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January 11, 2013 at 7:54 pm #167986PriceofMagicParticipant
Hook is in Storybrooke for one reason and one reason only, to get revenge against Rumple.
Once that Story arc’s been and gone, what then for Hook? Keep him around as potential love interest for Emma even though we know she’s not going to let him near Henry? THey could do that within season 2 whilst Hook still has purpose in Storybrooke.
When Hook leaves Storybrooke (whether that’s by being killed off, being banished to another realm or just travelling and exploring our world), he doesn’t necessarily have to leave the show per se, he can still appear in flashbacks like Graham. With them bringing in new characters each season, it’s also likely that Hook has crossed paths with plenty of characters and will appear in their stories so he’s not going to suddenly cease to exist.
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Keeper of FelixJanuary 11, 2013 at 8:22 pm #167994oncewatcherParticipantWell here’s an original thought: Emma’s supposed to be a savior, so where’s the grace? Why don’t they redeem Hook? Long process. Great story. Great drama. Happy audience.Writers with half an imagination. If they are so boxed in that they can’t accomplish that, why am I watching this show, much less appreciating it? Not, if they have rocks in their heads.
Oh, here’s a great idea for a tv series: “Once Upon A Time” The show where we recycle story lines, treat your emotions like a puppet master, put our viewers “in their place”, reject any, and all ideas other than our own, and then pat eachother on the back for a job we can continue to re-define an evolving justification for being well done to save face, while we kill off your childhood heroes. Be careful before you tuck in junior tonight, moms and dads. If little suzie wants to hear you read Cinderella to her again, be ready to explain why Gus-Gus is dead. Little Johnny wants to hear Peter Pan before you tuck him in? You can tell him we killed Captain Hook.
They can keep that for themselves. I want no part of it. There’s nothing in it for me. It’s not entertaining. It’s sick.
January 11, 2013 at 8:45 pm #167996evilqueenParticipantSo… on top of redeeming Regina and Rumplestiltskin we also add redeeming Hook BUT try not to recycle story lines at the same time? How is that going to work?
Here’s a thought: I couldn’t care less for Hook, whether he dies or not. So to me your idea of redeeming Hook in a long process doesn’t exactly appeal as a great story and great drama. To me it would be a bore. My point is – everyone perceives those characters and story lines differently. For you Hook is your ultimate guy, good for you, but bare in mind that to many others he is not, and they wouldn’t mind much to what’s happening with him. Yes, I do admit he has a huge fan club out there but this club is NOT the majority and there are huge fan clubs of other characters too. Perhaps you should appeal for a separate show for this Captain rather than offending the show for not following your rules.
January 11, 2013 at 8:46 pm #167997oncewatcherParticipantOnly if done in a present-day context. Otherwise, it’d be a very big disappointment. Just like Once Upon A Time is. How do you do that? How about exile from beyond the borders of Storybrooke?
You guys won’t have to worry about me becuse if Hook dies, you won’t be hearing from me anymore. There really won’t be anything to keep me interested in the show at all.
January 11, 2013 at 9:39 pm #168002PriceofMagicParticipantOncewatcher- How would you describe Hook’s personality? As many words as you can.
One of the words I would use to describe Hook is determined. He is determined to get his revenge on Rumplestiltskin. He won’t stop until Rumple is dead.
However, I don’t think they will kill off Rumple. He is an important part of the show.
So what is Hook going to do? Killing Rumple is not an option, Storybrooke is not big enough for the both of them. Is Hook to suddenly decide that he’s quite happy to let Rumple live despite spending centuries hunting for a way to kill him. That doesn’t sound like the Hook we’ve been watching, it doesn’t sound like a natural progression of Hook’s character.
Sometimes characters dictate the story. If something occurs that seems out of character then the audience is going to notice and they will call the character out on it.
If Hook were to leave the show, how would you have him leave? Blaze of glory or suffer badass decay?
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Keeper of FelixJanuary 11, 2013 at 9:44 pm #168004tiara_roseParticipantHe will loose his memory because of this hit from the car and later when he get it back he hound Rumple again. 😉
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January 11, 2013 at 9:49 pm #168007oncewatcherParticipantPersonality:
Dysfunctional. I’d imagine his childhood was probably traumatic. I’d imagine he has been let down over, and over, and over again and takes it out on the one man who he has left in his life to blame for his hurt: The man who killed the woman he loves. He’s attaching his pain to Rumple. What Rumple did was horrible, but there are a lot of faces on Rumple’s face from Hook’s life. He’s not had anyone in his life, who really helped him sort through the things that hurt him, or to help him find which shelves to put them on. He needs love, himself. He told Emma she had too little love in her life. Truth is, I’d bet, so did he. The hurt he suffered made him angry. That’s what led in one capacity or another, to piracy and then after, to revenge.
I’ll bet Hook made a big mistake with Milah. She was loved by him yes, but she was a substitute. She represented someone in his life who he lost and through her, in his mind, was “given back”. Rumple represented someone else in his life, who hurt him (maybe his father), who took that away from him (again).
Hook knows all about distrust. He said that Emma needed to learn trust. He probably did intend to deceive Emma. Truth is, I bet someone else said that to him long before he met her, maybe Milah. He doesn’t trust anybody. The one person who restored to him the possibility that it was safe to do that, was taken from him.
As for leaving: Who in the world says he has to? Who says he and Emma can’t just be good friends at some point? Who says he, and Rumple can’t at some point, bury their axes in a matter of understanding eachother? Who says they can’t get along? For long as Hook’s emotional and psychological damage goes unattended, he would be a threat. What if though, Archie had a big hand in basically, please forgive this because it’s not meant to be humor, The Hook-whisperer?
Also: About too many characters being redeemed: This is a process. It doesn’t happen overnight. They (Hook, Regina, and Rumple) will back-slide from time-to-time (more story).
The only way I can see how anybody would throw this away is if they just refuse to open their eyes up, look beyond the end of their own nose, and “see the light” of possibilities? If he has to leave, I’d say he finds himself outside the borders of Storybrooke whether in a new series, or not; but in present day, maybe without his memory, maybe with his hand. That’d be in the details What would still be present no matter where he’d be though, is his personality, and his heart.
Hook is a man of passion. He wants to be loved. Until he can put his complications away though, he has to learn the aspect of grace and forgiveness before being capable of receiving love. That’s where the story is, ladies and glentlemen. It’s in that journey. A journey that you are suggesting should never take place. Something that would just leave us asking what could have been, in disappointment and regret. It doesn’t have to be like that. Not if the right people are brought together, in the right forum, for the right purpose.
January 11, 2013 at 9:58 pm #168009PriceofMagicParticipant@tiara_rose wrote:
He will loose his memory because of this hit from the car and later when he get it back he hound Rumple again. 😉
How long until Rumple gets fed up of Hook hounding him again? If Hook were to lose his memory, he’d probably get it back by this season’s finale which would set Hook up to continue his revenge next season. However, would Rumple just sit idly by whilst Hook does his worst? No, Rumple would probably kill Hook and try and hide it from Belle because it would be more beneficial for Rumple and safer for Belle if Hook was out of the picture.
So Hook staying in Storybrooke not only hinges on what Hook does but what Rumple does as well.
Also, realistically, how long can they drag Hook’s revenge plot on for before the audience gets fed up of it?
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Keeper of FelixJanuary 11, 2013 at 10:02 pm #168010oncewatcherParticipantRead my post. It directly addresses that. Sorry for it’s length, but it’s worth it.
January 11, 2013 at 10:35 pm #168014PriceofMagicParticipant@Oncewatcher wrote:
Read my post. It directly addresses that. Sorry for it’s length, but it’s worth it.
I’m in the process of reading it. 🙂
I get that Hook is your favourite character and you want him to stick around. He’s not mine, I don’t really care what happens to him. I like him but I don’t love him.
I don’t want them to redeem every single villain that pops up on this show. They’re in the process of redeeming Rumple and Regina. For me, that’s enough. If they redeem Hook, why not redeem Cora as well?
I don’t want them to say all of Hook’s behaviour is because he wasn’t loved. I don’t want the reason he became a pirate and decided to take revenge against Rumple is because his daddy didn’t hug him enough as a kid. Hook is a bully and that is before Rumple killed Milah.
Hook is one of those characters where the badder he is the more you love him. They can’t keep him at full on villainy if they want him to survive on the show but at the same time it wouldn’t be right to turn him into one of the good guys.
Because we’re not going to agree whether Hook should stay or go, I’m going to change the subject slightly.
One of Hook’s main reasons for revenge against Rumple is Milah’s death. Do think Hook and Milah had True Love or was it just love?
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