was all over the place. What I’ve liked about Gotham so far is that they continue storylines from past episodes. The Scarecrow arc was really good, the way that carried over.
I’m not sure if Barbara actually has an arc. She’s just kinda there. I think when she came home, prior to that, she had been partying and what was the purpose of introducing her parents and then not even seeing more of their interaction? The writer’s give her these small scenes and it rarely connects to the over all plot.
The kid who is our Joker, he was awesome. That laugh. So very creepy.
I’m not sure what the end game is for this season. I haven’t really thought about it all that much. I don’t think its solving who killed Bruce’s parents. I think that will be dragged out as long as the writer’s possibly can.
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