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March 4, 2013 at 9:57 am #176828MatthewPaulModerator
Hopefully we’ll get more information once or if the press release is ever posted, but IMBD lists that Eva Allen is playing Princess Eva, so unless this is incorrect, this might rule out Eva and Cora being sisters. You can't be a princess if your father is a miller.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2620930/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast
[adrotate group="5"]March 4, 2013 at 11:05 am #176836PheeParticipant@slurpeez108 wrote:
I think Cora was in love with King George. Maybe Eva was related to George, like his sister.
Love this idea! Eva was clearly royalty through several generations judging by the tiara talk, so that does rule out them having been sisters, which is a bummer, because I’d always liked that theory. But Eva being a sibling to George would fit in with one of my other fave theories, that Cora loved George, and had an affair with him. If Eva was friends with her sister-in-law, George’s wife, then of course she’d have disliked Cora in a situation like that. Perhaps Eva even knew that Regina was George’s child, a result of the affair, and that’s part of why Cora wanted her eliminated.
@ItachiIshtar wrote:
Hopefully we’ll get more information once or if the press release is ever posted, but IMBD lists that Eva Allen is playing Princess Eva, so unless this is incorrect, this might rule out Eva and Cora being sisters. You can't be a princess if your father is a miller.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2620930/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast
Hmmm, interesting! So we're gonna get YoungEva in the same ep as YoungCora. At least the question posed in this thread will be answered soon then.
March 4, 2013 at 1:45 pm #176870RumplesGirlKeymaster@ItachiIshtar wrote:
Hopefully we’ll get more information once or if the press release is ever posted, but IMBD lists that Eva Allen is playing Princess Eva, so unless this is incorrect, this might rule out Eva and Cora being sisters. You can't be a princess if your father is a miller.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2620930/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast
That’s really interesting. I dont think they’re sisters but obviously enemies and it has to do with Cora’s station in life as the Miller’s Daughter. I wonder if Young Eva was like Young Snow before her mother dies: thinks the servants are lower than the royals.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 4, 2013 at 2:41 pm #176892SlurpeezParticipant@RumplesGirl wrote:
@ItachiIshtar wrote:
Hopefully we’ll get more information once or if the press release is ever posted, but IMBD lists that Eva Allen is playing Princess Eva, so unless this is incorrect, this might rule out Eva and Cora being sisters. You can't be a princess if your father is a miller.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2620930/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast
That’s really interesting. I dont think they’re sisters but obviously enemies and it has to do with Cora’s station in life as the Miller’s Daughter. I wonder if Young Eva was like Young Snow before her mother dies: thinks the servants are lower than the royals.
Oh, very interesting theory. I could see young Eva taunting young Cora for being a social climber and saying, “You’ll never be more than a miller’s daughter.” That is why Cora emphasized that same phrase “miller’s daughter” when she gloated over Eva’s casket.
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March 4, 2013 at 4:06 pm #176917hcadiaParticipant@Red192 wrote:
I think that they were childhood friends, and that Cora was always jealous that Eva was a princess, while she was a Miller’s daughter.
I share the same thought as you. I think that Cora as the Miller’s daughter was working at the palace where Princess Eva (Now Queen Eva) lived. And somehow they became friends because of their age. Why I think this was because of the intense why Cora talked on yesterday’s episode and she also did kissed her fingers and placed them over Eva’s lips… like good friends do when they are kids..
If I don’t remember wrong, Rumple has said to Regina before she pushed Cora through the mirror before the wedding, that Regina wasn’t like her family/mother… that she was different… so I think that Cora was always jealous and envy of everything that Princess Eva had… money, royalty, true love/love, kingdom. I think Cora was born with “dark” soul, unlike Regina who grew up with a good soul.
I think it was possible that Cora was being betrayed by her love interest, and that was the reason why she kept saying “love is a weakness”… and that this made her become the evil one that wanted to gain powers to do what she wants…. and since she was interested in using Dark Magic which maybe lead to fights between her and Eva and they stopped being friends. Cora wanted the kingdom and the life like Eva so she summed Rumple and wanted him to learn her using magic… and maybe the two of them did have a romance before Rumple dumped her over magic and Cora now wants to take control over him too…. Ahhh.. Cora is a piece of work:) But I love the actress that plays Cora, she really does an amazing job!!! 😀
March 4, 2013 at 5:39 pm #176960PriceofMagicParticipantIsn’t there a line about how Blue Fairy only grants wishes to those whose hearts are true? Could be a call back to when Belle said that Rumple’s “heart is true” in The Outsider.
Perhaps when she was the Miller’s daughter, Cora asked the Blue Fairy for help to escape her life. However, the Blue Fairy refused to grant Cora’s wish because Cora’s heart wasn’t true. Then along comes Rumple. Eventually after making the deal with Rumple, Cora is in a position of power when she meets Eva. Despite being royal, Eva has had a wish granted by the Blue Fairy. Enraged by how unfair that is, Cora takes it upon herself to destroy the thing Eva loves most (Snow) and see to it that Regina becomes the queen.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixMarch 4, 2013 at 8:00 pm #177038schmackyParticipantjust listen to Cora’s speech over Eva’s dead body and it screams that they’re sisters.
“Snow would have been a great ruler someday but that’ll never happen because my daughter will be Queen. And all yours will be left with is knowing with how I felt. How it feels to be the Miller’s daughter.”
I’m like 90% sure that Eva and Cora have the same father. The King. The King had an affair with the Miller’s wife. Hell, maybe that’s who he had really loved but he had to marry the Queen instead (as the royalty was from Eva’s mother, not her father). And Cora was born first. She, in her mind, should have been the princess and should have been raised become Queen. But instead, she was raised as the Miller’s daughter. And then her younger sister, Eva, is everything that Cora should have had.
That life was supposed to be Cora’s. She should have been Queen and her daughter should have been a princess. But, it’s too late for Cora to be Queen. But, it’s not too late for her daughter..
Cora wanted to destroy Eva and her entire line not because of some whatever vendetta when they were young. But, because Eva and her line are the rightful heirs to the throne. And Cora hated Eva more than anything.
Sibling rivalry.
Hell, it could even be that Cora knows of their relationship but Eva never did. It could be that Eva never knew she had a sister. But Cora’s mother would tell her about who her real father was, The King.
March 4, 2013 at 8:46 pm #177056wewerecursedParticipantI was just about to say pretty much what Schmacky ^ just said. I agree that they’re half sisters, and Cora is the product of an affair.
Eva’s father could have had a thing with a maid in the castle, (which, come on, happened all the time,) which would add a lot of weight to the line about knowing what it’s like to “be the miller’s daughter”, if Cora knew that her real father was the king. I’m definitely placing my bets on it, and maybe even that they grew up together, Cora as like her handmaid or childhood companion. (In the clocktower, she snapped at Johanna, calling her a handmaid, and putting quite a bit of bitterness behind that word.)
And for the record, I called this ages ago! Haha 🙂
March 4, 2013 at 8:56 pm #177058kfchimeraParticipant@WeWereCursed! wrote:
I was just about to say pretty much what Schmacky ^ just said. I agree that they’re half sisters, and Cora is the product of an affair.
Eva’s father could have had a thing with a maid in the castle, (which, come on, happened all the time,) which would add a lot of weight to the line about knowing what it’s like to “be the miller’s daughter”, if Cora knew that her real father was the king. I’m definitely placing my bets on it, and maybe even that they grew up together, Cora as like her handmaid or childhood companion. (In the clocktower, she snapped at Johanna, calling her a handmaid, and putting quite a bit of bitterness behind that word.)
And for the record, I called this ages ago! Haha 🙂
Hmm…that’s interesting…and makes Henry’s family tree even more messed up!
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March 4, 2013 at 9:00 pm #176973SlurpeezParticipant@Schmacky wrote:
just listen to Cora’s speech over Eva’s dead body and it screams that they’re sisters.
“Snow would have been a great ruler someday but that’ll never happen because my daughter will be Queen. And all yours will be left with is knowing with how I felt. How it feels to be the Miller’s daughter.”
I’m like 90% sure that Eva and Cora have the same father. The King. The King had an affair with the Miller’s wife. Hell, maybe that’s who he had really loved but he had to marry the Queen instead (as the royalty was from Eva’s mother, not her father). And Cora was born first. She, in her mind, should have been the princess and should have been raised become Queen. But instead, she was raised as the Miller’s daughter. And then her younger sister, Eva, is everything that Cora should have had.
That life was supposed to be Cora’s. She should have been Queen and her daughter should have been a princess. But, it’s too late for Cora to be Queen. But, it’s not too late for her daughter..
Cora wanted to destroy Eva and her entire line not because of some whatever vendetta when they were young. But, because Eva and her line are the rightful heirs to the throne. And Cora hated Eva more than anything.
Sibling rivalry.
Hell, it could even be that Cora knows of their relationship but Eva never did. It could be that Eva never knew she had a sister. But Cora’s mother would tell her about who her real father was, The King.
Okay, assuming I’ve understood your theory correctly, Cora and Eva shared the same father, the king. That would mean Cora’s father’s isn’t really a miller after all; the miller is just some drunk married to her peasant mother who had an affair with the king. That sounds plausible, since kings often had illegitimate children.
My issue with the theory though is that if Princess Eva is the sister of Prince Henry, that would mean Prince Henry is also Cora’s half-brother by sharing the same father, King Xavier. Yet, I believe Cora’s love interest is supposed to be Prince Henry, so that would be incestuous, even if she didn’t know he was her half-brother. Yikes! I don’t think Disney would let Adam and Eddy go that far on a family show. 😕
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