Hook and Baelfire

[dub1026]

I was wondering… Is there anything so far in the timeline preventing hook from going back to try and rescue Bae from the lost boys? Hooks line “the things we do for our children” kind of threw me off because I dont think the few days we saw them two together, he necessarily did anything for Bae. So at some point, he must have.

[dub1026]

Besides rescuing him of course, but I think there was more to that line… a deeper meaning.

[RumplesGirl]

Many of us have speculated that Hook deeply regretted handing Bae over to the Lost Ones and probably tried to rescue him at some point. The problem is that once you set foot on NL you can’t leave, at least that’s what was implied in ASOTM.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[winlea78]

I’m sure hook desired to rescue Bae. As I’ve said in past post, the OUAT way of showing relationships/encounters isn’t what it seems. Hook didn’t grow to care as deeply for Bae as be did overnight or even in a week. Your talking about a hardened man here who could be cruel and merciless. Bae had a Significant effect on him. So, IMO they were together for a while. So yes, it’s very possible- likely even- that he would try at least once to undo some of the damage.

[storybrookegirl]

What Wendy said about not being able to leave once you set foot on Neverland soil is that the Shadow doesn’t let people leave. If the Shadow doesn’t care about you, you can leave. So I bet Hook, not being a young boy (like Wendy wasn’t), would be able to leave. And in order to get Bae away, he would just have to beat the Shadow.

[Demileto]

I wouldn’t rule out Hook regretting his choice and attempting to rescue Bae. While A & E have changed quite a few things from the original tales in OUAT, they’ve never done so without kept their essences and Hook’s enmity with Peter Pan is one of those things. Since they’ve removed PP’s role in the loss of his left hand, it stands to reason that something else will have to motivate Hook to fight Peter, and a desire to rescue Bae seems a believable one.

@RumplesGirl wrote:

Many of us have speculated that Hook deeply regretted handing Bae over to the Lost Ones and probably tried to rescue him at some point. The problem is that once you set foot on NL you can’t leave, at least that’s what was implied in ASOTM.

Then again, the Lost Ones did, at least to Hook’s ship. 🙂

My position on this is known: I think they mean Neverland as a whole and not specifically the island, and that’s only so because Peter Pan controls the ways out.

[MysteryKat25]

I agree I think Hook deeply regretted it and will go after him at some point. I don’t think we’ve seen the last of the NL interaction of these two by a long shot.

One thing to keep in mind: Hook had the safety of his entire ship in question every second he protected Bae but would have fought to the bitter end to do so. Bae was insistent on leaving regardless and handing him over, as much as he didn’t want to, was the best move for everyone he was responsible for on his ship at the time because the Lost Ones would continue to come after them. If Bae just disappeared they’d probably still think that Hook was hiding him somewhere on board.

Even at the last second, if Bae had changed his mind there is no doubt in my mind that Hook would have fought for him. Bae chose to leave and while I hate that he ended up with the Lost Ones because of that choice, it was still in the best interest of the crew which is all Hook had to hold onto right then in his responsibility as Captain.

A friend pointed out to me that we clearly saw Hook carrying that picture around in his vest and suggested that maybe Smee put it on his desk – somewhere Bae would see, so that they could finally get rid of him and make everybody safe. I can kinda see that happening actually…might also explain why, if Hook found out, that Smee was not brought with him when he went to the EF to continue his quest for revenge. (Or perhaps, Smee just wanted to not age and stay put as did the rest of the crew, that’s possible too). I just kinda like the Sneaky!Smee angle because he was clearly opposed to Hook being close to the boy because it put them all in danger.

Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.

[kfchimera]

Perhaps Smee called the lost boys, and so Hook wasn’t expecting it, but rolled with it, since the damage was done and Bae didn’t want to stay. I’m hoping we get more of the story, since Smee and Hook are not together when the curse hits, and it didn’t seem like Smee knew (rather than knew but wouldn’t tell). They never show Hook as being concerned about looking for Smee (or other crew) when he was in SB–he was sailing away alone. So I wonder, did he know they were not there, or did he not care, perhaps because Smee led a mutiny ? I’m still hoping a certain rat jumped on his ship and won’t turn up until NL 😆

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

[Josephine]

I can’t access my earlier episodes this season I recorded but where exactly was Smee when the curse hit? We know that Hook was in FTL with Cora because she protected them with her little magical biosphere, but I can’t remember what land Smee was in.

We do know that Hook left Neverland at some point, obviously. He got back to the Enchanted Forest and knew the story about Belle living with Rumple. Somehow he had a mole somewhere because he also knew that Regina had her held captive (kind of makes you wonder since Jefferson also knew that Regina had Belle captive…was it not really a secret?) Anyway, what I’m getting out is that since Hook left, I do wonder if he somehow helped Bae escape is some way, also. That line about “things we do for our children” is really strange. Maybe it’s just semantics, but I think there is something else to it between them.

I know everyone is obsessed with shipping and Emma, but I’m actually at the moment much more interested in the Hook/Nealfire relationship. He seemed floored to find out that Nealfire was Henry’s father and that even Neal was gone. He didn’t know. It was only after he was on the ship and saw the remind of Bae did he turn back around to help Storybrooke.

So in a twisted sort of way, Bae might have two dads similar to how Henry has two moms. Goodness, this show is twisted. 😯 😆 I don’t know how anyone who hasn’t watched it from the pilot could ever follow the plot.

Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.

[kfchimera]

@Josephine wrote:

I don’t know how anyone who hasn’t watched it from the pilot could ever follow the plot.

Forget the plot–following the family tree is hard enough! It is a good point though,and an interesting parallel between Henry –> Moms and Bae—-> “Dads”, but I”m not sure if Hook ever got the chance to really solidfy a “dad” relationship with Bae, given how Nealfire acted in NY toward Hook. They were going to leave him in a storage closet, while they left for who knew how long to get Rumpel back.

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

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