How is it possible (aka so much for the Golden light)

[harleygirl]

I agree, RG.
They’re gonna have to find a “loophole” 😉

[Marty McFly]

Surpeez108 wrote:
” Strictly speaking,that’s not entirely true since the dark one curse can be broken. From Skin Deep:

Belle: And a kiss… A kiss is enough? He’d be a man again? Regina: An ordinary man. True love’s kiss will break any curse.”

Could be, but, Regina is the one who said the DO curse could be broken with TLK. And maybe she believed that, but we all know that’s not true. The DO curse cannot be broken with TLK.

What we saw in Skin Deep was Rumple becoming more human. Still cursed, but more human. Look at how different Rumple looks as the DO as opposed to Zoso.
Why is that?
No, breaking the DO curse is not as simple as TLK.

my theory has always been that his horrible skin and teeth and nails were a curse he put on himself, apart from the dark one curse, to remind him that he is a monster and every bad thing he did would make him look more hideous so he’d try to behave…?

[harleygirl]

Marty yes. I always thought something along that line. Rumple made himself look like the monster that he thought he was. Belle’s kiss made him feel human again – albeit, still cursed.
Her kiss wasn’t breaking the DO curse, it was just making him reallize he was just a man.

[TheGoldenKey]

Lots of interesting ideas/theories about why the Golden Light wasn’t the breaking of the DO’s curse.

I have to wonder if maybe TLK isn’t a one shot deal per curse.   Perhaps if TLK is rejected the first time around, the golden opportunity is lost.  Again, just another thought to throw into the ring.

Considering that there is so much wrapped up in the history of the Dark One’s curse, the dagger and who originally created it, that they’d be remiss if they didn’t play on all of that drama.   There is still so much of that part of the story to tell.  In my mind, it has to play a part in Rumple’s redemption.  I just can’t see that battle happening without Rumple at the helm.

I’m not saying that TLK won’t play a huge part in things, but I think the sounding of trumpets, for that last battle, will have Rumple confront the “ultimate evil” where again, he may perish ONLY to be saved by Belle with TLK.  That’s where we’ll see a light so brilliant, studded with diamonds,  enveloping Rumple, lifting, swirling & twirling him in the air, and finally laying him to rest at Belle’s feet.  A real Beauty and the Beast ending with TLK.

Ya, I know.  My imagination is running away with me as I sit here drooling rainbows; however, that’s how I see his story being played out.   Happy or unhappy endings are ENDINGS.    I don’t want to see anyone’s story end just yet.

 

Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

[Slurpeez]

Her kiss wasn’t breaking the DO curse, it was just making him reallize he was just a man.

To me, it looked like Rumple’s curse was being broken by Belle’s kiss in Skin Deep. Belle even cried out “It’s working” and you could see Rumple visibly transforming from his crocodile-skin to his normal, pink human skin, until he pulled away. Perhaps the key to TLK working is that both parties have to want it to work. Rumple has to be willing to give up his power for true love.

I have to wonder if maybe TLK isn’t a one shot deal per curse.   Perhaps if TLK is rejected the first time around, the golden opportunity is lost.  Again, just another thought to throw into the ring.

Hmm. Maybe but why? I don’t think it’s a “use it or lose it” kind of thing. True, we haven’t seen the same happen in SB, but I think that is because the DO curse might be particular to the EF. So to recap, I suggest two caveats: (1) Both parties have to want TLK to work for it work and (2) In the case of the DO curse, Rumple has to be in the EF for it to be lifted permanently.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[RumplesGirl]

I think there are two things at play.

1) Breaking the DO curse and

2) Ensuring that Rumple lives

TLK will work but it is going to take more than that to break Rumple’s DO curse. Like I said a page back, I think it’s a mix of two things 1) Rumple choosing to try and break his curse with the ultimate sacrifice and 2) TLK

He has had TLK since magic was brought to SB (201, 222) but because he had not yet been ready to make the ultimate sacrifice, they didn’t break his curse.

Now he’s made that heroic sacrifice, but he has yet to be kissed. So both times he’s missing a key ingredient. And I think the large Rumple arc for S3B is him fighting against being controlled by Zelena because he no longer wants to be the DO and it’ll culminate in the TLK of epicness. And *that* will finally break his curse. And then S4 is about him trying to be a mortal man again.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Marty McFly]

I think you’re right. once he stopped tlk from working he lost the opportunity.

in skin deep Belle was yelling at him: “you were freeing yourself”
well, maybe he was, and maybe he really, really wanted that, but after sacrificing SO MUCH for his child to have a chance at happiness, (becoming the dark one in the first place, manipulating events and people so that the curse would happen, being alone in darkness and isolation for centuries) I don’t think he was ready to give all that up just because HE HIMSELF will have a happily ever after with his true love. this is exactly why he didn’t do this in never land, this is why he didn’t want to leave his family behind just because Pan told him that Belle is fertile and could give him a new family. he has come too far for his child.

[betsypaige24]

I think there are two things at play. 1) Breaking the DO curse and 2) Ensuring that Rumple lives TLK will work but it is going to take more than that to break Rumple’s DO curse. Like I said a page back, I think it’s a mix of two things 1) Rumple choosing to try and break his curse with the ultimate sacrifice and 2) TLK He has had TLK since magic was brought to SB (201, 222) but because he had not yet been ready to make the ultimate sacrifice, they didn’t break his curse. Now he’s made that heroic sacrifice, but he has yet to be kissed. So both times he’s missing a key ingredient. And I think the large Rumple arc for S3B is him fighting against being controlled by Zelena because he no longer wants to be the DO and it’ll culminate in the TLK of epicness. And *that* will finally break his curse. And then S4 is about him trying to be a mortal man again.

God, I’d love that…..for one thing, that kiss will be EPIC. For another, seeing Gold try to live as a mortal would be an amazing story for he and Belle – together.  He has to worry about his physical condition – who’s to say he’s in good shape? He’s 20 plus years (physically) older than Belle – he would worry about dying before her – and about being an older father.

I just hope we get an engagement and eventually a wedding. I want babies before the end of the series, so please – no last episode wedding

[harleygirl]

Good points, all around 🙂
I would like to add also-
Even though MM and David were their cursed selves in SB, their True Love still came through. They kissed many times, but the curse remained.
Emma kissed Graham. Was it True Love? Potential True Love? Because he started to remember when he kissed her, yet the curse remained.
But the Dark Curse had to be broken by Emma the Saviour. She had to kiss Henry inparticular.
Because that was written into the Dark Curse.
So, I’m thinking something similar about the Dark One Curse that would prevent or stall TLK from breaking it.
TLK only gets you so far…depending on how powerful the curse is, maybe?

[RumplesGirl]

Emma kissed Graham. Was it True Love? Potential True Love? Because he started to remember when he kissed her, yet the curse remained.

But that’s because Emma is True Love. I don’t think it has to do with Greema being True Love, but just that Emma could walk up to any of the cursed people and kiss them and cure their personal memory block. But in order to break the curse all at once it had to be TLK with Henry.

So, I’m thinking something similar about the Dark One Curse that would prevent or stall TLK from breaking it. TLK only gets you so far…depending on how powerful the curse is, maybe?

Yeah. TLK only goes so far with this curse. There has to be more to it, like you said

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

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