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Hello peeps. Okay.
So I’m thinking….
Hook has been in neverland for a looong time. Now he is finally out and about, going after rumpel. He must be prepared in some way, right? Do you think he found something in neverland? He seems ready to do what he wants to do…so does that mean he found some sort of weapon? Cause in ‘The Crocodile’, he said he was going to go to neverland to find a way to kill Rumpel or whatever. He must have found something powerful…or will he go after the dagger? If he went after the dagger, he would have to become the dark one.
What are your thoughts?
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When Hook gets back to Storybrooke, he will probably be reunited with smee, who will most likely tell him about Belle. Now that Belle isn’t being directly ‘protected’ by Rumpel anymore, she will be easy to get.
Easy to get as in maybe he will tear out her heart like what Rumpel did to Milah. Or try..
Or maybe as I know some people have been suggesting he will try to ‘win’ her over. Or maybe he would just try and kill her, not rip out her heart, I don’t know.
Maybe he would tell her about Milah…turn her against Rumpel. That sounds like something interesting to see. 😮
I don’t think thats what he had planned to do in the first place, but it might be a nice bonus.
Perfectly ironic in regards to what Rumpel did to Milah.Thoughts?
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Mhm… I think he is going after the dagger. But if I were Hook, I would have a plan B, just in case it doesn’t work. What sort of magic and-or weapons are in Neverland? I can’t remember an specific Neverland thing that could help to kill Rumplestiltskin… What is sure is that he wants Rumplestiltskin dead, and that whatever his plan could be, it is related to kill him.
About Belle… Well, she is still protected by Rumplestiltskin -he acts like an obsessive and overprotective man regarding people he loves, so- but, she has also a werewoman as friend, so she is not an easy victim.
However, she is also a really tempting “prologue to revenge” for Hook… I believe he would try to seduct her.At the end that is what can hurt more: by killing her, just make Rumplestiltskin get angry and project his fury towards Hook, which can result in a clever last time victory for the wizard.
By telling Belle what her “true love” did, he doesn’t achieve anything: Belle is not so naive as to think Rumplestiltskin is a good guy, she knew his reputation even before know him. It could be a bit shocked, but at the end the information wouldn’t change anything between them.
BUT, by seducting her, Rumplestiltskin is double broken: he wouldn’t kill Belle, and probably he wouldn’t even try to kill Hook not to hurt her. -yes, I think Rumplestiltskin in love is weaker in this respect than he was before. I can’t imagine him killing Belle or hurting someone she loves, whoever s/he could be-
That gives Hook chance to fulfill his revenge, and in the time, he can enjoy watching how his enemy suffering the same humiliation being the Dark One that he suffered being the village coward.No matter Hook’s intentions, I expect Belle’s character stronger than that.
In regards to Hook and Belle, my heart is aching for her right now. I could totally see Hook wanting to harm Belle as his way of exacting revenge upon Rumpel for killing Milha. I’m really worried for Belle right now. 🙁
@TheTrickster wrote:
Well, she is still protected by Rumplestiltskin -he acts like an obsessive and overprotective man regarding people he loves, so- but, she has also a werewoman as friend, so she is not an easy victim.
First off, I do think she is an easy target, actually…more cause she is all alone in the Library. Before she was with Rumpel, which would make it near impossible to get to her. But now…she isn’t in a place he can help her always. I’m not saying he can’t protect her, he would do anything for her, but i’m saying he wouldn’t be with her as much anymore. She is vulnerable. In regards to Red…Red isn’t with Belle all the time either. She would help her, yes, but only if she knew she needed help.
@TheTrickster wrote:
Mhm… I think he is going after the dagger. But if I were Hook, I would have a plan B, just in case it doesn’t work. What sort of magic and-or weapons are in Neverland? I can’t remember an specific Neverland thing that could help to kill Rumplestiltskin… What is sure is that he wants Rumplestiltskin dead, and that whatever his plan could be, it is related to kill him.
That is a good point…but would he really want to become the dark one? I don’t remember, haha. But since it is a relatively different world with different magic, who knows what he could have found?
@TheTrickster wrote:
However, she is also a really tempting “prologue to revenge” for Hook… I believe he would try to seduct her.
At the end that is what can hurt more: by killing her, just make Rumplestiltskin get angry and project his fury towards Hook, which can result in a clever last time victory for the wizard.
By telling Belle what her “true love” did, he doesn’t achieve anything: Belle is not so naive as to think Rumplestiltskin is a good guy, she knew his reputation even before know him. It could be a bit shocked, but at the end the information wouldn’t change anything between them.
BUT, by seducting her, Rumplestiltskin is double broken: he wouldn’t kill Belle, and probably he wouldn’t even try to kill Hook not to hurt her. -yes, I think Rumplestiltskin in love is weaker in this respect than he was before. I can’t imagine him killing Belle or hurting someone she loves, whoever s/he could be-
That gives Hook chance to fulfill his revenge, and in the time, he can enjoy watching how his enemy suffering the same humiliation being the Dark One that he suffered being the village coward.Hmmm…interesting thoughts. I don’t think he would go that far? I don’t know…to me, it seems that Hook would be more likely to either kill her or idk. That is possible though.
By telling Belle that, I think it would scare her. I don’t think she would go, ‘Oh well. He had a wife and killed her. Ripped out her heart.’
Though she knows that he has done some not so great things, I think this is a little different. He had killed his wife- someone he possibly had loved. Whats to stop him from doing it to her? She wouldn’t know- unless she is sure of something different with them. I definitely think she would confront him about it.I could almost see Hook befriending her, gaining trust, then telling her this- as a warning to keep her safe. I could see him turning her against him in that way, maybe even making her feel sorry for him. Poor captain hook. 😛
But no…anything could end up happening, and those are some good points…But I think Belle is stronger than to give in to Hook in that way. She is pretty loyal. I’m still leaning toward him trying to kill her though…too perfect a chance to kill Rumpel’s true love in revenge for killing his own true love.
@TheTrickster wrote:
No matter Hook’s intentions, I expect Belle’s character stronger than that.
Lets hope so. 😛 🙂
@MagicKingdomღ wrote:
In regards to Hook and Belle, my heart is aching for her right now. I could totally see Hook wanting to harm Belle as his way of exacting revenge upon Rumpel for killing Milha. I’m really worried for Belle right now. 🙁
I know! Me too. 😮 🙂
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I can see Hook going after Belle because she is Rumple’s weakness in Storybrooke. I don’t think he will harm her because that would have Rumple coming at him at full force. Instead, I think he will get close to Belle and torture Rumple with the threat of what he could do to her.
Hook being Hook will probably try and seduce Belle and tell her tales about his adventures. This may set Rumple on edge as Hook as form for stealing Rumple’s women. I reckon Belle will be friendly towards Hook because that is the type of person she is, however, if Hook starts making passes at her I can see her putting him in his place.
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Keeper of Felix@PriceofMagic wrote:
I can see Hook going after Belle because she is Rumple’s weakness in Storybrooke. I don’t think he will harm her because that would have Rumple coming at him at full force.
Yeah… but if you think about it, Hook has a plan…to get revenge on Rumpel. Right now as far as we know, he doesn’t know about Belle. She would just be a bonus. And if she is a bonus, he might kill her/harm her because he already has a plan for Rumpel, one he is pretty confident in, his plan A. Now that he has the means to kill Rumpel supposedly, why not add in his true love Belle?
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Ok, I was thinking on “protected” as “having help and people who care for her” not a 24h companionship. My fault. She could be easy to find, and easy to “take” –so to speak- but with that sort of friends, I’m not so sure about being completely vulnerable. Unless a quick attack, like, “hey, Are you Belle? Yes? Nice to meet you, now, let me kill you”.
I don’t think that killing Rumplestiltskin in our world makes the killer the Dark One. Even having magic. In any case, maybe avoiding the curse could be a good starting point for a pirate to look for an alliance with Cora. Just guessing.
About Belle knowing that her beloved killed his first wife. Well, for sure I think she would confront him about that, but as I said, I think Belle is not a naïve-all-white character. Come on, she knows who she is in love with. At least, she should. One thing is say: “ok, stop acting like that if you want me to be with you”, but no one can change his past. So she would probably be scared, she would probably need some time to assimilate it, but that doesn’t mean she would take part for Hook.
But who knows?I just hope Belle being strong enough not to be confused by the situation and Hook being twisted enough not to act like a quick killer.
Why kill Belle to hurt Rumple if he was then going to kill Rumple anyway and effectively end Rumple’s suffering at Belle’s death? The crueller thing after killing Belle would be to keep Rumple alive but that would defeat Hook’s main objective of killing Rumple. Killing Belle after Rumple would have no purpose.
The moment Rumple sees Hook, he is going to know that Hook is a threat. Unless Hook plans on killing Rumple immediately, he has no advantage.
If Hook went after Belle and got into her good graces then Rumple faces a bit of a dilemma. If he kills Hook, then Belle may think he’s being jealous that another man is showing her some attention and that may drive her away. If Rumple does nothing, then Hook is going to be around Belle which will torture him with paranoia. Either way Rumple is in a lose/lose situation until Hook decides to try and and kill him.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of Felix@TheTrickster wrote:
Ok, I was thinking on “protected” as “having help and people who care for her” not a 24h companionship. My fault. She could be easy to find, and easy to “take” –so to speak- but with that sort of friends, I’m not so sure about being completely vulnerable. Unless a quick attack, like, “hey, Are you Belle? Yes? Nice to meet you, now, let me kill you”.
I don’t think that killing Rumplestiltskin in our world makes the killer the Dark One. Even having magic. In any case, maybe avoiding the curse could be a good starting point for a pirate to look for an alliance with Cora. Just guessing.
About Belle knowing that her beloved killed his first wife. Well, for sure I think she would confront him about that, but as I said, I think Belle is not a naïve-all-white character. Come on, she knows who she is in love with. At least, she should. One thing is say: “ok, stop acting like that if you want me to be with you”, but no one can change his past. So she would probably be scared, she would probably need some time to assimilate it, but that doesn’t mean she would take part for Hook.
But who knows?I just hope Belle being strong enough not to be confused by the situation and Hook being twisted enough not to act like a quick killer.
Yeah, I understand what you’re saying. Hahaha
Really? That is an interesting thought…the dagger not having effect.
Yeah, I could agree with that about belle finding out about milah. You’re right, she does know that he has a bad past.
Yeah, me too!
@PriceofMagic wrote:
Why kill Belle to hurt Rumple if he was then going to kill Rumple anyway and effectively end Rumple’s suffering at Belle’s death? The crueller thing after killing Belle would be to keep Rumple alive but that would defeat Hook’s main objective of killing Rumple. Killing Belle after Rumple would have no purpose.
First of all–
That is a good point. I think thought that he would probably suspend Rumpel, like Rumpel did to him when he killed Milah.
Something in the rounds that he wanted Rumpel to feel helpless as he killed belle, like he did when Rumpel killed Milah.
After he killed belle he would kill rumpel. I don’t know, it makes sense in my mind. But again, who knows? Could go either way. 😉@PriceofMagic wrote:
If Hook went after Belle and got into her good graces then Rumple faces a bit of a dilemma. If he kills Hook, then Belle may think he’s being jealous that another man is showing her some attention and that may drive her away. If Rumple does nothing, then Hook is going to be around Belle which will torture him with paranoia. Either way Rumple is in a lose/lose situation until Hook decides to try and and kill him.
This is a really good point as well! But I have a couple things. If he spent time with belle, then Rumpel would know sometime or later.
He would probably want to tell Belle about him, but then that would reveal his own past….and he probably wouldn’t want her to know that Hook had a just reason to go after him. So I guess that leaves Rumpel in an interesting situation. But who is to say that he won’t go after Hook as soon as he knows he is in storybrooke? And if Emma and Hook have become friends, and they came back together, then it would be that much harder to get at hook. I guess that is a bad situation.
Or, the moment hook got there he would go confront Rumpel. Maybe even find Rumpel with Belle eating hamburgers. 😉 haha.I don’t know if Hook would wait that long though–to become close to belle and seduce her. That would take a while, and I don’t think it would even work.
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@Ziera117 wrote:
I don’t know if Hook would wait that long though–to become close to belle and seduce her. That would take a while, and I don’t think it would even work.
Belle wouldn’t allow herself to be seduced. She loves Rumple and would remain loyal to him which would put a nice contrast between her and Milah.
Hook wouldn’t need to sucessfully seduce Belle but have Rumple think that is what he’s doing. Hook already seduced Rumple’s wife so it wouldn’t be beyond reason that he could seduce Rumple’s girlfriend.
Rumple has self-esteem issues so he could quite easily jump to the conclusion that Belle has been seduced by Hook. Again, Rumple would be in a lose/lose situation. If he confronts Belle, she’s going to take offense that he doesn’t trust her to be faithful, and if he says nothing then he’s going to suffer in silence thinking he’s going to lose Belle to Hook like he did Milah.
Like you said, as far as we know Hook doesn’t know about Belle yet. He might be intending to kill Rumple right now but once he sees Belle, he might decide that it would be a better revenge to separate Rumple from his one true love.
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Keeper of Felix
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