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May 2, 2016 at 10:49 am #322497RumplesGirlKeymaster
It shouldn’t but…..I can see the writers going there.
That would be so annoying though, especially since by the end of this episode they made it very clear that Hades simply made it nearly impossible for people to leave. He liked the power he had on everyone. But it would seem that he has no power regarding people actually moving on. They either go down or up. He was simply a hindrance and now that he’s no longer in the UW, it will make things easier for everyone. But him dying, should not affect them based on what they have told us so far. It would really retcon what they established in this episode I think.
As it stands right now, the only other option I see is that Robin’s death allows Hook to come back for….reasons?
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 2, 2016 at 11:01 am #322500SlurpeezParticipantWell, there’s always Nyx and Well of Wonders (or whatever it was called in OUAT in WL). When it comes to the show’s favorite pirate, there’s always a loophole. Never mind that dead used to mean dead.
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May 2, 2016 at 11:43 am #322521PheeParticipantSo I think Hook can choose to stay in the underworld or move on,
Granted, I only half watched the CS scenes, but didn’t he basically say, “You shoulda let me go 20 times already,” and didn’t she say something like, “Don’t wait for me to come back for you, move on”? Because really, after a conversation like that, he shoulda gone directly to Mt Doom to move on. If he didn’t do that, and if he somehow comes back, then that exchange between them loses all its weight.
May 2, 2016 at 11:51 am #322524RumplesGirlKeymasterSo I think Hook can choose to stay in the underworld or move on,
Granted, I only half watched the CS scenes, but didn’t he basically say, “You shoulda let me go 20 times already,” and didn’t she say something like, “Don’t wait for me to come back for you, move on”? Because really, after a conversation like that, he shoulda gone directly to Mt Doom to move on. If he didn’t do that, and if he somehow comes back, then that exchange between them loses all its weight.
This is something Daniel and I discussed last week: do souls know when it’s time to move on? Do they head to Mt Doom the second their unfinished business is finished? Hook tells Emma to let him go, shouldn’t he head straight for Mt Doom?
Actually. Is that how he is going to come back? Mt Doom decides (or whoever/whatever sits in judgement) that Hook’s sacrifice was “good enough” to grant him new life. So it’s not the worse place and it’s not the better place, it’s just actual resurrection.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 2, 2016 at 4:33 pm #322605MatthewPaulModeratorHere’s what I think will happen.
Zeus will find out that his brother is up to no good, and will team up with Hook to help our heroes. The press release kinda hints at that possibility. Zeus also finds out that Emma and Hook passed the true love test for the ambrosia, but that Hades tricked them. Therefore, Zeus gives Hook some ambrosia after Hades is dealt with. A literal deus ex machina.May 2, 2016 at 7:36 pm #322619GaultheriaParticipantIt could be that what they thought was the whole test was just the beginning. The test even showed them that, with the fire. What if they both had to be willing to permanently let go?
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May 3, 2016 at 6:42 am #322658onceaholicParticipantHook chose to stay in the Underworld when the Orpheus and Eurydice-plan went bust. Do you think he’ll actually stay dead/down in the Underworld? If not, how else can the heroes get him back?
This one is a no-brainer. He will not stay there for good. There will be some magical loophole that will allow Hook’s soul to re-enter his rotting corpse (sorry for the description, just trying to remember what Hades said) and for his body to be revitalized and reanimated with his soul in it.
It might be something to do with a reward from Zeus for his tremendous sacrifice etc etc.
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May 3, 2016 at 6:44 am #322659onceaholicParticipantHook chose to stay in the Underworld when the Orpheus and Eurydice-plan went bust. Do you think he’ll actually stay dead/down in the Underworld? If not, how else can the heroes get him back?
This one is a no-brainer. He will not stay there for good. There will be some magical loophole that will allow Hook’s soul to re-enter his rotting corpse (sorry for the description, just trying to remember what Hades said) and for his body to be revitalized and reanimated with his soul in it.
It might be something to do with a reward from Zeus for his tremendous sacrifice etc etc.
Here’s what I think will happen. Zeus will find out that his brother is up to no good, and will team up with Hook to help our heroes. The press release kinda hints at that possibility. Zeus also finds out that Emma and Hook passed the true love test for the ambrosia, but that Hades tricked them. Therefore, Zeus gives Hook some ambrosia after Hades is dealt with. A literal deus ex machina.
Or this. Probably this.
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May 3, 2016 at 10:12 pm #322727sierraleoneParticipantI suspect he will be back…
However, I suspect, to *try* to raise the stakes for life/death situations in the future, they will at least make it not repeatable. For example, if Zeus gives Hook some ambrosia or something, there will be some dialogue about that being the last fruit of the current crop, and it only blooms/fruits once every 100 years, or some other random fact/difficulty in repeating this come-back-from-death-feat in the future. At least I sincerely hope so.
May 3, 2016 at 10:18 pm #322729RumplesGirlKeymasterHowever, I suspect, to *try* to raise the stakes for life/death situations in the future, they will at least make it not repeatable. For example, if Zeus gives Hook some ambrosia or something, there will be some dialogue about that being the last fruit of the current crop, and it only blooms/fruits once every 100 years, or some other random fact/difficulty in repeating this come-back-from-death-feat in the future. At least I sincerely hope so.
Probably. they have to come up with some way to rationalize why Robin can’t come back to life if he is in fact dead for good next week
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