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We all know Tink’s still spiteful against Regina and for good reason, so I’m wondering, how did Regina ruin Robin’s life? I assume when that flashback happened, it was a time before Robin met Maid Marian and therefore, before he had Roland. In other words, when he was still a bachelor. Then, there’s also the Dark Curse later which Rumple needs her to enact and Marian dying before the curse hit was probably a consequence of Robin using magic in the first place.
I mean, Robin doesn’t seem particularly depressed or even suicidal or angry at the world so …
how did Regina ruin Robin’s life?
[adrotate group="5"]I think Tink is saying that by running away, Regina denied Robin the chance to know and love his soul mate. What Tink is missing is the rest of the story: Marian and Roland. Obviously, Robin isn’t going to say that his life was ruined at all. I think that may actually be something RegalHood is going to have to work out together: Regina’s life was ruined because she chose her hatred and fear, but by doing that Robin had a good life. Sounds like fun filled TV drama to me! 🙂
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I can imagine their first date going like this:
Regina “I wish I had gone into that bar and met you”
RH “But if you had I wouldn’t have had my wife and child”
Regina “But we would have been together
RH “But…look at the kid!”
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Yep, what RG said.
Looking at how Regina turned out, it’s pretty reasonable for Tink to assume that Robin’s life ended up crap too. But she doesn’t have all the facts.
Maybe Tinkerbell wanted to ruin Marian’s life. Green fairy, green for envy.
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I think its safe to assume that Robin at the time of 3×03 was not an outlaw in the green wood, given that showed his face (albeit not to the audience) in a public inn. His life may very well been comfortable at that time. We can then assume some tragic personal event set on the path to being an outlaw possibly a sense of loneliness set in leading him to fall in love with Marian in the first place while she was the Sheriff’s woman. The Sheriff while he appeared to be a drunken letch would then be the bane of his existence and Marian’s poor health got him into sticky spots like Rumple’s dungeon. I think that by denying themselves one another they left an emptiness in each other’s life that only being together can fix (hopefully).
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Well, Tink doesn’t know who Robin actually is- she’s just making an assumption. Just because she says she ruined the man’s life too doesn’t mean it’s true- it only means Tink believes it to be so.
Like angiebelle said. Regina ruin Robin’s life is how Tinkerbell is seeing it, doesn’t mean it’s true. At best it his her honest opinion. There is a slight possibility, she said that to make Regina feel more miserable, thinking, Regina is more vulnerable at the moment (something Tinkerbell would be wrong about, but that is a different discussion), but my guess is, Tinkerbell does think Regina ruined Robin’s life.
It says a lot about Tinkerbell and little about Robin or Regina.
Tinkerbell’s view on the world in the past was a mix of (sometimes misplaced) idealism, naivety, parochialism and impulsiveness. She lacked to see the bigger picture. In that she was like an opposite of Blue. Blue is sometimes a tad too focused on the big picture, making her rigid, rule-bound, conservative, ready to sacrifice the happiness of the one for the greater good, overly pragmatic – opposite not in a sense of directly opposed to each other though, they’re a closer than they might like, which, funny enough, is true for the colors blue and green on the color wheel.
We don’t know (yet) when Tinkerbell came to Neverland, but my guess is she got stuck there a while ago. And very much stuck. Neverland is a place of stagnancy, idleness, and idleness not in a good sense of letting go of anything for a while to sit back and relax, but in the sense of inactivity to avoid any kind of (positive) development and movement, because moving would mean facing something unpleasing, painful. As child already wondered why people wanted to stay in Neverland forever, at best it was a place to come back to once in a while, but not a place to stay – as Kitsis or Horowitz said it so nicely, who wants to stay 15 and in high-school forever. Interestingly Pan seems to like to force people to face their innermost pain of the soul, I am not sure if he knows that that way he might cause pain for a moment but actually is helping them to move on. But that is something to discuss somewhere else, back to Tinkerbell. Tinkerbell stuck in Neverland, unable to move on, her idealism gone stale, she’s angry, disappointed, narrow-minded, unimaginative, simplistic, and still fails to see the bigger picture.
It’s not just a lack of information on Tinkerbell’s side in my opinion, she sees it that way. Robin was meant to be Regina’s next soul mate (or true love, don’t see a difference), and by not going into the tavern and meeting Robin, Regina not only took her own chance away for happiness but also Robin’s chance. Whatever he had afterwards, since, has only been a poor substitute for what he could have had with Regina (regardless how happy he maybe was with Marian and is about his son). As Tinkerbell sees it, Regina ruined her own life, that of Robin and Tinkerbell’s life. In that Tinkerbell is a lot like Regina, blaming others for things she might at least be as responsible for. It’s the world, it’s fate, it’s the others, the cirumstances… It’s a trait of the good guys not to ask around who might be responsible, not to look everywhere else but take responsibility themselves, no matter if or how much they are responsible. Regina doesn’t do that, Rumple doesn’t, and Tinkerbell as well seems to have a bit of problem to do it. So she blames Regina, it’s simpler than to admit that she might have been even big time wrong. Could be called projection, a defense mechanism or strategy known in psychology.
Besides what Tinker is believing in, did Regina ruin Robin’s life? Well Regina might not have ultimately ruined everyone’s lives, but with the curse she ruined the lives of pretty much everybody in the Enchanted Forest (and beyond) for at least a while. So funny thing is, although Tinkerbell is meaning it a different way, she is not far from the truth. Of course now you can argue, that Regina was driven by forces she had no control of, manipulated by her mother, by Rumple, and if believing in the big bad Blue theory the Blue Fairy. But, remember, being the good folks is not about figuring out, who might be responsible, it is about taking responsibility.
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This ‘new true love’ story twist, has its problems I think. First they start off the show by implying there is True Love, wich is magical and ment to be and if you Loose it your basically screwed. Now they are saying, but you can find true love Again wich is then also ment to be and hey your life is ruined if you mess it up…
Regina has her True Love, lost it, and then there was Robin. But Robin hadnt had his first love yet at this point, so was Mariann the Second or the first??
Wait, perhabs it screwed up Robins life that Regina didnt meet him, but then he had his second chance, like Robin was Reginas second chance in ‘commen fairy’ But the difference was that Robin grabbed his second chance and hooked up with Mariann and so his life was not ruined eny more after that… does that Work?
Yeah I think it does, but Im still a bit confused over this True Love concept, if you can go out and find new true love- then why is it so magical in the first place?
I feel like True Love is like the ultimate matchmaker service. This guy is right for you, but this guy or that guy would also be perfect for you if you mess the first one up.. its like arranged marriages. the words True Love sort of Looses their meaning in my mind if this is the case.
As Tinkerbell sees it, Regina ruined her own life, that of Robin and Tinkerbell’s life. In that Tinkerbell is a lot like Regina, blaming others for things she might at least be as responsible for. It’s the world, it’s fate, it’s the others, the cirumstances… It’s a trait of the good guys not to ask around who might be responsible, not to look everywhere else but take responsibility themselves, no matter if or how much they are responsible. Regina doesn’t do that, Rumple doesn’t, and Tinkerbell as well seems to have a bit of problem to do it. So she blames Regina, it’s simpler than to admit that she might have been even big time wrong. Could be called projection, a defense mechanism or strategy known in psychology.
Interesting observation.
Tink was responsible for stealing the dust, no question about that, she committed a crime and was punished for it. The punishment was pretty harsh, but she did know there’d be consequences, so at the end of the day, it’s her own fault she lost her wings. Which is sad, because she’d been genuinely trying to help. In their final scene in FTL, Tink is trying to be all understanding and, “It’s OK if you were scared to go in,” and she’s legitimately hurt when Regina lashes out at her.
Regina should have put the blame on herself, but instead dumped it all on Tink. So in turn, Tink has taken all her negative emotions around how she ended up, and dumped all the blame on Regina.
But then, to Regina’s credit, she did eventually accept responsibility and gave Tink the option of punishing her by crushing her heart. She did some quick talking to save herself too though. And perhaps that’s why Tink felt justified in rubbing it in with the comment about having ruined Robin’s life too, because she still wanted to transfer all the blame onto Regina in order to make herself feel better, and she couldn’t crush Regina’s heart literally, so she did it figuratively instead.
Part of me wants to say that that’s really not fair on Regina. But part of me can’t really blame Tink for being super pissed at Regina, because she really had just been trying to help.
I’m extra curious to see more of Tink now, and will be keeping this stuff in mind the more we learn about her.
This ‘new true love’ story twist, has its problems I think. First they start off the show by implying there is True Love, wich is magical and ment to be and if you Loose it your basically screwed. Now they are saying, but you can find true love Again wich is then also ment to be and hey your life is ruined if you mess it up…
They’ve never said that everyone only has ONE true love. Adam, Eddy, and even Jane have all always said that there should always be hope for new love, even if someone loses their first love. Like Jane recently said in an interview, if there’s no hope for more than one true love in your life, then how sad is that for widowers. It doesn’t mean the first is worth less than the last, it just means that there’s always hope to find new happiness in life.
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