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There is plenty of story they could do if they made the father a muggle as well. Doing the whole you are nuts thing and what do you mean your parents are Snow White and Prince Charming. There is a lot of story going both ways. I actually think it would be interesting to introduce someone from the outside to the group. Though in a lot of ways that character is Emma. She grew up outside and is the nonbeliever trying to believe.
[adrotate group="5"]If muggle means a normal person, then oh agreed, Heather. It would be interesting for the show to ever face a threat of outsiders figuring out fairy tales are real and what they would do if they did. ? Would he try to blackmail them? Would there be more magic power hungry people descending on their town? Could add some urgency to the “We must get back to fairy tale land.”
Didn’t one of the creators say in an interview that Henry’s father wasn’t going to be just some random bloke but would actually be quite significant or something along those lines.
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Keeper of FelixThis is a great thread. Lots of options discussed and most of them seem potentially plausible to me. I’m really interested to see who Henry’s dad ends up being.
The only idea I’m really subscribing to at this point is that I really think it’ll turn out he was married and had an affair with Emma. She’s hinted at having been involved with a married man, and I know that part of the story she told Henry about his dad was bogus, but I don’t think it was all a lie. I can’t get past the bit about how he always asked for pumpkin pie, and Emma seemed to be remembering it as a quirk in him she’d found endearing. Can’t help but take it as a “Peter Peter Pumpkin Eater” shoutout. He, “had a wife and couldn’t keep her,” and also, “had another but didn’t love her.” I don’t think it means he’s THE Peter, character from a nursery rhyme brought to life or anything, I just think it was a hint about his personality and his story.
I wouldn’t have a problem with Henry’s dad being some ordinary person from our world, and think he could still have an impact and play a vital role in the story without being Bae.
As things are right now, Regina is on the outs, and Emma’s gonna be wanting custody of Henry. If they now have access to the outside world and vice versa, (I know we don’t know if that’s so yet, but considering Mr Gold was planning a trip, I’m guessing that the barrier between Storybrooke and our world is now gone), Regina could very well go looking for Henry’s father just to throw a wrench in Emma’s bid for custody. And once an outsider comes to town and gets involved with these people…
@Oncescape wrote:If muggle means a normal person, then oh agreed, Heather. It would be interesting for the show to ever face a threat of outsiders figuring out fairy tales are real and what they would do if they did. ? Would he try to blackmail them? Would there be more magic power hungry people descending on their town? Could add some urgency to the “We must get back to fairy tale land.”
…exactly! It could potentially add a whole new dynamic to the show if Henry’s dad is just a regular person from our world, and through his connection to Henry and Emma, Storybrooke could become exposed to our ordinary world for what it really is.
But then it would also be a great storyline if he ends up being Bae and that ties Rumple to the other characters in a whole new way. So I really don’t mind which way it ends up going. I could certainly see that Bae could have become a tormented man if he had to grow up in our world with his FTL memories, so Emma saying he wasn’t a nice guy could certainly fit. And the whole Baelfire/firefighter thing could potentially be a huge hint.
I also haven’t given up on the idea of Bae having become Peter Pan though. Oooo, crackpot theory time…he originally went through the vortex to Neverland, became Peter Pan, who had the ability to travel to our world and at some point opted to stay here, aged, and ended up being the Peter cheater from the nursery rhyme who got Emma pregnant. Or would that be too convoluted? LOL
The motivation for J.M. Barrie writing Peter Pan was the death of his 13 year old brother. His brother died 2 days before his 14th birthday. Note that Bae was 14 when he disappeared.
Barrie called Peter and the children of Neverland `lost boys`. This was in reference to parents that had lost children to death, as his mother had. Note that Rumples ALWAYS refers to Bae as being `lost`.
Peter Pan and the other lost boys were caught between two worlds. Life & death. Note that Bae is caught between two worlds, magic & real world.
The Blue Fairy instructs Bae to follow the magic bean wherever it leads him. This leads us to believe that he went to at least one other world before reaching ours.
Robert Carlyle has admitted that Rumples is several centuries old. So timeline for Bae going missing is many centuries as well, as he went through the vortex when Rumples first took power. The 1st and 2nd Ogre Wars also show us that time frame. This was long before Snow, PC, EQ, Gepetto, Jiminy, etc. So, considering that Bae is several centuries old, it would make sense if he landed in Neverland and remained 14 prior to coming to the real world.
Peter Pan would travel to the real world and bring children back to Neverland. Emma was an orphan, living in an orphanage. What if Peter traveled there looking for `lost boys`. Bae had a friend Morraine back in FTL. I believe a young Emma would have resembled Morraine in many ways. Perhaps Peter became quite taken with Emma and decided to stay. Perhaps Emma convinced him to stay, just as Wendy attempted to do in the original story. Perhaps he ended up in that same orphanage from 14 on, developed a friendship with Emma that ended in their late teens. That could also bring into play the possibility of Bae, aka Peter Pan, being Henry`s father.
We now have Captain Hook in SB. K&H also stated that we would find out about Bae this season as we would about Henry`s father. Funny how they have brought Michael Raymond-James in, with a recurring role, and have been so secretive about his character. Let`s not forget how uncanny his resemblance is to Dylan Schmid, young Baelfire.
This has been my theory since last February that Bae would end up as Peter Pan. Recent spoilers have only convinced more. In Season 2 stills, we see Henry floating outside his window. Coincidence? I don’t think so. I think he inherited his father’s special gift of flying. In the upcoming issue of TV Guide, posted here under the News tab, Josh Dallas says this about Emma & Henry’s father: “there is a certain percentage of this man that Emma knows, and a certain part that she doesn’t. She had some sort of relationship with him, but there is an element of surprise for Emma as to the fullness of who this man is.” This would follow my theory of Peter Pan showing up at Emma’s orphanage at 14 and remaining for a number of years. She knows him as an adolescent/young adult from the orphanage but has no idea of his Fairy Tale character.
Go team Bae/Peter Pan/Henry’s fatherKeeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.
I want to support team Baelfire/Peter Pan/ Henry’s father, but I can’t. I love the idea of August and Bae being part of the ‘Lost Boys’. I can see Baelifre making a connection between Hook and his father, maybe fueling his hatred of Hook.
I just keep coming back to Bae going to ‘A Land Without Magic’. Via magic bean. I see him as being Jack. Although new spoiler pictures have me questioning this theory, I thought the Jack retelling would be a shocker in that Baelfire lands in Boston (posted awhile ago the Baelfire has to have landed in Beantown aka Boston), Boston is his land of giants (people and buildings), he’s an uneducated peasant’s son who’d have to resort to stealing to survive, and probably get in deep trouble with the law. The character Jack was a thief as well as a murder. This sounds like the type of guy you wouldn’t tell about his son. As Emma said, “he was no hero.” Jim Henson said something along those lines about Jack from Jack and the Beanstalk – disgusted with how storytellers had tried to make Jack seem heroic when he had really done some horrible things.
I’m not sure we’ll actually get a Peter Pan this season. Instead, maybe allusions to Peter Pan through Henry. I am a supporter of Baelfire = Jack = Henry’s dad. For some reason, when Henry learns about ALL sides of his family tree, I see him freaking out. Possibly running away with Hook to Neverland to become a Pirate. I know it’s a long shot, but seeing that Rumple and Hook had past conflict(s) I could see Hook trying to win Henry over just to mess with Rumple.
So – team Baelfire/Henry’s Father?
I’m rooting for Baelfire to be Henry’s father too. It just makes too much sense to not be true. And it would add an extra element of mystery to Henry’s character. Henry could quite possibily have two of the most powerful parents on the show. Emma is the savior, and the curse is actually about Baelfire, so that makes him significant as well. His parents will have a direct connection to not only the curse, but the center of the story. So, with Henry having such powerful parents, what does that make Henry? He could end up being this story’s Luke Skywalker for all we know.
@TheGoldenKey wrote:
The motivation for J.M. Barrie writing Peter Pan was the death of his 13 year old brother. His brother died 2 days before his 14th birthday. Note that Bae was 14 when he disappeared.
Barrie called Peter and the children of Neverland `lost boys`. This was in reference to parents that had lost children to death, as his mother had. Note that Rumples ALWAYS refers to Bae as being `lost`.
Peter Pan and the other lost boys were caught between two worlds. Life & death. Note that Bae is caught between two worlds, magic & real world.
The Blue Fairy instructs Bae to follow the magic bean wherever it leads him. This leads us to believe that he went to at least one other world before reaching ours.
Robert Carlyle has admitted that Rumples is several centuries old. So timeline for Bae going missing is many centuries as well, as he went through the vortex when Rumples first took power. The 1st and 2nd Ogre Wars also show us that time frame. This was long before Snow, PC, EQ, Gepetto, Jiminy, etc. So, considering that Bae is several centuries old, it would make sense if he landed in Neverland and remained 14 prior to coming to the real world.
Peter Pan would travel to the real world and bring children back to Neverland. Emma was an orphan, living in an orphanage. What if Peter traveled there looking for `lost boys`. Bae had a friend Morraine back in FTL. I believe a young Emma would have resembled Morraine in many ways. Perhaps Peter became quite taken with Emma and decided to stay. Perhaps Emma convinced him to stay, just as Wendy attempted to do in the original story. Perhaps he ended up in that same orphanage from 14 on, developed a friendship with Emma that ended in their late teens. That could also bring into play the possibility of Bae, aka Peter Pan, being Henry`s father.
We now have Captain Hook in SB. K&H also stated that we would find out about Bae this season as we would about Henry`s father. Funny how they have brought Michael Raymond-James in, with a recurring role, and have been so secretive about his character. Let`s not forget how uncanny his resemblance is to Dylan Schmid, young Baelfire.
This has been my theory since last February that Bae would end up as Peter Pan. Recent spoilers have only convinced more. In Season 2 stills, we see Henry floating outside his window. Coincidence? I don’t think so. I think he inherited his father’s special gift of flying. In the upcoming issue of TV Guide, posted here under the News tab, Josh Dallas says this about Emma & Henry’s father: “there is a certain percentage of this man that Emma knows, and a certain part that she doesn’t. She had some sort of relationship with him, but there is an element of surprise for Emma as to the fullness of who this man is.” This would follow my theory of Peter Pan showing up at Emma’s orphanage at 14 and remaining for a number of years. She knows him as an adolescent/young adult from the orphanage but has no idea of his Fairy Tale character.
Go team Bae/Peter Pan/Henry’s fatherI love the idea of Bae being Peter Pan. We saw the tearful reunion he had with August, who was an adult and not really his son. The idea of him having a reunion with Bae, and his boy still being a boy would be something I would love. Of course this messes with the Bae as Henry’s father part, but either way I love the idea of Bae as Peter.
I, personally, don’t really like the idea of Bae being Peter. It just doesn’t seem to fit his personality. Peter is impulsive and childish but Bae seems more cautious and rather mature for his age. Not only that, but, besides the faeries themselves, Peter is arguably the most magical person in Neverland (he is the only boy who can fly, after all). That doesn’t seem to fit with Bae, to me.
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