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February 21, 2013 at 8:46 pm #136060tammythebearParticipant
I am sorry if I am repeating something that was already posted, but after watching Manhattan over and over it occured to me that maybe Henry is the real key to breaking the curse completely. Emma was the product of true love, and as such was named as the Savior that would come back on her 28th birthday to break the curse. When the curse was broken it didn’t completely break- the characters regained who they were in Fairytale Land but they didn’t go back. Could it be that fate/destiny pulled Emma (the daughter of the reason the curse was inacted by Regina) and Neal/Bae (the son of the man that made the curse) together to create Henry who is the real undoing of the curse. It is my belief that Neal and Emma deeply love each other (even now though they have some complications) and that Henry is the product of true love, just like Emma. Emma guards her heart because of all of her abandoment issues, and I believe that deep down Neal will always be her true love. Neal obviously still cares about Emma- he burst into his apartment to protect her after he asked her to lie and say that he got away… just 1 of many things that make me believe he still loves her too.
Could this Henry being the cure to the curse also make him Rumpel’s undoing in a way… maybe if the curse breaks then Rumpel’s power goes away?
Just thought I would throw that out there…. please feel free to comment with any thoughts you have.
[adrotate group="5"]February 21, 2013 at 8:49 pm #174709HappyEndingsSpectatorGood idea maybe that is the answer
February 21, 2013 at 9:04 pm #174715lilredParticipantJosephine, I believe and I’m really sorry if I’m wrong, had this great idea towards the end of last year where Henry is the next point in a cycle of true love. Working under the assumption that both David and Snow were children of true love (based on what their one parent said about the other – seems pretty likely), and true love begets true love – two products of true love fell in love and had Emma (another product of true love). I guess neither Snow or David have really shown signs of being magical – wait! Snow was able to activate Rumpel’s parchment! Maybe they’re capable but don’t like to rely on magic. Who could blame them!
Based on this episode, it does seem like this theory needs to be awaken (and I’m going to search through old posts because I know it has been phrased better than I’m presenting it! Will post the quote here when I find it again..). Henry is vital to so many BIG players on the show – and knowing he’ll be the dark one’s undoing – I could see him growing up to be very powerful. Henry awakening his magic to protect any member of his extended family (part of me is thinking Regina especially) could be an interesting end of the season.
February 21, 2013 at 9:44 pm #174726nonnieParticipantSorry… I disagree with you… Henry is the product of TRUE LUST … the searching and yearning of young people but not true love… true love comes from facing adversity together, sticking together through thick and thin… illness, wars, economic downturns…. that is what might help season love and making it true.
I also question whether David’s parents had true love… after all they gave up a son to King George (?) Do loving parents do that?? regardless of the circumstances??
Snow and PC seemed to have true love as they are always going back to each other… but I see some bumpy roads ahead for them.
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,February 21, 2013 at 10:00 pm #174729lilredParticipantWell, the ring she gave David apparently true love follows it – that’s how I’ve made the leap that they may of had true love.
As for the rest, I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree – I’m pretty sure most of your prescription for true love is coming for swan fire and find Bae leaving her because he wanted her to fulfill her destiny and live a happy life at least a selfless kind of love. Lust usually doesn’t cause you to have the types of emotions I feel seen in Manhattan 11 years after the fact – or keep little tokens of that person and the time you were happiest, IMHO.
February 21, 2013 at 10:12 pm #174733beastwhispererParticipantNeal and Emma were living in a car, stealing to eat, and sneaking into motels just to shower. I’d call that facing adversity together. They wanted to create a steady and stable life together before August popped up talking about magical destinies and calling Neal by his FTL name. At that point Neal let Emma go so she could find the family she’d always longed for. That’s selfless. I cannot blame him for not feeling that he could follow her. I love Rumple but he was a magically addicted murderer who scared the heck out of Bae before abandoning him. If Bae had to go a seperate way until fate caught up to him again, I can’t condemn him for it.
February 21, 2013 at 10:24 pm #174736schmackyParticipantNeal let Emma go so she could find the family she’d always longed for. That’s selfless.
No, that’s cowardice wrapped in selfless wrapping paper. He could have gone with her to find that family she’d always longed for. But, he was too scared to do so.
February 21, 2013 at 10:40 pm #174737CrownedWithLaurelsParticipantWas too scared? He was told he would have to leave the picture in order for her to get her life back. Yes he was told by Pinocchio 😆 but he was told it wasn’t negotiable. That there wasn’t a choice for him to stay with her. He gave her all the money, he gave her the car… He made it more than clear that he would have stuck with her, if that is what she needed. He told August, “I can help her”. August made it clear that he couldn’t.
He was willing to give her up to save her life before he even had his encounter with August. When they found the wanted poster. We already witnessed selfless love. Love that didn’t want Emma to get in trouble for something he had done. IMO, He didn’t let her take the blame out of fear for himself. He’s willing to give her up so she doesn’t get in trouble in one scene, and in the next after August’s meeting, all of a sudden, he gives her up out of fear and let’s her take the blame out of selfishness?
I believe it is consistent selflessness.
Also, Giving her up wasn’t only about helping Emma. It was about helping a town full of people from a land he grew up in. From a land he wanted to forget, that he ran away from. But he let her go. <3 To save all of them.
Keeper Nealfire's/Bae's scarf, Henry and Neal's bribery ice cream sundae, Baelfire's sword, the coconut map, and more.
February 21, 2013 at 10:48 pm #174740beastwhispererParticipantExactly, CrownedWithLaurels! He was even willing to do the jailtime in her place. He wasn’t happy about having to let her go. It wasn’t easy for him.
February 21, 2013 at 10:54 pm #174743CrownedWithLaurelsParticipantAs we have seen and heard many times, it has been made very clear esp in Manhattan that Nealfire believes in destiny. August told Neal this was about her destiny. I think that won out.
Here’s the deal. Yeah I’m sure he was afraid that someone actually knew his name and of his father finding him.
But I don’t think that is what made him give her up. He could have sold the watches with Emma, had some $$ and ran off, the curse never being broken and Rumple never getting out of Storybrooke nor ever getting back his memories to find his son. So if he was being selfish, and feared for himself due to his father, I think he would have just not listened to Pinocchio, because as long as the curse was enacted he wouldn’t have to worry about his father.Now, granted, we don’t know how much he was told about the curse, and we haven’t been told yet how August even found them in the first place. But I hope we will find all that out soon!
Keeper Nealfire's/Bae's scarf, Henry and Neal's bribery ice cream sundae, Baelfire's sword, the coconut map, and more.
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