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If there is going to be conflict with Hook and Rumpelstiltskin soon, I was thinking that Hook staying in Storybrooke after that might be difficult (if he breaks with Cora). He can’t just walk around, ready to pounce on Rumpel. The town is not THAT big! The town could lock him up in the jail but that would not seem to be the most creative way to use his character. I’m wondering if he crossed the town line whether or not he would be affected by the new curse. If he completely forgets his purpose and his memories, he could then live in Storybrooke for awhile. I’m not sure how the new curse works with those who were not a part of the original curse.
Just a thought.
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HOOK & GOLD meet up. Gold beats him up… Hook ends up in the hospital where he gets treated by Dr Whale…. so says the spoilers I have been reading.
NONNIE
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.I know one thing. Based on what I’m reading on twitter from other fans, if Hook doesn’t stay on for good, K&H might be running from pitchforks, axes, clubs, and torches!
@Oncewatcher wrote:
I know one thing. Based on what I’m reading on twitter from other fans, if Hook doesn’t stay on for good, K&H might be running from pitchforks, axes, clubs, and torches!
Yeah I hope it doesn’t come to that! I was thinking that having him lose his fairy tale memories or somehow getting cursed differently than the others by accidentally going outside town lines would be an interesting twist.
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@Oncewatcher wrote:
I know one thing. Based on what I’m reading on twitter from other fans, if Hook doesn’t stay on for good, K&H might be running from pitchforks, axes, clubs, and torches!
Like I said many times – it’s a shame that the writers would have to compromise a good story telling for keeping a character they might no longer need.
@EvilQueen wrote:
@Oncewatcher wrote:
I know one thing. Based on what I’m reading on twitter from other fans, if Hook doesn’t stay on for good, K&H might be running from pitchforks, axes, clubs, and torches!
Like I said many times – it’s a shame that the writers would have to compromise a good story telling for keeping a character they might no longer need.
Oh, they need him alright. He brought their ratings back up this season. Clearly, he’s well liked. I like the philosophy: “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”. If they listen to their fans, he’ll stay. Then, they may have a better chance of winning at least, one people’s choice award for season 3. Otherwise, if mediocrity is what they’re aiming for, they’ll hit it every time.
@Oncewatcher wrote:
@EvilQueen wrote:
@Oncewatcher wrote:
I know one thing. Based on what I’m reading on twitter from other fans, if Hook doesn’t stay on for good, K&H might be running from pitchforks, axes, clubs, and torches!
Like I said many times – it’s a shame that the writers would have to compromise a good story telling for keeping a character they might no longer need.
Oh, they need him alright. He brought their ratings back up this season. Clearly, he’s well liked. I like the philosophy: “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”. If they listen to their fans, he’ll stay. Then, they may have a better chance of winning at least, one people’s choice award for season 3. Otherwise, if mediocrity is what they’re aiming for, they’ll hit it every time.
Wow…so you’re basically flatten the capability of the whole Once cast and viability/quality of the show on one single character then? Tsk. Really… 🙄 I know that Hook has a large following and likewise doubt he’ll vanish in dust anytime soon, but honestly it’s really bothering to always read that in a very hormic and denunciatory way many fans are trying to push the decisions of the writers in a direction they’d favor the plot to go.
Yes, evaluating the ratings will probably influence the path they have in prospect.
Yes, it could be that in this season Hook was one instance to let it increase. But what about Cora? She, as a new villain, is highly in vogue as well, let’s not forget that. And also what about Mulan? What about Aurora? Or even Neal? Several of those quite well-known actors are entailing whole new branches of viewership.
There have been a couple of new introductions this season and many new additions to follow, which in turn could and will have an incisive impact on the audience. Sorry, but I just can’t comprehend that people are ignoring the general accession just because they’re excessively fixed on one character.And yes, I know that the showrunners these days are all aiming for the great awards and prizes, but is it only all about that oppressiveness…? I agree with EvilQueen that good storytelling is in any case more important than keeping a character on the show under the compulsion of some fanatic fans, tossing him from one derisory plot to the next, just because they have no idea how to integrate him/her into the story they have planned anymore…That’s completely ridiculous.
That said by a fan, who already had to bear with a couple of favorite character deaths and also “dumping” character’s potential by letting them haunt in a story without pressing it ahead. It’s about the overall story and not the individuals. Last are just the pawns in this game. Period.
Apology for my interference…
The truth hurts, doesn’t it. The show has a choice. They can be introverted, do what they want for themselves, stay in the box, and keep the revolving door, or they can align their decisions to the pleasure of the people who watch their show / keep them employed. The narcicistsic idea of “art”, and “it’s all about me” looks good, but it’s like a car sitting on a lot without any gas in it. It looks pretty, but if it has no fuel, it’s not going to go anywhere.
The. show. is. not. about. the. writers. It’s not even about the story. It’s about the audience. That’s a key point that has to be drilled into the mindset of ABC, before Once can be truly successful. When that happens, things will improve. Otherwise, status quo.
Once won’t see season 4. It will have been sacrifiiced on an altar of inflated egos.
Interesting: Recently, Fox News (link below) was talking about an American Freshman Survey, which has accumulated data for the past 47 years from 9 million young adults, reveals that college students are more likely than ever to call themselves gifted and driven to succeed, even though their test scores and time spent studying are decreasing.
Fascinating to see how the decline of humility can so tangibly represented.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/01/08/are-raising-generation-deluded-narcissists/#ixzz2HfqJnOQN
@Oncewatcher wrote:
The truth hurts, doesn’t it. The show has a choice. They can be introverted, and do what they want for themselves, or they can align their decisions to the pleasure of the people who watch their show / keep them employed. The narcicistsic idea of “art”, and “it’s all about me” looks good, but it’s like a car sitting on a lot without any gas in it. It looks pretty, but if it has no fuel, it’s not going to go anywhere.
The. show. is. not. about. the. writers. It’s not even about the story. It’s about the audience. That’s a key point that has to be drilled into the mindset of ABC, before Once can be truly successful. When that happens, things will improve. Otherwise, status quo.
Once won’t see season 4. It will have been sacrifiiced on an altar of inflated egos.
Now you just shredded one rather ancillary statement of mine, but alright lol…Don’t think I have no clue on how television and marketing works. It was rather a rhetorical question and yes, it hurts that in fact everything is about prestige and money, but whether we moan about that or not doesn’t matter, because it would revise nothing. So, whatever.
But I disagree on the “what is more important” part. It is about the story too, because that’s what first and foremost decoys the audience and adheres the ratings. You have to display something new and captivating, not a usual 0815 plot to develop a good following on the first place.There’s a reciprocal effect between the audience and the plot and the cast…
There are courses that other shows took – not in approval of a massive percentage of the viewership – and they did it anyway. If it ostensibly was about the audience and not the story, why would they kill off Graham on the first hand? He had a HUGE following back then.All those qualities go hand in hand! They are equally important, but don’t displace one another…
Probably that’s only how I determine it’s working and you are obviously having a rather different notion so I’ll stop that here on my part.That discussion is slipping too much into generality anyway.
Well, you got my point. The viewers are already frustrated and angry over the losses of Graham and August. The audience wants to be entertained, not exasperated. The core of my point is that I believe that if they don’t keep Captain Hook on Once Upon A Time, it will be a big mistake. I’m not sure it’s one they would recover from.
Not learning from your mistakes is the best way in the world to defeat your purposes, and sabotage your efforts. It all comes back to a question of objectives, goals, desired results, and most especially, what you’re willing to invest into your purposes in order to achieve those results.
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