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January 17, 2013 at 4:37 am #168782PheeParticipant
@PriceofMagic wrote:
Hook is not on anyone’s side but his own. He teams up with whichever side benefits him most. He would’ve preferred to team up with Emma because she was heading to Storybrooke and he considered her safer company than Cora. Had Emma not left him at the top of the beanstalk, Hook probably wouldn’t have gone back to Cora.
Agreed. I’m wondering if perhaps he was really relieved to have had another option pop up in Emma and Co, because it meant that once he got to SB, he wouldn’t have Cora around with her own agenda there cramping his style.
It wouldn’t surprise me if he joins TeamCharmings in the near future. As long as they can learn to trust him, he’d be a valuable tool in their fight against Cora.
[adrotate group="5"]January 17, 2013 at 5:39 pm #168827obisgirlParticipantI agree too.
January 17, 2013 at 8:22 pm #168854maiqu20Participant@jessista wrote:
magic bean– The only things I can think of are his “friendship” with Emma and his helping her with the beanstalk thing, and perhaps his love for Milah (which we haven’t seen much of). Do you think his relationship with Emma will be his redemption? I could see that in a way, but I feel like the character would need more back story before that would happen realistically. I mean, we didn’t feel for Rumple really until we knew about his son Bae and his love for Belle, so maybe there will be some sort of episode giving him something along those lines. I seem to agree that Hook is for Hook and no one else, and wants nothing more than to destroy Rumple.
I think that’s the way they are setting things up, all the parallels are there for a reason and both Eddy and Adam have stated he was telling the truth when he told Emma he wouldn’t have betrayed her.. They are kindred souls after all.. If you look at it from his side of things
He is not a bad guy, deep down.. He’s just a broken man who has made bad decisions and has been moved by this need to avenge the woman he loved.. We saw on Sunday’s episode how much he loved Milah..From what we’ve seen he’s the most easily redeemed of the shows “villains”, the only person we’ve seen him kill is claude, he never raped anyone, yes he took aurora’s heart (and that was not good) but he gave it back, he didn’t care about archie being gone from his ship
Hook is the mask that Killian is hiding behind.. The man who just wants revenge
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@PriceofMagic wrote:
Hook is not on anyone’s side but his own. He teams up with whichever side benefits him most. He would’ve preferred to team up with Emma because she was heading to Storybrooke and he considered her safer company than Cora. Had Emma not left him at the top of the beanstalk, Hook probably wouldn’t have gone back to Cora.
Agreed. I’m wondering if perhaps he was really relieved to have had another option pop up in Emma and Co, because it meant that once he got to SB, he wouldn’t have Cora around with her own agenda there cramping his style.
It wouldn’t surprise me if he joins TeamCharmings in the near future. As long as they can learn to trust him, he’d be a valuable tool in their fight against Cora.
Yes!! I think that’s what they are leading up to, He’s most likely going to team up with team charming… especially since Rumple is going to be with Cora
January 17, 2013 at 9:36 pm #168873beastwhispererParticipantI can’t help but notice that when Hook met Regina in the past the show went out of its way to have Hook ask why Regina wanted her mother dead and for Regina to pointedly not answer. If Hook switches sides, I don’t expect it to be because of Emma or team Charming. I think it would be because he learns of Cora having done to Regina the same thing that Rumple did to Hook. There’s no way he could not remember his own tragedy once that revelation occurs. I think the reason he rescued Aurora’s heart from the portal was because of his love for Milah. He didn’t want Aurora’s heart accdentally crushed, because he’d be reminded of Milah’s death by that. It’s the strongest reason for Hook to turn against Cora, imo.
January 17, 2013 at 9:51 pm #168881evilqueenParticipantAll very well, but I don’t think that revelation would hit him in any way. He knows Cora and her ways. He realises this fully well, that she’s done this thing to thousands of people, if not millions, ruining hearts and lives. Heck, she’s even threatened Hook himself to rip his heart out. The fact that she did it to Regina too wouldn’t be a surprise. In fact, I don’t think he would even bother, it’s not his vengeance after all, it’s between Cora and Regina, there is nothing in it for him.
January 17, 2013 at 10:31 pm #168886beastwhispererParticipantIf the revelation were of no importance there would be no reason for the show to establish Hook’s ignorance of the history between Cora and Regina. Instead they insert an exchange that has all the subtlty of an anvil. Knowing that Cora rips out hearts isn’t the same as knowing that she did exactly the same thing that Rumps did to him to her own daughter of all people. Realizing that he’s helping the woman who did to Regina what Rumple did to him shows Hook just how blind and twisted his quest for vengeance has become. If that doesn’t put a new perspective on his actions for him than I don’t think anything will. That is still a possibility, but I strongly suspect he will turn against Cora.
January 17, 2013 at 10:41 pm #168887maiqu20Participant@BeastWhisperer wrote:
If the revelation were of no importance there would be no reason for the show to establish Hook’s ignorance of the history between Cora and Regina. Instead they insert an exchange that has all the subtlty of an anvil. Knowing that Cora rips out hearts isn’t the same as knowing that she did exactly the same thing that Rumps did to him to her own daughter of all people. Realizing that he’s helping the woman who did to Regina what Rumple did to him shows Hook just how blind and twisted his quest for vengeance has become. If that doesn’t put a new perspective on his actions for him than I don’t think anything will. That is still a possibility, but I strongly suspect he will turn against Cora.
Hook is not a fan of Regina either…and don’t forget Regina did to Graham the same thing Rumple did to Milah (even the same circumstances) so that’s what he’s going to connect more with
January 17, 2013 at 10:58 pm #168890beastwhispererParticipantThe importance for Hook isn’t about the evil things Regina has done since or her redemption arc. Regina and Daniel had true love when Cora destroyed it. The important part is the parallel with his true love for Milah and choosing whether or not to become the thing he hates.
January 18, 2013 at 2:46 am #168926magic beanParticipantIn that sneak peek with the charmings talking about Cora and Regina, they said that Regina is no where to be found. So maybe Cora turns Regina back into the 'evil queen', so Rumple and Emma must team up to defeat them. And that scene where Cora and Rumple kiss..well.. I'm not convinced, it could be anything, even a dream..And if something similar to this happens, maybe Hook will be forced to pick a side.
Maiqu20 : You said Hook is ‘not a bad guy deep down’. So i’m almost positive that he will make the right decison and decide to team up with the ‘good’ side, since he does have a heart – behind all that pain and vengence. Also if he went back to Cora I dont think it would end well. She is a selfish woman and she doesnt need him anymore.
January 18, 2013 at 4:44 pm #168990hcadiaParticipantwhat if it’s possible for hook to become killian again, if rumple somehow is willing to give him his hand back? just like rumple used magic to make whale got his arm back in the episode “the doctor”….i believe that hook’s hand is somewhere in rumple’s shop… this could be awesome…
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