Hook’s Revenge

[Ziera]

But if Rumpel saw her die or had to kill her himself, it would break Rumpel….bad. It would break me even more…lol.

[scaredcrow65]

@Ziera117 wrote:

I don’t think that Hook has much ‘decency’…he is a pirate.

I said this in another topic, but what if Hook orders Rumpel (with his dagger) to kill Belle himself? I’m not saying he would do it, though that would be craaazy epic…but its a cool idea. It would be cool if he like broke his curse with his true love for belle before he killed her.

I don’t know. Maybe a bit of a stretch…but I like the idea. 🙂 I know…I would take a looong break. I would be crying forever. That would be terrible if she died. I don’t think they could do it though…they would have angry mobs going after them.

Let’s be honest, if you’re a moralless, revenge filled killing type and this is something you’re ok with, it’s totally the way to go. It’s the best and most poetic way he could get revenge on rumple, especially if he specifically orders rumple to rip her heart out just like Milah’s. I think if the writers go here he won’t actually go through with it, for any number of reasons. They seem to be writing hook as somewhat likable and relatable, but still evilish, just like Rumple. The important thing with a character like that is to have them toe the line but not cross it. Gold risked Henry’s life when he stole the potion from Emma. If Henry had died the audience wouldn’t have forgiven gold. But since he didn’t, gold can be loved and redeemed, even though his actions were technically morally the same in either scenario. It’s a storytelling thing. So if hook actually made rumple kil Belle, he’d probably cross that line. I bet if this happens something
stops him, like the power of true love or outside help. Or maybe hook will just hear their pleas and relent because he’s a human bein and she’s completely innocent.
This showdown is bound to be pretty epic regardless, and I do think it will feature Belle somehow. Maybe if hook leaves her alone, she’ll just get the chance to rescue her man for a change!

[Phee]

We really don’t know what Hook does or doesn’t know yet. He’s had about 250 years to research a way to get revenge on Rumple though, and I believe he had to have had contact with other lands during that time – certainly Wonderland if he knows Cora, and he could have maybe still had some sort of information connection to FTL too – because Rumple wasn’t from Neverland, so Hook would need information from outside Neverland to come up with a workable plan. If it’s the case that he could still get info from FTL, it’s entirely possible that he knew that Rumple had a girl, though he wouldn’t know the current state of their relationship in SB.

The basic fact of how to kill the Dark One is to stab him with the dagger. So if Hook’s plan is to kill Rumple, perhaps he’s planning to stab him with the dagger. Perhaps he hopes that he’d then inherit the Dark One power, and would then be able to turn the tables on Rumple by pulling out his true love’s heart right in front of him.

But we don’t know that the dagger works the same in SB. It obviously has SOME power, because Rumple was able to summon the wraith, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that it’d transfer the power in the same way if it was used to kill Rumple. I think that if Hook does try that, that something will happen that will result in the Dark One curse being destroyed, so no one will have that power any more, and in trying to destroy Rumple, Hook would inadvertently save his soul.

I’ll be very surprised if Hook doesn’t try to charm Belle. He knows that’d drive Rumple completely crazy, so it’d be far too much fun to resist.

[a chipped cup]

Oh no! If something happens to Belle, I will slip into a coma. This show is going to kill me.

But I do agree that Hook will try to target Belle in some manner. Either by an attempted murder, or by getting close to her and driving Rumpel nuts. I prefer the ladder just because I don’t want anything bad to happen to Belle, but there’s a good chance that the former will take place as well. But lucky for Belle, Emilie has a season long contract from ABC, so she won’t be going anywhere anytime soon.

[PriceofMagic]

I don’t think Hook will hurt Belle. His plan at the moment is to kill Rumple and he has had that goal since Rumple killed Milah. If Hook were to kill Belle, it would cause Rumple pain but Hook would then be putting Rumple out of his misery by killing him. Hook will probably get close to Belle and then make it clear to Rumple how easily he could hurt Belle, without actually laying a finger on her. Rumple will then probably get overprotective of Belle which could then drive her away.

However, if Rumple is honest with Belle about why Hook is such a danger to her then she can at least take steps to protect herself should Hook come calling. Hook’s become a regular so he is going to be around Storybrooke for quite a while.

All magic comes with a price!

Keeper of Felix

[Ziera]

@Phee wrote:

We really don’t know what Hook does or doesn’t know yet. He’s had about 250 years to research a way to get revenge on Rumple though, and I believe he had to have had contact with other lands during that time – certainly Wonderland if he knows Cora, and he could have maybe still had some sort of information connection to FTL too – because Rumple wasn’t from Neverland, so Hook would need information from outside Neverland to come up with a workable plan. If it’s the case that he could still get info from FTL, it’s entirely possible that he knew that Rumple had a girl, though he wouldn’t know the current state of their relationship in SB.

The basic fact of how to kill the Dark One is to stab him with the dagger. So if Hook’s plan is to kill Rumple, perhaps he’s planning to stab him with the dagger. Perhaps he hopes that he’d then inherit the Dark One power, and would then be able to turn the tables on Rumple by pulling out his true love’s heart right in front of him.

But we don’t know that the dagger works the same in SB. It obviously has SOME power, because Rumple was able to summon the wraith, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that it’d transfer the power in the same way if it was used to kill Rumple. I think that if Hook does try that, that something will happen that will result in the Dark One curse being destroyed, so no one will have that power any more, and in trying to destroy Rumple, Hook would inadvertently save his soul.

I’ll be very surprised if Hook doesn’t try to charm Belle. He knows that’d drive Rumple completely crazy, so it’d be far too much fun to resist.

I think that Hook will not know about Belle. I mean, who knew about that at all? Regina and Rumple. Thats it. But I think its possible that hook will reunite with Smee, and Smee will tell him all about Belle.

@A Chipped Cup wrote:

Oh no! If something happens to Belle, I will slip into a coma. This show is going to kill me.

But I do agree that Hook will try to target Belle in some manner. Either by an attempted murder, or by getting close to her and driving Rumpel nuts. I prefer the ladder just because I don’t want anything bad to happen to Belle, but there’s a good chance that the former will take place as well. But lucky for Belle, Emilie has a season long contract from ABC, so she won’t be going anywhere anytime soon.

@Phee wrote:

I’ll be very surprised if Hook doesn’t try to charm Belle. He knows that’d drive Rumple completely crazy, so it’d be far too much fun to resist.

I have a problem with all this ‘he is going to win her over..’ stuff. I mean, I think it works great with Hooks character…I’d expect something like that from him. But how long would he be able to stay like that with Rumple watching? Wouldn’t that cause an immediate face-off between them? It could work if Rumple never knew Hook was there, but then that would defeat the purpose of torturing him with his closeness to Belle. I’m just not sure how that would work…how Hook would have enough time to try and win her over.
What are your answers to this? 🙂 I like discussing… lol

@scaredcrow65 wrote:

@Ziera117 wrote:

I don’t think that Hook has much ‘decency’…he is a pirate.

I said this in another topic, but what if Hook orders Rumpel (with his dagger) to kill Belle himself? I’m not saying he would do it, though that would be craaazy epic…but its a cool idea. It would be cool if he like broke his curse with his true love for belle before he killed her.

I don’t know. Maybe a bit of a stretch…but I like the idea. 🙂 I know…I would take a looong break. I would be crying forever. That would be terrible if she died. I don’t think they could do it though…they would have angry mobs going after them.

Let’s be honest, if you’re a moralless, revenge filled killing type and this is something you’re ok with, it’s totally the way to go. It’s the best and most poetic way he could get revenge on rumple, especially if he specifically orders rumple to rip her heart out just like Milah’s. I think if the writers go here he won’t actually go through with it, for any number of reasons. They seem to be writing hook as somewhat likable and relatable, but still evilish, just like Rumple. The important thing with a character like that is to have them toe the line but not cross it. Gold risked Henry’s life when he stole the potion from Emma. If Henry had died the audience wouldn’t have forgiven gold. But since he didn’t, gold can be loved and redeemed, even though his actions were technically morally the same in either scenario. It’s a storytelling thing. So if hook actually made rumple kil Belle, he’d probably cross that line. I bet if this happens something
stops him, like the power of true love or outside help. Or maybe hook will just hear their pleas and relent because he’s a human bein and she’s completely innocent.
This showdown is bound to be pretty epic regardless, and I do think it will feature Belle somehow. Maybe if hook leaves her alone, she’ll just get the chance to rescue her man for a change!

No, they wouldn’t go through with it. I wouldn’t want them to, either. It is horrific. But as you said…very poetic. 🙂 It would be cool for a little bit…maybe even if the Emma/Hook romance comes through, she can persuade him not to do it, and he can choose her over his revenge. Just as long as Belle doesn’t die, I’d be happy with this.
But those are good points. It will be the most Epic scene EVER. 😉

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[PriceofMagic]

@Ziera117 wrote:

I have a problem with all this ‘he is going to win her over..’ stuff. I mean, I think it works great with Hooks character…I’d expect something like that from him. But how long would he be able to stay like that with Rumple watching? Wouldn’t that cause an immediate face-off between them? It could work if Rumple never knew Hook was there, but then that would defeat the purpose of torturing him with his closeness to Belle. I’m just not sure how that would work…how Hook would have enough time to try and win her over.
What are your answers to this? 🙂 I like discussing… lol

There was a filming pic of Hook, Rumple and Belle sharing a scene so Rumple is going to be aware of Hook's presence in Storybrooke.

How close Hook gets to Belle is going to depend on how honest Rumple is with her about why Hook wants revenge on him.

All magic comes with a price!

Keeper of Felix

[magickingdom]

I don’t think Hook’s charms are going to work on Belle. Let’s be honest here, this show can be incredibly cheesy at times, and one of the concepts that it constantly promotes is the idea of true love. Even though Belle and Rumpel are currently on a break, I honestly don’t see Belle gravitating towards Hook. There hasn’t been a single true love couple who has committed an act of infidelity on the show yet. (I’m excluding David and MM because they didn’t have their memories at the time). So just by going off of those rules alone, I don’t think Belle will fall for it. I think Hook will try, but I don’t see Belle going for it. So, if anyone were to pull Belle away from Rumpel, it’ll be Rumpel himself.

[midnight dreary]

@MagicKingdomღ wrote:

I don’t think Hook’s charms are going to work on Belle. Let’s be honest here, this show can be incredibly cheesy at times, and one of the concepts that it constantly promotes is the idea of true love. Even though Belle and Rumpel are currently on a break, I honestly don’t see Belle gravitating towards Hook. There hasn’t been a single true love couple who has committed an act of infidelity on the show yet. (I’m excluding David and MM because they didn’t have their memories at the time). So just by going off of those rules alone, I don’t think Belle will fall for it. I think Hook will try, but I don’t see Belle going for it. So, if anyone were to pull Belle away from Rumpel, it’ll be Rumpel himself.

I agree. I don’t think we’ll be seeing any hints of Belle/Hook romance on the show. But I do think that Hook will find a way to use Belle against Rumpel. But whether or not it works is another story.

[PriceofMagic]

Belle is going to stay loyal to Rumple because that is the type of person she is. However, what if Hook makes Rumple think that Belle is straying? Rumple has self esteem issues and Hook has a history of stealing Rumple’s women so to put that thought in Rumple’s mind isn’t going to be too hard.

Rumple’s going to face a dilemma. If he says nothing to Belle, his paranoia is going to continue to grow, but if he does say something to her then she’s going to be offended that he thought she would cheat on him.

All magic comes with a price!

Keeper of Felix

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