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February 14, 2013 at 5:53 am #173204PheeParticipant
Hmmm, I’m still not convinced that they’re a couple. If she’s just someone he was with on the outside, they’re not just gonna invite her to come back to town and reveal all their secrets to her.
I’d been thinking she was someone who Blue sent to spy on Neal, and in doing so, she ends up finding the MIA August (before his arrival in SB) as well. Seeing her in this scene that involves Neal, August, and also Blue, would fit with that theory.
[adrotate group="5"]February 14, 2013 at 1:24 pm #173246ComfaeParticipant@Phee wrote:
Hmmm, I’m still not convinced that they’re a couple. If she’s just someone he was with on the outside, they’re not just gonna invite her to come back to town and reveal all their secrets to her.
I’d been thinking she was someone who Blue sent to spy on Neal, and in doing so, she ends up finding the MIA August (before his arrival in SB) as well. Seeing her in this scene that involves Neal, August, and also Blue, would fit with that theory.
I agree. I think the writers want us to believe they’re a couple. Remember one of the informations about “Manhattan” :
4. Heartbreak Hotel
Emmaโs trip to Manhattan will break her heart. Twice. But maybe it all needed to happen this way?I think the most precious information here is the “maybe it all needed to happen this way”. Maybe Emma will, like us, believe that “Tamara” is Neal’s girlfriend and she’ll be jealous, awakening her feelings for Neal.
But who is “Tamara” ? A “normal” person, or a FTL character ? Well, I have an idea :
If Neal is Baelfire AND Peter Pan, then “Tamara” could be Tinkerbell. Like Phee said, the Blue Fairy could have sent her to spy on Neal, and since she’s a fairy, it would be logical that she’d send another fairy to fulfill that mission. Moreover, the casting call for Tamara said : “she won’t stop until she gets what she wants”, and remember that Tinkerbell doesn’t stop until she gets Peter Pan’s affection. And it would add a nice parallel between Emma and Neal : “Tamara” would be Neal’s guardian angel just like August is Emma’s guardian angel."Whatever spot you pick, thatโs our home." #BelieveInTallahassee #HopeForRogueBison
February 14, 2013 at 1:38 pm #173250RumplesGirlKeymaster@slurpeez108 wrote:
Looks like Tamara and Neal (Sonequa Martin-Green & Michael Raymond-James, respectively) are standing together in SB. Maybe they’re an item after all. ๐ฎ
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. *joins in SwanFire prayer circle*
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@Phee wrote:
Hmmm, I’m still not convinced that they’re a couple. If she’s just someone he was with on the outside, they’re not just gonna invite her to come back to town and reveal all their secrets to her.
Me either. I don’t think Neal would do that. I think he honestly has been waiting 11 years for Emma.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"February 14, 2013 at 1:47 pm #173255mich7Participant@RumplesGirl wrote:
@slurpeez108 wrote:
Looks like Tamara and Neal (Sonequa Martin-Green & Michael Raymond-James, respectively) are standing together in SB. Maybe they’re an item after all. ๐ฎ
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. *joins in SwanFire prayer circle*
@Comfae wrote:
@Phee wrote:
Hmmm, I’m still not convinced that they’re a couple. If she’s just someone he was with on the outside, they’re not just gonna invite her to come back to town and reveal all their secrets to her.
Me either. I don’t think Neal would do that. I think he honestly has been waiting 11 years for Emma.
But if she is there with him and witnessing all of this then she must know something which means if Neal is the one that told her then they are obviously close…and we have yet to see her with August at all…every time she shows up it’s with Neal.
Honestly, my heart is sinking right now…perhaps this is why MRJ is only a recurring character and not a regular…which is the same thing with Tamara…both with optional pickups for season 3. They may use Neal to deal with Emma’s heartbreak and move on. ๐
February 14, 2013 at 1:51 pm #173257RumplesGirlKeymaster@Mich7 wrote:
But if she is there with him and witnessing all of this then she must know something which means if Neal is the one that told her then they are obviously close…and we have yet to see her with August at all…every time she shows up it’s with Neal.
Honestly, my heart is sinking right now…perhaps this is why MRJ is only a recurring character and not a regular…which is the same thing with Tamara…both with optional pickups for season 3. They may use Neal to deal with Emma’s heartbreak and move on. ๐
Unless Tamara is Tinkerbell and Neal is Peter Pan, then that might explain their closeness. Or maybe not even Tinkerbell, because I think that might be the BF, but another fairy dispatched by the BF to keep an eye on NealFire Pan. If Emma and Neal aren’t supposed to be together as a True Love couple…then WHO is she supposed to be with?? Forgive me CaptainSwaners, but I really don’t see her with Hook. I think they can flirt and there are similarities, but she is clearly supposed to be with Neal.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"February 14, 2013 at 2:00 pm #173259mich7Participant@RumplesGirl wrote:
@Mich7 wrote:
But if she is there with him and witnessing all of this then she must know something which means if Neal is the one that told her then they are obviously close…and we have yet to see her with August at all…every time she shows up it’s with Neal.
Honestly, my heart is sinking right now…perhaps this is why MRJ is only a recurring character and not a regular…which is the same thing with Tamara…both with optional pickups for season 3. They may use Neal to deal with Emma’s heartbreak and move on. ๐
Unless Tamara is Tinkerbell and Neal is Peter Pan, then that might explain their closeness. Or maybe not even Tinkerbell, because I think that might be the BF, but another fairy dispatched by the BF to keep an eye on NealFire Pan. If Emma and Neal aren’t supposed to be together as a True Love couple…then WHO is she supposed to be with?? Forgive me CaptainSwaners, but I really don’t see her with Hook. I think they can flirt and there are similarities, but she is clearly supposed to be with Neal.
Unfortunately I questioned whether Neal was her end game romance when they did not make MRJ a regular. Which really bites since they went out of their way to make it such a wonderful romance in Tallahassee but then they are going to make Milah and Rumple’s seem good as well. Well at least I’m prepared for disappointment…that’s why I check out spoilers…to brace myself.
The actress that plays Tamara is also on The Walking Dead…maybe I’ll get lucky and see her eaten by a zombie ๐ lol or I’ll just imagine that every time I see her on screen with Neal.
February 14, 2013 at 2:07 pm #173263RumplesGirlKeymaster@Mich7 wrote:
Unfortunately I questioned whether Neal was her end game romance when they did not make MRJ a regular. Which really bites since they went out of their way to make it such a wonderful romance in Tallahassee but then they are going to make Milah and Rumple’s seem good as well. Well at least I’m prepared for disappointment…that’s why I check out spoilers…to brace myself.
The actress that plays Tamara is also on The Walking Dead…maybe I’ll get lucky and see her eaten by a zombie ๐ lol or I’ll just imagine that every time I see her on screen with Neal.
I’m trying so hard to not hate this lady we know almost nothing about. lol.
Well on the SwanFire front: I think having Henry be such a major character means they are going to try to keep SwanFire together. No moral judgement here, but on a show that is trying to be “family friendly” I think they happily ever after for Henry is to have his parents together, in FTL, having adventures."He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"February 14, 2013 at 2:15 pm #173265SlurpeezParticipant@RumplesGirl wrote:
@Mich7 wrote:
Unfortunately I questioned whether Neal was her end game romance when they did not make MRJ a regular. Which really bites since they went out of their way to make it such a wonderful romance in Tallahassee but then they are going to make Milah and Rumple’s seem good as well. Well at least I’m prepared for disappointment…that’s why I check out spoilers…to brace myself.
The actress that plays Tamara is also on The Walking Dead…maybe I’ll get lucky and see her eaten by a zombie ๐ lol or I’ll just imagine that every time I see her on screen with Neal.
I’m trying so hard to not hate this lady we know almost nothing about. lol.
Well on the SwanFire front: I think having Henry be such a major character means they are going to try to keep SwanFire together. No moral judgement here, but on a show that is trying to be “family friendly” I think they happily ever after for Henry is to have his parents together, in FTL, having adventures.Yeah, all of that is Henry’s Happily Ever After (HEA), which I think will align with Emma’s and Neal’s HEA. Plus, as has been pointed out in other threads, Emma is the product of true love, as were her parents. As we’ve seen from 2×6, Henry is the product of true love. I think that has always been the end game for the savior of the curse to end up with the reason for the curse. It’s just such a nice parallel and a beautiful narrative arch.
@RumplesGirl wrote:
Unless Tamara is Tinkerbell and Neal is Peter Pan, then that might explain their closeness. Or maybe not even Tinkerbell, because I think that might be the BF, but another fairy dispatched by the BF to keep an eye on NealFire Pan. If Emma and Neal aren’t supposed to be together as a True Love couple…then WHO is she supposed to be with?? Forgive me CaptainSwaners, but I really don’t see her with Hook. I think they can flirt and there are similarities, but she is clearly supposed to be with Neal.
I’m gonna join that Nealfire prayer circle with hopes that Tamara is just NealFire Pans’ good fairy friend, and nothing more.
"Thatโs how you know youโve really got a home. When you leave it, thereโs this feeling that you canโt shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
February 14, 2013 at 2:22 pm #173268mich7Participant@RumplesGirl wrote:
@Mich7 wrote:
Unfortunately I questioned whether Neal was her end game romance when they did not make MRJ a regular. Which really bites since they went out of their way to make it such a wonderful romance in Tallahassee but then they are going to make Milah and Rumple’s seem good as well. Well at least I’m prepared for disappointment…that’s why I check out spoilers…to brace myself.
The actress that plays Tamara is also on The Walking Dead…maybe I’ll get lucky and see her eaten by a zombie ๐ lol or I’ll just imagine that every time I see her on screen with Neal.
I’m trying so hard to not hate this lady we know almost nothing about. lol.
Well on the SwanFire front: I think having Henry be such a major character means they are going to try to keep SwanFire together. No moral judgement here, but on a show that is trying to be “family friendly” I think they happily ever after for Henry is to have his parents together, in FTL, having adventures.I’ve always thought that too but now I don’t know…Milah and Rumple did not stay together…and Bae really hasn’t had a good time of it. I mean last season (even though everyone was under the curse) just didn’t seem as hopeless to me…this season just seems dark…I mean the Rumbelle thing was almost more than I could take…now Swanfire.
I know happy endings are supposed to be just that…endings but I expect some happy along the way as well. We got happy with Swanthief in the beginning but by the end of the episode it was destroyed and now they aren’t even going to give us the little bit of happy reconciliation before they tear that away. Even Rumbelle got more than that (not much…but a little more). lol maybe I should just stick with Snow and Charming…seems the only romance with any lasting happiness in it.
February 14, 2013 at 2:24 pm #173269mich7Participant@slurpeez108 wrote:
@RumplesGirl wrote:
@Mich7 wrote:
Unfortunately I questioned whether Neal was her end game romance when they did not make MRJ a regular. Which really bites since they went out of their way to make it such a wonderful romance in Tallahassee but then they are going to make Milah and Rumple’s seem good as well. Well at least I’m prepared for disappointment…that’s why I check out spoilers…to brace myself.
The actress that plays Tamara is also on The Walking Dead…maybe I’ll get lucky and see her eaten by a zombie ๐ lol or I’ll just imagine that every time I see her on screen with Neal.
I’m trying so hard to not hate this lady we know almost nothing about. lol.
Well on the SwanFire front: I think having Henry be such a major character means they are going to try to keep SwanFire together. No moral judgement here, but on a show that is trying to be “family friendly” I think they happily ever after for Henry is to have his parents together, in FTL, having adventures.Yeah, all of that is Henry’s Happily Ever After (HEA), which I think will align with Emma’s and Neal’s HEA. Plus, as has been pointed out in other threads, Emma is the product of true love, as were her parents. As we’ve seen from 2×6, Henry is the product of true love. I think that has always been the end game for the savior of the curse to end up with the reason for the curse. It’s just such a nice parallel and a beautiful narrative arch.
lol The two of you need to bottle that optimism and send some my way.
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