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And if it’s not a matter of her going dark as an alternative universe in which Emma is dark because her parents are villains?
Honestly I don’t think it’s far fetched *at all* that Emma is going to become some sort of anti savior before this season is done, however it happens and however long it lasts
And even if it doesn’t last, Rumple dying—completely in the realm of possibility with how he is being written (and Belle)
I’d say Rumple’s plot to turn Emma dark won’t even last that long. I’d say it could be resolved as early as the end of the next episode. Filming photos/set reports for 417-421 appear to show Emma acting like her normal self, but now obviously bitter towards her parents. Let’s face it, it wouldn’t be the first time they rushed through a plotline. ABC chose to promote Dark Emma because they knew it would get people interested, but they tend to overhype plot elements. We could see a full Dark Emma in the theorized AU in the finale, I’ll give you that. However, I wouldn’t be surprised if that doesn’t even come up in the finale at all.
[adrotate group="5"]My theory is Emma will stab Rumple in a way that makes her look a hero, he dies, she turns into the Dark One, but her curse is soon lifted by TLK from Hook.
That’s my take.
Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.
My theory is Emma will stab Rumple in a way that makes her look a hero, he dies, she turns into the Dark One, but her curse is soon lifted by TLK from Hook. That’s my take.
And #BOOM! That’s where we’re headed… (Applaudes Jo!!!)
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
My theory is Emma will stab Rumple in a way that makes her look a hero, he dies, she turns into the Dark One, but her curse is soon lifted by TLK from Hook. That’s my take.
And #BOOM! That’s where we’re headed… (Applaudes Jo!!!)
Oh, please don’t applaud me on that. Many of you know my opinions on this. But it’s how I think it will come to pass.
Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.
You mean the family show that killed the main kid’s father, showed drugs being shot up, and made penis jokes in the most recent episode?
Yup, that #familyshow. 😛 Even though they’ve done all that other stuff though, I still feel like Emma walking up to Rumple and stabbing him through the heart is a place they would be unlikely to go, because really, how do you then bring your big SAVIOUR!HERO back from first degree murder?
Oh, please don’t applaud me on that. Many of you know my opinions on this. But it’s how I think it will come to pass.
Though the writers don’t seem to care about ticking off the RumBelle shippers – so it wouldn’t be beyond them to take that TLK moment that almost but not quite happened in Skin Deep and give it to another couple instead for the BIG MOMENT where it actually works – for the sake of Disney and also original fairytale consistency, I think if there’s gonna be a TLK undoing the Dark One Curse moment, it should be between Belle and the Beast. In both of those other versions of the story, the Beast is on the verge of death and Belle’s love saves him.
Rather than Emma stabbing him, I could see her backing out of doing it, (hopefully because of Henry, because like I said, to mirror the parent/son situation whereby Rumple stabbed Zoso), and in a moment of desperation and frustration, Rumple grabs the Dagger and stabs himself, then along comes Belle to sob over him as he dies, and he comes back to life as a mortal. It would just fit with how the Beauty and the Beast story traditionally plays out, and it’s a major part of the story, and Rumple is always the one who has been our “Beast”, so they should be the two characters who get that Curse breaking moment.
(Of course, I have issues with all that because I don’t think Belle should still love Rumple after what they’ve had him do, but for the sake of fairytale consistency, they’re gonna end up reconciling somehow.)
In both of those other versions of the story, the Beast is on the verge of death and Belle’s love saves him. Rather than Emma stabbing him, I could see her backing out of doing it, (hopefully because of Henry, because like I said, to mirror the parent/son situation whereby Rumple stabbed Zoso), and in a moment of desperation and frustration, Rumple grabs the Dagger and stabs himself, then along comes Belle to sob over him as he dies, and he comes back to life as a mortal. It would just fit with how the Beauty and the Beast story traditionally plays out, and it’s a major part of the story, and Rumple is always the one who has been our “Beast”, so they should be the two characters who get that Curse breaking moment. (Of course, I have issues with all that because I don’t think Belle should still love Rumple after what they’ve had him do, but for the sake of fairytale consistency, they’re gonna end up reconciling somehow.)Very good points…but can anyone imagine a mortal Rumpelstilskin for Season 5? Speaking for myself, I can’t really see Rumple without all his magical glory, unless we have a lot of flashbacks!!! But…Rumple once said he planned to leave SB with Belle to travel the world…should he become mortal by the end of this season, is that where the story will be heading still? Him and Belle…Around the world.
Could Belle even take Rumple back…she still doesn’t even know about him killing Zelena and proposing to her right afterwards, or was it before…I can’t really remember anymore.
@Josephine, sorry for the applause darling, but it just seemed like such a likely thing Adam and Eddy would do. 🙂"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
Very good points…but can anyone imagine a mortal Rumpelstilskin for Season 5?
Mortal!Rumple in present day is a thing I’ve been wanting to see for ages. That would be an actually interesting arc for his character development, seeing him being forced to give up magic completely, having no prospect of getting it back, and seeing how he’d handle it, how he’d redefine himself, what choices he’d make, what his new role as a functioning human being would be. That’s a thing I’d very much like to see, (whether or not the writers would do it justice is another argument).
Could Belle even take Rumple back…
Honestly, the only way I think I’d be even remotely OK with it is if he DID go through the character development of being mortal and changing, and proving himself to be changed over a period of time, and having them slowly work their way back together, (again, whether or not the writers would do that is another argument). But let’s be real here, they’re Beauty and the Beast, those characters are a classic couple, so they’re gonna reconcile someway, somehow, probably sooner rather than later, whether it’s in a healthy way or not.
Yup, that #familyshow. 😛 Even though they’ve done all that other stuff though, I still feel like Emma walking up to Rumple and stabbing him through the heart is a place they would be unlikely to go, because really, how do you then bring your big SAVIOUR!HERO back from first degree murder?
Oh that’s very true. But I also think that suggests that this show shows emotional fallout and logical progression of feelings.
Honestly, I think Jo has the right of all this. Emma as the Black Swan won’t be for long and it (and her new dark heat) will be cured by one thing by seasons end.
Very good points…but can anyone imagine a mortal Rumpelstilskin for Season 5?
Do I want that? Yes.
Do Adam and Eddy? Clearly not.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I like what i’m reading, but I don’t think we know enough about The Dark One entity to know how this will end for Rumple.
The longer the show has gone on, the more I’ve started to think that The Dark One is a parasitic entity completely separate from its host – Rumple for the time being. Season 4 has really supported this idea for me.
Concerning the Sorcerer and the Apprentice, we learned from the Apprentice that “every Dark One tries” to get the Sorcerer’s hat. Why? The fact that all Dark Ones try to get the hat links them. Something about the Dark One Curse compels them (the hosts) to seek the Hat, because they are being controlled by this Curse/Entity in way they don’t fully understand.
I’m not saying Rumple doesn’t have to take responsibility for his evil, but what if his motivations weren’t always his own.
No matter what, I want to know the origins of the First Dark One before Rumple dies. I think knowing the story of the first Dark One would explain a lot and help us better to understand Rumple’s possible ending.
However i will say this. Just the line about Emma warning Hook “If you stab him, it will be your name written on the dagger,” make me think that we will definitely see a NEW Dark One at some point before the series ends.
As @TheWatcher proposed in another thread, maybe Lily could become the next dark one instead of Emma. Maybe, just as Emma is about to stab a dagger into Rumple’s heart, she has second thoughts because of how it would impact Henry, so she hesitates. Then, in swoops Lily to beat Emma to the punch, plunging the dagger into Rumple’s heart, thereby making Lily the next dark one, and therefore the Big Bad of S5 (assuming there is another season).
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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