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July 9, 2013 at 10:08 pm #199975angiebelleParticipant
So among the things we obsessed fans might ponder…
How exactly did the curse work anyway? They have indicated that a lot of the cursed personalities were created by Regina, but she couldn’t have possibly known everyone in the enter realm nor have thought through every tiny detail of everyone’s life!
And how did people in other worlds get pulled into the curse? Jefferson and Victor? Storybrooke isn’t big enough to have imploded *every* magical realm in existence!
Then of course there is the much debated issue of how did they get supplies? How did they get updated technology? How were they so cut off from the rest of the world if they had access to the internet?
Now that the curse is broken, what are their memories of their cursed years like? Did the haze lift and they now remember 28 years worth of repetitions and not aging? Or does it still feel as if it wasn’t much time at all?
What was it like for Belle during her time in the asylum? We know she was a blank slate, but did she truly have no knowledge of how our world works? She didn’t seem startled by technology when she was in the hospital.
Of course, all this falls into the category of things we are not supposed to think too hard about! 😉
[adrotate group="5"]July 9, 2013 at 11:13 pm #199987RumplesGirlKeymasterAnd how did people in other worlds get pulled into the curse? Jefferson and Victor? Storybrooke isn’t big enough to have imploded *every* magical realm in existence!
This we know. Regina brought with her people from other lands that she wanted to come over. People she’s had dealing with. She told Archie this in The Doctor:
Archie: About the curse only taking the living. The grave of your father’s here, right?
Regina: I don’t care about Whale or his brother. I brought who I wanted.
Then of course there is the much debated issue of how did they get supplies? How did they get updated technology? How were they so cut off from the rest of the world if they had access to the internet?
I feel like this is one of those questions that bothers people because we’re modern and think there has to be an explanation. It’s like I’ve said before: the Curse provided. It was designed to keep the residents alive forever, not knowing who they were. It provided everything they needed to keep them alive. As far as technology goes, I think the Curse updated itself every so often. It’s magic. Magic will not explain itself to you, it doesn’t have to. It’s magic. That’s the answer: magic. They weren’t cut off from the world, the world was cut off from them. The world could not reach them, but obviously they had to internet and phones but they didn’t use them because they had no reason to. They walked around in a fog. It never occurred to them to reach the outside world because they saw no point.
Now that the curse is broken, what are their memories of their cursed years like? Did the haze lift and they now remember 28 years worth of repetitions and not aging? Or does it still feel as if it wasn’t much time at all?
This is a good question and one I’m interested in. What do they think of all the time they spent cursed. We know they are both, but is there more to it?
What was it like for Belle during her time in the asylum? We know she was a blank slate, but did she truly have no knowledge of how our world works? She didn’t seem startled by technology when she was in the hospital.
As Belle spent most of season two rather underdevloped, I’m hoping she may reflect on her time at the asylum. She didn’t seem startled by tech, but as a blank slate she has no memory of anything. None if is weird to her because she has no previous experience with which to compare it.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"July 9, 2013 at 11:28 pm #199989angiebelleParticipantYeah, magic was my assumption all along regarding upgraded technology and how they got supplies. I just want to know how it worked..like if it just poofed new stuff and no one noticed and just suddenly had memories of it as if it had been there all along.
So you don’t think they interacted with the outside world at all through the internet? That would be strange, wouldn’t it? If they did, I think those people in our world would get confused by what was going on in Storybrooke!
That’s right- Regina did mention choosing people she wanted to bring…guess I just wanted to see that concept in action!
Yes, I’m *really* hoping for more development for Belle too! I want to see more of her FTL past and I want them to really delve into her head about how all the terrible things that have happened to her and how she feels about them. Poor girl should need therapy!
July 10, 2013 at 5:46 am #200002PriceofMagicParticipantYes, I’m *really* hoping for more development for Belle too! I want to see more of her FTL past and I want them to really delve into her head about how all the terrible things that have happened to her and how she feels about them. Poor girl should need therapy!
I’m looking forward to more Belle development. I don’t think Belle will seek therapy. She doesn’t seem like the type who would want to dwell on the bad things that have happened to her. She’s not so much bottling it up, more just not thinking about it. I can see her sharing things like that with Rumple, and him with her, because that’s a little trust thing between the two, but I don’t see either of them wanting to include other people in their private problems. Belle only told Ruby that she had been a “kept” woman for the last 28 years whereas she told Rumple she’d been in the asylum. Rumple only went to Archie in season 1 when he thought August was Bae because at the time he literally had no one else to talk to.
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Keeper of FelixJuly 10, 2013 at 8:38 am #200010PheeParticipantSo you don’t think they interacted with the outside world at all through the internet? That would be strange, wouldn’t it? If they did, I think those people in our world would get confused by what was going on in Storybrooke!
If the outside world had to remain oblivious to SB existing, it’s a convenient way to explain that if no one in SB ever had the urge to communicate with the outside world. I can buy the idea that none of them tried to communicate.
Except…Henry. He used the mommy finder website and MM’s credit card.
I could buy it if it turned out that the mommy finder site wasn’t a legit site, and was just a setup by someone who wanted Henry to get the info. If not, and that site was the real deal, then it means that Regina’s address is on record in a real world system, and I don’t see how that could be, because as far as the real world is concerned, Regina’s address doesn’t actually exist.
But then, MM’s credit card had to be verified by real world systems or Henry couldn’t have bought the bus ticket or paid for the cab. So magically created info has to be recogniseable by real world systems, even if the real world isn’t aware that SB or anything or anyone in it even exist.
Unless the bus and the cab were a setup too, along with the mommy finder site.
*headdesk*
Of course, all this falls into the category of things we are not supposed to think too hard about! 😉
And even though we know that, and we should just shrug and say, “it’s magic”, look at us go anyway. LOL 😉
July 10, 2013 at 8:59 am #200012RumplesGirlKeymasterSo you don’t think they interacted with the outside world at all through the internet? That would be strange, wouldn’t it? If they did, I think those people in our world would get confused by what was going on in Storybrooke!
No I don’t think they did. They felt no need to, even though the option was available to them. The outside world was there and they knew of it and they could make contact if the curse hadn’t kept them all in a fog.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"July 10, 2013 at 11:08 am #200027angiebelleParticipantAlthough….what about Katherine communicating with that school in Boston? Or when Hansel and Gretel were going to get sent into foster care?
July 10, 2013 at 11:11 am #200029RumplesGirlKeymasterAlthough….what about Katherine communicating with that school in Boston? Or when Hansel and Gretel were going to get sent into foster care?
Well, it’s worth noting that both those events took place AFTER Emma arrived in SB and the fog was beginning to lift.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"July 10, 2013 at 11:17 am #200030PheeParticipantAlso, we have no real proof that those communications actually happened, or if it was just stuff set up by Regina to get annoying people to try and leave town and have something horrible happen to them.
July 17, 2013 at 2:45 am #200559GaultheriaParticipantThis we know. Regina brought with her people from other lands that she wanted to come over. People she’s had dealing with.
Regina wouldn’t have been able to hand-pick each person, so the decision-making process probably started very specifically and became less and less focussed:
A-list: Snow and Charming
B-list: their family, friends, and allies
C-list: people with particular skills (doctor, sheriff, dragon,…)
D-list: peasants, enough to fill in the background for a proper kingdom
I feel like this is one of those questions that bothers people because we’re modern and think there has to be an explanation. It’s like I’ve said before: the Curse provided. It was designed to keep the residents alive forever, not knowing who they were. It provided everything they needed to keep them alive.
I wonder if Mayor Mills’ memories are completely accurate, then. Could be that she only thinks she wasn’t affected. She unleashed the curse so that she could feel in control, and she seems to think that she was responsible for all of the detail work, but there was way too much for one person to organize.
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