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April 5, 2014 at 8:14 pm #259331CrownedWithLaurelsParticipant
Totally agree- but that’s subjective. The only one to make that decision is Emma, and she is a fictional character. If you don’t want to move on, why would you move on? That’s what I am saying. We never got a chance to see what Emma wanted, because she is dead. The only thing we have to go on are her own words. Not hypotheticals. A person who wants to be in a relationship with someone shouldn’t be told to move on just because they had a relationship in the past with someone– unless it was abusive, not reciprocated, or the person is married. Just the same as you’re saying, they shouldn’t be forced to stay just because the relationship was once good… if they want out, let them out. If they want to stay, let them stay. We don’t know what would have happened to their development and what Emma would have decided because he is now dead.
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April 5, 2014 at 8:35 pm #259333puffyParticipantI think the fact that she kissed and had romantic feelings with Graham, then kiss and flirted with Hook and and a serious relationship with Walsh are all indications she’s been ready to move on. The point is she has been making those decisions to move on.
When she saw Neal again she didn’t want to tell Henry about Neal twice. Which isn’t very nice to Neal from a father’s perspective but she keeps choosing to have a life and a family without Neal.
These are all signs Emma has been wanting to move on. Its healthy and should be encouraged. Emma’s a different person now who has chosen to move on multiple times from her own free will. That should be respected. Can’t go backwards can only move forward.
April 5, 2014 at 9:56 pm #259347nealfanforeverParticipantRegina is not Cora’s daughter but rather Eva’s daughter
PLOT TWIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What if nothing is as it seems……Regina and Zelena…sisters by another mother. #OnceUponATime pic.twitter.com/7PW8916Rzu
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A possibility… Regina is Eva’s daughter and Snow’s mother. #OnceUponATime pic.twitter.com/3NT6hKNWP6
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April 6, 2014 at 12:22 am #259393PheeParticipantFirst of all, a big WORD to everything CWL has said!
Also, Neal’s death occurred the day before April Fool’s Day. In real life, Neal Cassady got married on April Fool’s Day. K&H and MJR have both used the interesting wording of the “timing” of this event.
That’s curious timing indeed.
His death occurred in an episode with a man trapped as fire…the talking candlestick. Fake name “Neal Cassidy” “dies” with a Delta symbol on his hand – the Fire symbol and triangulated dots of light in his eyes that resemble the symbol for radiation.
The triangle symbol for fire was also one of the symbols on the Vault door. And in the scene in the castle, Neal puts his had through the flames of Lumiere.
We have Neal Cassidy (assumed name) living in Manhattan. There is a superhero named Dr. Manhattan who becomes a superhero when he is incinerated retrieving his girlfriends watch. He is a member of the Watchmen and Baelfire said he would be “watching over them” from somewhere.
Interesting about the watches. SF ended up getting split up back in the day in a situation that involved stolen watches.
Three people have been marked by a symbol on their hands, Regina (who lived), Philip (who lived) and Baelfire.
Yes. And the shot that looks down on Emma and Rumple with Neal’s body is framed exactly like the shot that looked down on Aurora and Mulan with Philip’s body. They appear to have been shot in different locations, because there’s a big tree in the 315 scene, but there are logs positioned in a way that frames the shot exactly like the MAP scene was. Will see if I can find the gifs again because it’s easier to show it rather than just explain it…
*searching*
The logs in the 315 shot square the area off, like in the MAP scene. There’s also a similar tree in the bottom right of each shot. Basically, they’re set up and framed almost identically, even though they were shot in different locations.I’m not necessarily pinning a whole lot of hope on Neal being brought back to life, but I do think there are enough things that are ambiguous, don’t add up, and hints within the show itself, that leave me unconvinced that Neal’s death can’t be undone.
April 6, 2014 at 2:49 pm #259496nealfanforeverParticipantFirst of all, a big WORD to everything CWL has said!
Also, Neal’s death occurred the day before April Fool’s Day. In real life, Neal Cassady got married on April Fool’s Day. K&H and MJR have both used the interesting wording of the “timing” of this event.
That’s curious timing indeed.
His death occurred in an episode with a man trapped as fire…the talking candlestick. Fake name “Neal Cassidy” “dies” with a Delta symbol on his hand – the Fire symbol and triangulated dots of light in his eyes that resemble the symbol for radiation.
The triangle symbol for fire was also one of the symbols on the Vault door. And in the scene in the castle, Neal puts his had through the flames of Lumiere.
We have Neal Cassidy (assumed name) living in Manhattan. There is a superhero named Dr. Manhattan who becomes a superhero when he is incinerated retrieving his girlfriends watch. He is a member of the Watchmen and Baelfire said he would be “watching over them” from somewhere.
Interesting about the watches. SF ended up getting split up back in the day in a situation that involved stolen watches.
Three people have been marked by a symbol on their hands, Regina (who lived), Philip (who lived) and Baelfire.
Yes. And the shot that looks down on Emma and Rumple with Neal’s body is framed exactly like the shot that looked down on Aurora and Mulan with Philip’s body. They appear to have been shot in different locations, because there’s a big tree in the 315 scene, but there are logs positioned in a way that frames the shot exactly like the MAP scene was. Will see if I can find the gifs again because it’s easier to show it rather than just explain it…
*searching*
The logs in the 315 shot square the area off, like in the MAP scene. There’s also a similar tree in the bottom right of each shot. Basically, they’re set up and framed almost identically, even though they were shot in different locations. I’m not necessarily pinning a whole lot of hope on Neal being brought back to life, but I do think there are enough things that are ambiguous, don’t add up, and hints within the show itself, that leave me unconvinced that Neal’s death can’t be undone.That is a really good eye to see how similarly those two scenes are shot. Also, you are right! I hadn’t noticed that Neal put his hand in the flame. Last night I noticed in Lacey that when Neal and Emma are talking about August and Henry playing at the park together they describe August as being “rebooted”. Rebooted is huge term in comic book characters. Bringing Baelfire back as a superhero was really a stretch when I first started thinking about it but it seems the closer we look the more evidence is found.
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