Hook first impressions

[bigred]

@Phee wrote:

My very first impression of him was to want to kick Milah out of her chair in the bar and sit there myself with that fine view across the table. Pour me another, plz, Mr Jones! 😉

Aye, Aye, Captain! Who would have ever thought Captain Hook could be so hot? 😀

In movies and literature, pirates are often “romanticized”; they have this swashbuckling appeal, this bad-boy charm, all dating back to the days of Erroll Flynn. I believe K & H are going in the same direction here. He’s going to be the bad-boy figure to oppose Charming’s clean, altruistic hero. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was some chemistry between Hook and Emma…imagine her parents’ reactions! Snow: “How could you fall for that…that PIRATE! You have to marry a Prince!” 😆

Maybe I’m getting ahead of myself but chances are they will meet. He was so close to the “safe haven” at the end of the episode…I’m predicting sparks will fly, and not only from the sparkly dirt!

Moreover, I believe the real trend this reason is to show that most of the “villains” we’ve come to know are not completely bad, rotten to the core, but for one glaring exception: Cora – indeed, rotten to the “core”. It would be awesome to see all of them team up to fight her, the one true villain. Hook may be allied to Cora now, but I don’t think that will last long… he’s blindsided by his hate for Rumple and perhaps, “twwuu wuv” might give him a change of heart and a good dose of forgiveness? We’ll see…

[lilred]

Kind of thought he’d be in the Whale spectrum of ‘creeper’ but he really wasn’t. Overall, interested in seeing his character develop and see how dark he’s become after losing Milha and everything that went down in Neverland. Worried that his motivation is a bit faulty since they didn’t really develop the Milha/Hook love story – except saying that it totally happened and they loved each other.

I’ll buy that they were in love and everything – but wonder if it was ‘true love’. Probably should assume it was since Hook reacted to her death by living forever for the purpose of killing ‘the crocodile’…but still wonder if he’ll end up being another redeemable villain in a few seasons…

[dorothy]

I can’t really say that I’m head over heels for Hook’s character.

I get that Millah wanted a different life from what she had, and she was sick of living with a guy who was too much of a coward to fight for anything, but was Hook really that much better? When Hook first met Rumple in the tavern, he made fun of how short he was. When they met again in the street and Hook thought Rumple was a beggar, he slapped the cup of coins out of his hand and made fun of how he looked like a crocodile. All I really got from Hook is that he’s a bully. Millah traded a coward for a bully. But after that last scene showing that Hook still has a grudge over Millah’s death, it goes to show that he really did love her.

@BigRed wrote:

In movies and literature, pirates are often “romanticized”; they have this swashbuckling appeal, this bad-boy charm, all dating back to the days of Erroll Flynn. I believe K & H are going in the same direction here. He’s going to be the bad-boy figure to oppose Charming’s clean, altruistic hero. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was some chemistry between Hook and Emma…imagine her parents’ reactions! Snow: “How could you fall for that…that PIRATE! You have to marry a Prince!” 😆

While it would be fun to watch Hook trying to charm Emma, I’d be suspicious. And I say “try” because I don’t think Emma would fall for any kind of flattery he’d throw her way. 😆

[thetrickster]

You are going to hate me because of this, but… i don’t really like Hook.

I mean, yes, I like the character, the way it fit in the story and all the plot possibilities it opens.

But i can’t sympathize with him. You know, all that about humiliate a crippled and so on. It seems like he has a lack of self confidence and needs going around behaving like a bully.
And for his chivalry…really? when he offered human-Rumplestiltskin a sword for a duel, he offered a rusty and untempered sword. He tried to fight with a lame old man who never fought before… it is not fair play, not for a person with a sense of chivalry. (Ok, all right, he is a pirate. Then it would be fine… but for the fact of the so called “chivalry”. The only “what.if…” that could save him would be that Milah asked him to challenge her husband to demonstrate he was not a coward anymore. and still it would be to twisted)

And, later in the chapter, when the Dark One crosses his path, the first thing he does is…lie him. Well done, Hook.
He is in love with Milah, that is true.But it doesn’t make him more balanced. I see him like a man who has lost his north, with no goals to achieve. Just going from here to there, now i’m playing in a tavern, now i’m in love… but… something was missing in his personality.

BUT, appart from all this, after Milah’s death, he apparently finds something to fight for, like a “true goal”. So there is still hope for him, it seems much more interesting and balanced in the last escene 😉 😉

[nonnie]

https://oncepodcast.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=1586&start=20

AS I said in another thread …. HOOK IS NOTHING BUT A SCHOOL YARD BULLY ….picking on weaker people than himself….. Not as bad as RUMPLE’s killing Mihla but then we do not see him doing anything. But Pirates are not noted for their gentle natures.

[Josephine]

I don’t know what to think about Hook. I’m not in love with him like a lot of fangirls already are. Rumple and Charming have no need to worry about their spots being usurped, but I don’t hate him, either. I do think the revenge thing is going to be mostly Milah and a part his hand. But right now, I’m pretty ambivalent about him. 🙄

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@Lil’Red wrote:

Kind of thought he’d be in the Whale spectrum of ‘creeper’ but he really wasn’t. Overall, interested in seeing his character develop and see how dark he’s become after losing Milha and everything that went down in Neverland. Worried that his motivation is a bit faulty since they didn’t really develop the Milha/Hook love story – except saying that it totally happened and they loved each other.

Yes, I was expecting some kind of creeper too, but was glad that he wasn’t. I agree though that I never got the feeling of true love from Milah/Hook; although, I guess they are. It’s really too bad because I love your idea of him loving Milah but Ariel being his real true love.

While it’s great motive for revenge, I think giving him a true love and killing her off already, is too much like Regina’s back story, and limits another character to work with romance wise. Not that they can’t pair off Regina and Hook with each other or with other people, but at least for me, I can’t really get invested if Daniel and Milah were their real true loves because at least in the back of my mind I’d always be wondering if they’re comparing their new loves all the time to their old loves and the new loves are great but not quite as great as Daniel and Milah.

Plus, like I wrote in another post, I could buy that Hook was the great love of Milah’s life since he helped rescue her from her situation, but I’m not sure if she was the love of his life except that the show wants me to believe that she was. She was beautiful, and while she was a strong woman, I guess I just didn’t see anything when we first see them together at the tavern that would necessarily make her the love of Hook’s life. It could be he didn’t fall in love with her right away, but I wish we would have gotten to see something at the start to indicate that while she wasn’t the love of his life then, she wasn’t necessarily just another fling to him either which is the impression I got when first seeing them together.

I don’t know what to think about Hook. I’m not in love with him like a lot of fangirls already are. Rumple and Charming have no need to worry about their spots being usurped, but I don’t hate him, either. I do think the revenge thing is going to be mostly Milah and a part his hand. But right now, I’m pretty ambivalent about him.

Yes, I think he’s great eye candy, but I’m not quite in love with him either yet. I want to know more about why Milah was the love of his life if she’s the motive for his going to Neverland in order to get back at Rumple someday. I also want to know more about his time in Neverland before deciding about him one way or another.

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@NONNIE wrote:

https://oncepodcast.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=1586&start=20

AS I said in another thread …. HOOK IS NOTHING BUT A SCHOOL YARD BULLY ….picking on weaker people than himself….. Not as bad as RUMPLE’s killing Mihla but then we do not see him doing anything. But Pirates are not noted for their gentle natures.

Of course he’s a bully! He’s a PIRATE! And he’s not the first I’ve seen in OUAT. I remember one in particular (a “Dark” one) who turned a guy into a slug and STEPPED on him! But no one is completely good or bad, and the writers are always putting a new spin on these classic characters. The one true villain is probably Cora.

Now, strictly thinking about the “casting”. They picked a really good-looking guy to play him, and there’s a reason they’re straying from the typical portrayal of Hook as an older, unattractive man. We’ve got a really seductive Hook on our hands. That spells TROUBLE for the ladies of OUAT. Sighs will be uttered. Hearts will be broken (not torn out! just broken!) And girls fall for the bad boys. I’m just getting the sneakin’ suspicion this bad boy won’t stay bad for long….it’s about to get interesting romantic-wise…just saying…they’re not going to cast such fine piece of eye-candy and not give him a romantic interest. And if Hook falls in love (truly in love…I think he cared about Milah, but she was not his true love) what could be more powerful than true love to make him good? (We’ve already gotten a glimpse of that with Rumple and Belle…)

Can’t wait to see the next episode!

[Ziera]

@steliokontos1 wrote:

You know for Hook supposing to be this horrible villain at this point he’s really more of an anti-hero really what did he do that was so evil? Ok he stole Rumple’s wife from him sure that breaks guy code but other than that? He was in love with Mila they seemed to be happy together he tried to protect her from Rumple and couldn’t. At the end we see him hanging around Cora but that’s it. He spared Smee right away, let Rumple walk off the ship with no problem don’t know I was expecting more villainy with our new villain. Really in the end it made Rumple look more evil than Hook even though it was suppose to be the other way around but we’ll see how things go after the introduction.

Yeah… I totally agree. I’m thinking we will see more in his story…maybe more about him being evil….more backstory.

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