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I was JUST thinking about Rumple’s agenda with the Dark Curse and the history of how it changed hands to try to understand it. So Rumple created it and and we don’t know when or why. Part of the curse requires the conjuror to contribute the heart of the thing he or she loves most – this leads me to believe that Rumple never intended to use it himself because he had already lost his wife and his son (don’t know if he had also lost Belle at this point). I can’t imagine him conjuring a curse that would require him to kill the person he loved the most since he was already in so much pain from losing people he loved.
So Rumple created the curse and at some point either gave it to the EQ or she took it from Rumple but she didn’t use it then for some reason. Why? For some reason she felt the need to either take it or ask for it but then decided not to use it. Instead she traded it with Maleficent for the Sleeping Curse. So did things get better for some reason so that she felt like she only needed the Sleeping Curse? Maleficent obviously thought the Dark Curse was dangerous and should never be used. EQ said that Maleficent was her only friend. So did Maleficent talk EQ into a trade to try to protect the Dark Curse from ever being used? And speaking of Maleficent, where is she in Storybrooke?
Then EQ decides that life has gone to pot again I guess and gets the Dark Curse back again. Now that I write it out this way it makes more sense when Rumple told EQ in his jail cell to hurry up and use the curse already. So I guess he could have been preparing for years for EQ to use the curse. He might not have even known that she traded it to Maleficent.
I still think there are too many holes in the backstories of EQ, Snow, and Rumple to be able to even come up with plausible theories on agendas. From Paley Fest it does sound like we are going to have enough of everything by the end of the season to at least understand what everyone’s motives could be.
[adrotate group="5"]I watched the Paleyfest and I sure hope they give us all the pieces before the end of the season. Rumple could have made the curse just for the queen. I would like to know what the Queen traded him for it. But I like all of your ideas rumplegoldfrankristi 😀
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Alright, RC is supposed to be tweeting tonight. Now I know what I’m going to ask him. I must know what Rumple’s drink of choice is. If the OUaT gods are smiling upon me maybe my tweet won’t get buried in the other 100,000 tweets from 16 year-old fangirls.
Ugh. Got a meeting tonight (and I don’t really comprehend tweeting anyway!), so I will expect a full report in the morning! Good luck.
And the OUaT Gods WERE smiling on me tonight!! I got a response from “Bobby.” I asked about the flask – specifically what he was drinking and if there was a reason for his drinking from the flask in those couple of scenes. Once I stopped screaming and jumping up and down like a 12 year girl, I quickly reminding myself how to breath again and read his response. Appearantly the flask is just a prop for Rumple to make a flourish with. Just thought I would share his take on the flask issue.
Oh, and it was oh so very cool to later check my email and see one that said “Robert Carlyle replied to one of your Tweets!”
On a side note – with the discussion about whether Rumple’s imprisonment in the mines had anything to do with him being protected from the curse by the fairy dust, I had to laugh at a Tweet that someone sent that said they were Tweeting from inside a prison but they weren’t an inmate but they just wanted to say they love the show. RC Tweeted back “They should let you out then?” Found it funny given the amount of time the guy spend behind bars on the show.
Wow, congratulations! I can only imagine how you felt, haha. So I guess we were just over thinking then.
My first question about the curse is WHY did Rumplestiltskin create the curse in the first place? Was it made-to-order for the EQ? That seems only logical because why would he create such a “monstrosity” if somebody hadn’t specifically asked for it? Was he going to use it himself and then changed his mind? Or traded it away for something more important to him? It makes more sense to me that EQ specifically asked for it. And I totally think that if Rumple created it for somebody else, he would embed a failsafe to protect himself from the effects of the curse. He had this in mind when he set up the “please” clause with EQ. She even commented that he wouldn’t remember who he was, and he dodged the issue and got her promise.
I can only assume that Regina will press him to know how he avoided the effects of the curse, and what else she doesn’t know about the curse!
I think if Rumpel created the curse which we don’t know that yet then i would imagine he created it for himself, but for some reason didn’t use it or the Queen tricked him into trading it or the Queen stole it from Rumpel.
Perhaps Rumple didn’t create the curse. We know he doesn’t have the darkest heart in the land, since Regina didn’t require his hair to enact the dark curse like she did from others in ep. 2. We also know Regina didn’t create it either, nor Maleficent, who said, “Whoever created that monstrosity makes us look positively moral.”
In a recent interview, Robert Carlyle hinted that there could be a twist to the show's curse in that the curse may have surprising origins. He also said that relations between Rumple and Regina are going to become far more strained. “Certain things happen toward the last five or six episodes that shake our relationship,” he teased. “You realise that maybe Rumpelstiltskin [didn't create the curse] for her at all – maybe he was doing it for himself. Maybe the curse was created for him.”
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/ustv/s181/once-upon-a-time/news/a369793/once-upon-a-time-robert-carlyle-hints-at-curse-twist.htmlAlso, I can't help but wonder if Cora, Regina's horrible mother, might be the one who makes Regina and Maleficent “look positively moral.” (i.e. Cora created the curse).
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Perhaps he avoided the effects of the curse because he had no happily ever after to be destroyed on FTL. If you think about it, all we know about Rumple are sad things. He lost his wife, his son, and Belle. He became a monster, something I feel he regrets, though he loves his power. Perhaps his suffering is remembering everything in his past – if he hadnt, his life in Sb would be far better (it seems) than his one in FTL. In SB he has a high place in society and is feared by many. In FTL he lost everything that meant something to him. If the curse had black out Rumple like it had everyone else, he would have been happier than he was in FTL. Perhaps the curse did work on Rumple, but rather than blacking him out so he could never be happy, he remembered so he could never be happy. Isn’t that the real point of the curse, to never have a happily ever after.
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