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March 4, 2013 at 9:08 pm #177061wewerecursedParticipant
My issue with the theory though is that if Princess Eva is the sister of Prince Henry, that would mean Prince Henry is also Cora’s half-brother by sharing the same father, King Xavier. Yet, I believe Cora’s love interest is supposed to be Prince Henry, so that would be incestuous, even if she didn’t know he was her half-brother. Yikes! I don’t think Disney would let Adam and Eddy go that far on a family show
They weren’t saying that Henry was Eva’s brother, only that Eva and Cora share the same father. I think Henry is just some poor dope that the miller arranged to marry Cora.
[adrotate group="5"]March 4, 2013 at 9:16 pm #177062schmackyParticipantHenry could be a prince of another kingdom. Maybe fell out of grace or was disgraced somehow and that’s why he no longer had power. Or maybe Henry and Eva are brother and sister and Eva ended up inheriting the throne instead of Henry (either because she’s older or because he fell out of grace with the family or something).
But Cora has a serious hate on for Eva and I think it’s quite plausible they are siblings.
March 4, 2013 at 9:40 pm #177068kfchimeraParticipant@slurpeez108 wrote:
My issue with the theory though is that if Princess Eva is the sister of Prince Henry, that would mean Prince Henry is also Cora’s half-brother by sharing the same father, King Xavier. Yet, I believe Cora’s love interest is supposed to be Prince Henry, so that would be incestuous, even if she didn’t know he was her half-brother. Yikes! I don’t think Disney would let Adam and Eddy go that far on a family show. 😕
Why would Eva have to be Henry’s sister for this theory? There’s several Kingdoms that have been mentioned in the show–Midas, George, Leopold and probably others. It’s possible that Cora is the illegitimate daughter of Eva’s father in one Kingdom, but she sets her sights on marrying up into a neighboring, poorer kingdom, ruled by Henry Sr’s Father. So then there’s no direct incestuousness…except that Cora marries her daughter to her half-sister’s husband Leopold, I suppose.
I’m thinking Eva and Cora were friends, maybe even best friends, until something happened one day, and for one reason or another, Cora’s status as the miller’s daughter became an issue.
Another thing that could be, is that they were cousins.I don’t think the writers are going to be so elaborate, but they could bring in the fairy tale of Puss in boots, which also has a Miller. The tale goes that there are 3 sons of a Miller. The Miller dies and leaves his oldest the mill, and the youngest gets a talking cat who sneakily and cleverly helps the youngest son to get married to a Princess and become King. (I am totally imagining the Puss character would be Rumple somehow!) So if those two sons had daughters, one would be a Princess (Eva) , and the other would be the Miller’s daughter (Cora).
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
March 6, 2013 at 12:28 am #177455obisgirlParticipant@Schmacky wrote:
just listen to Cora’s speech over Eva’s dead body and it screams that they’re sisters.
“Snow would have been a great ruler someday but that’ll never happen because my daughter will be Queen. And all yours will be left with is knowing with how I felt. How it feels to be the Miller’s daughter.”
I’m like 90% sure that Eva and Cora have the same father. The King. The King had an affair with the Miller’s wife. Hell, maybe that’s who he had really loved but he had to marry the Queen instead (as the royalty was from Eva’s mother, not her father). And Cora was born first. She, in her mind, should have been the princess and should have been raised become Queen. But instead, she was raised as the Miller’s daughter. And then her younger sister, Eva, is everything that Cora should have had.
That life was supposed to be Cora’s. She should have been Queen and her daughter should have been a princess. But, it’s too late for Cora to be Queen. But, it’s not too late for her daughter..
Cora wanted to destroy Eva and her entire line not because of some whatever vendetta when they were young. But, because Eva and her line are the rightful heirs to the throne. And Cora hated Eva more than anything.
Sibling rivalry.
Hell, it could even be that Cora knows of their relationship but Eva never did. It could be that Eva never knew she had a sister. But Cora’s mother would tell her about who her real father was, The King.
If that theory becomes true, the family is about to get really complicated. 😆
@PriceofMagic wrote:
Isn’t there a line about how Blue Fairy only grants wishes to those whose hearts are true? Could be a call back to when Belle said that Rumple’s “heart is true” in The Outsider.
Perhaps when she was the Miller’s daughter, Cora asked the Blue Fairy for help to escape her life. However, the Blue Fairy refused to grant Cora’s wish because Cora’s heart wasn’t true. Then along comes Rumple. Eventually after making the deal with Rumple, Cora is in a position of power when she meets Eva. Despite being royal, Eva has had a wish granted by the Blue Fairy. Enraged by how unfair that is, Cora takes it upon herself to destroy the thing Eva loves most (Snow) and see to it that Regina becomes the queen.
I can see that happening too.
March 7, 2013 at 6:34 pm #177957raulybarraParticipantI’m certainly on board with either the sisters or closest friends theory. Generally, you have to be incredibly close at one time in order to get such dark hatred for another. However, I think we may also be seeing a part of Cora’s nature in her selfishness, elitism and sense of entitlement. I.e., she may not have been on the side of evil initially, but all the ingredients were there.
Think, too… If Cora was the older sister and Eva was chosen to be queen over her because of Eva goodness and love, would that not be just the spark to light the fire of evil that has been waiting within her?
March 8, 2013 at 2:33 am #178113swanning-offParticipantSneak peek seems to suggest that they just hate each other. But there has to be something more. If Cora just killed Eva for that trip…. She’s a lot more evil than previously suggested.
March 8, 2013 at 2:44 am #178120jbwood5ParticipantI think Eva is going to find out about Cora and rumple’s connection and that will ruin Cora in the eyes of the kingdom for using dark magic to obtain her status. Thus she will never be queen and she’ll hold Eva responsible and vow to ruin everything in her life. I mean she did kill Eva, very much responsible for the Snow’s fathers death and now trying to kill Snow, Charming, Emma and possibly Henry.
March 8, 2013 at 3:02 am #178127kfchimeraParticipantNow I’m wondering if they are going to go exactly that route, that there was nothing more than a passing humiliation. It makes Cora all the more evil…like the story by Poe, The cask of Amontillado…someone who reacts out of anger and out of all proportion to the injury suffered, though you never know what exactly the original insult was. Similar really, to what Regina does to Snow, except we (mostly) know what happened between them.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
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