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Has Rumpel gone Zoso?

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  • March 24, 2015 at 6:45 pm #299755
    Gaultheria
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    I say yes, and that he’s chosen Emma — the heart with the greatest potential for darkness — to take his place.

    Gold, in 4B, strikes me as someone who is no longer playing to win. I think he’s trying to make Emma mad, to trick her into plunging the dagger into his chest.

    Testable prediction: Before the end of season 4, Gold will lose possession of the dagger to Emma, in a way that seems like good luck on her part and bad planning on his.

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    March 24, 2015 at 7:08 pm #299765
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    I think he’s trying to make Emma mad, to trick her into plunging the dagger into his chest.

    Yup. I think he’s aiming to die as well.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    March 24, 2015 at 7:19 pm #299768
    MatthewPaul
    Moderator

    Well, Emma did say this in the most recent episode:

    “If Gold did to me what he did to Hook, I’d want to shove that dagger through his heart, too.”

    If this theory holds any ground, could that be foreshadowing?

    March 24, 2015 at 8:09 pm #299772
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Well, Emma did say this in the most recent episode:

    “If Gold did to me what he did to Hook, I’d want to shove that dagger through his heart, too.”

    If this theory holds any ground, could that be foreshadowing?

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    Well spotted.

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    March 24, 2015 at 10:14 pm #299783
    Slurpeez
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    Also, Ursula revealed to Hook that Rumple’s plan is to make Emma’s heart dark, forever. How on Earth could he assure Emma’s heart would become darkened forever unless she becomes the next dark one? But I seriously hate this idea of Black Swan. If they go this route, I’m soooo done.

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    March 24, 2015 at 10:57 pm #299790
    Phee
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    Makes a lot of sense that this would be his goal. Torturing August could just be another part of him trying to get Emma mad at him.

    Would he succeed though? Would they (#familyshow) show Emma Swan actually stab her son’s grandfather to death? Rumple killing Zoso is seen as a cowardly move, a huge moment of weakness, would they show the show’s big hero falling all the way from grace to make the same mistake their big antagonist did? I’d think it more likely that she’d come close, but would stop at the last moment due to something Henry does, and in doing so it’s a big ole’ mirror of the situation where Rumple did the thing because of his son.

    March 24, 2015 at 10:59 pm #299791
    Keb
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    Yeah, I think Henry will stop her. But I also believe this is all leading up to a moment when Rumple will have to choose to put Henry and Belle’s happiness ahead of his own somehow.

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    March 24, 2015 at 11:04 pm #299792
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Would they (#familyshow) show Emma Swan actually stab her son’s grandfather to death?

    You mean the family show that killed the main kid’s father, showed drugs being shot up, and made penis jokes in the most recent episode?

    Yeah, I think Henry will stop her. But I also believe this is all leading up to a moment when Rumple will have to choose to put Henry and Belle’s happiness ahead of his own somehow.

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    Sure. And given how the writers see Rumple, he’ll choose himself.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    March 24, 2015 at 11:05 pm #299793
    MatthewPaul
    Moderator

    In all honesty, I too have my doubts they’d go as far as make Emma kill Rumple and become the new Dark One. In regards to the whole Dark Emma subplot, I think she’ll come close to going dark, but will ultimately not give in.

    March 24, 2015 at 11:08 pm #299794
    RumplesGirl
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    In all honesty, I too have my doubts they’d go as far as make Emma kill Rumple and become the new Dark One. In regards to the whole Dark Emma subplot, I think she’ll come close to going dark, but will ultimately not give in.

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    And if it’s not a matter of her going dark as an alternative universe in which Emma is dark because her parents are villains?

    Honestly I don’t think it’s far fetched *at all* that Emma is going to become some sort of anti savior before this season is done, however it happens and however long it lasts

    And even if it doesn’t last, Rumple dying—completely in the realm of possibility with how he is being written (and Belle)

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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