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April 1, 2015 at 12:12 am #300472BelleOfTheBallParticipant
So we know from this episode that the Author like to cause a little mischief and write stories the way he sees fit – what makes a “good story”. But how far does his power go?
My initial reaction was that the Author can only sway our characters and persuade them to take one path over another. For example, his hand in taking away Mal’s baby and ensuring Emma’s goodness was convincing Snow and Charming to go the opposite way down the path then they originally intended. If he had just let them continue home, Snowing may have raised their baby and taught her to be kind and good rather than needing a spell to force it upon her.
Then I rewatched the episode and heard the apprentice say “how could you MAKE me do that to that baby” (or something along those lines). I realized then that the Author had more power than I initially thought. It seems what he writes comes to pass.
So here is the Crack theory:
Remember when Tink brought Regina to the tavern and told her that she needed to walk inside and talk to the man with the lion tattoo to find her happy ending and Regina ran? Well, in my theory Regina actually went inside, met Robin, and they fell in love. Hence the story book page of young Regina and Robin together. The Author did not like this ending – no Regina, no dark curse. So he rewrote the scene and made Regina run. The story book page of Regina and Robin is from the original story Before it was rewritten by this Author.
Thoughts? My roommate and I were talking and she thought of this. Wanted to share it here with you all =)
[adrotate group="5"]April 1, 2015 at 1:13 am #300478Reginastwin3ParticipantSo we know from this episode that the Author like to cause a little mischief and write stories the way he sees fit – what makes a “good story”. But how far does his power go? My initial reaction was that the Author can only sway our characters and persuade them to take one path over another. For example, his hand in taking away Mal’s baby and ensuring Emma’s goodness was convincing Snow and Charming to go the opposite way down the path then they originally intended. If he had just let them continue home, Snowing may have raised their baby and taught her to be kind and good rather than needing a spell to force it upon her. Then I rewatched the episode and heard the apprentice say “how could you MAKE me do that to that baby” (or something along those lines). I realized then that the Author had more power than I initially thought. It seems what he writes comes to pass. So here is the Crack theory: Remember when Tink brought Regina to the tavern and told her that she needed to walk inside and talk to the man with the lion tattoo to find her happy ending and Regina ran? Well, in my theory Regina actually went inside, met Robin, and they fell in love. Hence the story book page of young Regina and Robin together. The Author did not like this ending – no Regina, no dark curse. So he rewrote the scene and made Regina run. The story book page of Regina and Robin is from the original story Before it was rewritten by this Author. Thoughts? My roommate and I were talking and she thought of this. Wanted to share it here with you all =)
I like this idea.
I am a nerd at heart.
April 1, 2015 at 8:43 am #300485ry4christParticipantOh man, I like this idea too. Although I wouldn’t want to “go back” to the original way, since it would negate nearly everything that’s happened so far. I also hope if they go this route, they tell us the author only did this a few times, otherwise we’ll wonder if the author made every character make everything big or little choice.
April 1, 2015 at 9:05 am #300487SlurpeezParticipantI also hope if they go this route, they tell us the author only did this a few times, otherwise we’ll wonder if the author made every character make everything big or little choice.
This is my biggest gripe with the all-powerful enchanted quill. It’s like the elder wand in Harry Potter–an unbeatable, unstoppable magical object–only this quill doesn’t just have the power to destroy but literally to rewrite history and control others. I don’t like the removal of freewill. I dislike the notion that someone forced Regina to be evil, because that would remove her responsibility for her own decisions. It just calls everything and every decision ever made into question. I further dislike the idea that there really was an alternate history in which Regina went into the bar but then this Author forced Regina to believe she’d done otherwise.
While I could envision an AU in which this comes to pass through Rumple forcing the Author to give the villains what they think is their happy ending, I think the quill may be a plot device which is meant to demonstrate the harm of doing so. The ultimate outcome will be bad for Regina, because the rewriting of history would mean her losing her son. So, the warning will be “be careful what you wish for” and then Henry will have to rewrite the story back to its original telling to undo the AU. Also, I think the other moral of the story will be what Glinda told Zelena in 3×20, which was that we all have the power to shape our destiny, to choose whether to be good or bad. Regina had to choose whether to pursue evil or good, she chose evil, but then freely chose to become good again. So her freewill needs to count for real redemption to be made. Take away Regina’s and everyone else’s freedom to choose and it just undermines all the character growth of the past few seasons.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
April 1, 2015 at 9:25 am #300492RumplesGirlKeymasterI dislike the notion that someone forced Regina to be evil, because that would remove her responsibility for her own decisions. It just calls everything and every decision ever made into question. I further dislike the idea that there really was an alternate history in which Regina went into the bar but then this Author forced Regina to believe she’d done otherwise.
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The Author did not like this ending – no Regina, no dark curse. So he rewrote the scene and made Regina run. The story book page of Regina and Robin is from the original story Before it was rewritten by this Author.
While I think this is highly interesting, my problem still rests on the concept of free will. Regina chose not to go in because she was scared. That’s incredibly human and understandable and help build sympathy for a character. To take that away and make it that she and everyone else are simply toys the writers can play with, break, rebuild and then play with again really would not please me because we’ve been told time and time again that evil isn’t born it’s made [by the villains themselves and the choices they make]
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 1, 2015 at 10:58 am #300508BelleOfTheBallParticipantI don’t think we will ever see the AU or for that matter ever try and go back and make it happen (I’m hoping we are 100000% done with time traveling after last year). But I thought it was a cool concept and explication as to why the page exists.
I completely agree that taking away a characters free will is a horrible idea, however the way I understood the episode it seemed that the Author did take away the Apprentices free will in the Snowing situation. Unless the apprentice could not lie to Snow when she asked him if there wasn’t a way to ensure Emma’s goodness (some contract with his position or something) then it seems the Author was controlling all actions in THIS situation.
Now we can assume that the last 6-7 months or so before the curse hit that no one was being controlled by said quill (if that’s the way A&E choose to go with this story line), but I still don’t think every action we have seen in 4 seasons has been written or controlled. I was merely suggesting that perhaps this was the way the Author got the ball rolling on his version of the story. He couldn’t have changed that many things or else the Apprentice would have known long before Snowing came to him. Perhaps this was just a push in the right direction for Regina to become evil. I see him more as a puppet master. Changing one simple decision of a character and it sets off a chain effect. I don’t think he wrote the evil things Regina did. I just think if he simply wrote she walked away rather than going inside. I still believe Regina choices and things she did were her. But perhaps that one small change in her story was all it took for her to break.
April 1, 2015 at 11:06 am #300510RumplesGirlKeymasterdon’t think we will ever see the AU or for that matter ever try and go back and make it happen (I’m hoping we are 100000% done with time traveling after last year)
Welllllllll that’s the finale–an AU–so…. though not necessarily the specific AU you’re referring to as the Robin and Regina in the bar. It’s more like OQ is getting the Snow Falls treatment like Emma/Hook did last year.
I was merely suggesting that perhaps this was the way the Author got the ball rolling on his version of the story.
I am much more okay with that idea than I am of him (read: Adam and Eddy) taking away free will.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 1, 2015 at 8:49 pm #300601BelleOfTheBallParticipantHaha well I did not know that about the finale. Hmmmm makes me more curious if maybe this crack theory could go somewhere..
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