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Well we know that she contacted agencies and they told her a two year wait. So she knew that Gold would procure a baby for her in a not so good way. So was the agency paid off and what did Gold do to the other family?
[adrotate group="5"]Well we know that she contacted agencies and they told her a two year wait. So she knew that Gold would procure a baby for her in a not so good way. So was the agency paid off and what did Gold do to the other family?
Yes if we add in the Gold factor, this comes across as even more shady.
Somehow Gold got this agency to agree to lessen the time (and maybe all the red tape) so that Regina could have THIS baby.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I think we have to look at Fate like a magnet. It draws all things into it. For me, it explains a lot. Rumple knew that Reggie was missing love because of Daniel and the lack of love from Cora. As a seer, he might have seen her interactions with Owen. He could have planted her wanting & needed a child within the curse. He could have also put something in the curse that brought the first born of the saviour to SB and in turn brought the Saviour. He is afterall Rumplestiltskin and does procure first born children. It all comes down to the curse and fate like a magnet, drawing in everyone involved.
Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.
I think we have to look at Fate like a magnet. It draws all things into it. For me, it explains a lot. Rumple knew that Reggie was missing love because of Daniel and the lack of love from Cora. As a seer, he might have seen her interactions with Owen. He could have planted her wanting & needed a child within the curse. He could have also put something in the curse that brought the first born of the saviour to SB and in turn brought the Saviour. He is afterall Rumplestiltskin and does procure first born children. It all comes down to the curse and fate like a magnet, drawing in everyone involved.
Sure fate played its part as I suspected it would, but I said a few pages back, they circumvented everything that agencies have to do. And it was so shady (and sneaky).
So this is how it happened
–Baby Henry is born and somehow he gets from AZ to MA. Pretty sure adoptions are state regulated and not national (correct me if I’m wrong)
–He had a family for a few weeks in Boston but they gave him back
–Gold somehow found out about this (HOW? He’s Gold not Rumple and news can’t get into and out of SB) and tells Regina
–Regina goes to Boston with a list of references, signs a piece of paper and makes a joke about why no one has heard of SB and the agency guy obviously hasn’t done anything agencies would do : check out the mother, check out her family and friends, check out her home, go to the actual town and house. And *POOF* Here’s a baby for you!
Minus the five second scene of the Darling Bros, this story could have been told ages ago. It felt like the writers said “ok, we should tell this story now! Oh I know let’s tie it to the present day stuff by having the henchman at the end”
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I think we have to look at Fate like a magnet. It draws all things into it. For me, it explains a lot.
I’m all about fate having a role. Obviously it wasn’t random chance that of all the babies in the whole country, Henry specifically came to Regina. But I think they could have found a more convincing way to write that.
That adoption agent was a real world person, who just happened to end up as a pawn in the plot that fate had in store, but I can’t explain away his negligence just by saying, “it was fate, so it had to happen that way.” As a real world person who deals with adoptive parents all the time, red flags should have shot up for him when the place Regina came from didn’t even appear to exist. Red flags should have shot up for him when Regina brought the baby back, and then left with him again moments later. But instead this guy was asking no questions and was just happily batting baby Henry around. “Ooops, the Boston family pulled out, but hey, I’ll give him to this lady instead, oh oops, she called to say she’s bringing him back, but those two hipster guys wanted a kid and I know nothing about them, just like I knew nothing about that Regina lady, but hey, I’ll just pass the kid onto them next.” And he was going about this business openly in his office. Maybe if they’d had that character played as being colder, and obviously dealing in something shady I’d have bought it? But he seemed to not be a horrible, cold, unfeeling person, so his actions just baffle me, and a simple, “it’s fate” just isn’t a satisfactory explanation IMO.
ok heres how i rationalised the fact that the agent guy had no interest in checking Storybrooke: Regina had placed a magic spell on the building and all those inside it before she walked in: a confundus charm from Harry Potter. problem solved. after all, we never saw Regina go into the building just her in there with the agent.
as to logic of “Oh you changed your mind, here let us help you change it back: the adoption agency thoug that Regina was less shady than the Darling brothers although she came form a town that did not exist.
also: this was 2002, how many small towns the size of storybrooke which we can sssume ahs less than 1000 had a website or a hit on google maps? was there even a google map in 2002? she coudl have just said “oh your information must somehwo be out of date my town was only founded in 1983”
i dont know just trying to rationalize soem stuff that admittedly does not make sense.
Magic always comes with a price, so I pay with visa.
Regina had placed a magic spell on the building and all those inside it before she walked in: a confundus charm from Harry Potter. problem solved. after all, we never saw Regina go into the building just her in there with the agent.
But…can Regina even do magic outside of SB? She only brought a little bit with her from FTL.
also: this was 2002, how many small towns the size of storybrooke which we can sssume ahs less than 1000 had a website or a hit on google maps? was there even a google map in 2002? she coudl have just said “oh your information must somehwo be out of date my town was only founded in 1983″
Still doesn’t explain why there is no home visit. Or judges.
Also, just rewatched. The Darling Bros as they leave say “we won’t give up. We will get that child.” So were GOAT taking their orders from the DBs?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Also, just rewatched. The Darling Bros as they leave say “we won’t give up. We will get that child.” So were GOAT taking their orders from the DBs?
What is GOAT?
Keeper of Regina's blackened sole special.
I’ll admit the writers are entitled to fudge reality, especially when it comes to legal technicalities. It’s not a procedural or legal show, plus there’s a lot of variation about how states handle things between states, and even in the same one over time.
Anyway, the whole adoption still was shady. Regardless of whether Regina filed magic paperwork, what she filed was based on a sham world she created. We know there were no follow-up state workers to do home visits. Her references were likely people in her curse, programmed to say nice things about her (because who dares to do otherwise with Madame Mayor?).
The agent didn’t come across as some greedy, child-seller. He seemed more like your standard agency shill, someone who punches in their time but doesn’t try too hard beyond the minimum required of his job. So I guess it works that he wasn’t curious about Regina. She had the paperwork, she looked the part, and then I guess we’re to assume he punts the ball to the state government to do the follow-up. He files his report with them, and then some clerk gets a magic report that all is well and no one is the wiser.
Somehow Regina was able to get Sydney to talk to people to get information for her, so there’s some influence from SB to people outside of it, though I don’t know if it is the same as magic spells. It might be that money /credit created with magic in SB can affect databases outside of it or something. I’m still not sure how that works with Mm’s credit card that Henry stole.
Might be time to find our “pot holes” thread.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
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