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February 19, 2013 at 8:27 pm #174345RumplesGirlKeymaster
@medchen wrote:
@RumplesGirl wrote:
@PJSparkles wrote:
Maybe August just found out Emma was pregnant and felt bad for the kid so he brought him to SB because he knew that Emma would return one day or that her kid being in SB might be a reason for her to return on her own. Like a back up plan in case he couldn’t get her to go on his own. I like the BF told August to get Henry theory too.
I think the one problem with the first part of your theory is that it would imply that August isn’t a really selfish person. All evidence points to the opposite, in my opinion. From taking Emma’s money, leaving her (on multiple occasions), he wasn’t built to say no to the pleasures and freedoms of this world. So I don’t think it was out of the goodness of his heart, I think he’s been taking orders from Blue.
Oh come on!! people are not that one sided and that’s not how they are trying to write these characters either. He might have done selfish thoughtless things but that does not make him selfish and thoughtless period. I have faith that he is at least capable of choosing differently. Even if he was born a puppet, aren’t we all ?-Your opinion is wrong…
You know I’m just messing with you with that last comment right?
-But I still think I’m right 😉I agree that he’s not 100% selfish, because on this show no one is 100% anything (good, evil, selfish, selfless, ect). He did come back to SB eventually to try and help Emma (though it did take the twinge in his leg to “wake” him up to his responsibilities). However, one his defining characteristics is his selfishness and his lying. I do believe that he is capable of choosing a different path, but just because you’re capable of doing something doesn’t mean you DO it. That’s the point I’m getting at. For August to feel really badly about Henry being given up for adoption, so badly in fact that he leaves Pukhet (assuming that’s where he was from the events of Manhattan to when he showed up in SB in S1), come back to Phoenix, get Henry, drive to SB, and hand him off to someone in SB (can’t be Gold…Gold had no idea who he was when they met) and then run off again..flies in the face of what we know about the character (plus, it’s just bad story telling) So I agree that he’s not 100% anything, but I think his selfishness overrides his better judgement a good portion of the time.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"February 20, 2013 at 2:04 am #174378timespacerParticipant@SpinningGold wrote:
And who told Henry who his mom was?
Nobody told him – in the pilot we learned that he stole Mary Margaret’s credit card and used it to pay for an internet search to find his birth mom because his relationship with Regina was so troubled.
February 20, 2013 at 12:23 pm #174443PheeParticipant@RumplesGirl wrote:
I think the first question we have to ask is why did Regina suddenly want a child? I’m of the opinion that the idea was planted into her head by a certain Blue Fairy (Mother Superior) who has had her memories this whole time. She’s the head nun, so it would make sense for her to handle the adoption of Henry.
This! I think Mother Superior had something to do with planting the idea in Regina’s head, then Regina went to Mr Gold because Rumple was the go to guy if you wanted to acquire a baby, then Mr Gold went to Mother Superior, who would likely know of any adoptable babies in town, and she handed over Henry. I think Blue set the whole thing up because she discovered Emma was pregnant and wanted to keep the baby close by so she could watch over him, Fairy Godmother style.
As for August’s involvement, I’m not necessarily convinced of that part of it, because he’d already gone to Phuket before Henry was born, and I think he went there because it was the furthest point on Earth from SB and he wanted to be somewhere Blue couldn’t get to him to make him be her errand boy any more. So I can’t really see him coming back just to make a baby delivery, then going all the way back to Phuket again when he was done.
Then of course the question is, who went to retrieve baby Henry? I think Blue may have gone herself. If she wasn’t completely affected by the curse, she could leave town without losing her memories, and she’d only have to be gone for a couple of days, so could likely sneak out of town and sneak back in.
Fans of the August theory also suggest that Regina’s comment about him having seemed familiar is because he’s the one who delivered Henry. But I think he could have been in town without delivering Henry, he could have just been there because Blue summoned him, perhaps to tell him a story about Rumple’s son and give him a box with a typewriter in it, before sending him off on the mission to find Nealfire and Emma.
March 26, 2013 at 6:38 pm #182411TheWatcherParticipantI vaguely recall that it was said by one of the creators that Regina got Henry from Rumpel, who got him from someone on the outside. I always assumed it was August who was responsible.
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They didn’t say anything about getting him from someone ‘on the outside’.Knowing Gold/Rumple was involved in the adoption in some way, I would think that August wasn’t. I don’t think they would have had any contact with each other until AWB posed as Bae because Rumple was almost totally convinced that August was Bae – if they had contact before then, Rumple would have recognized him.
Plus, it was made clear that August was in Phuket when Emma found out that she was pregnant, and he was still there 10 yrs later when She arrived in SB.
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