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October 23, 2012 at 3:27 am #135148wizard55Participant
This would probably be more appropriate toward the end of the series….but I’ve been wondering alot if we get to see how alot of these tales came to OUR world…like did a traveler who’s been to all of these different worlds pass these stories on to the Brothers Grimm, Perault, etc. or something. Even though timeline wise it doesn’t work if some of these stories were supposed to be taking place only 28 years ago, going by our world’s time. IDK,,,interesting to think about though.
[adrotate group="5"]October 23, 2012 at 8:00 am #157789PheeParticipantI’ve wondered about that too. Regarding the timeline, I don’t think that we should use 28 years as a marker. The fairytale stories happened at some point in history, potentially 100s of years ago, and the curse just happened to dump them at a certain point in time in our world, which happened to be 28 years ago.
As far as how the stories ended up in our world, I really hope they address this at some point. There had to have been someone able to go there and bring the stories back. Peter Pan could have brought the stories of Neverland, but he wouldn’t know of the stories from FTL, even if he ends up being Bae, because he lived way before these stories happened.
Maybe it was the fairies, Blue in particular, (I believe she’s the writer of the book). Peter Pan used fairy dust to fly between worlds, right? So shouldn’t actual fairies be able to fly between worlds too?
October 23, 2012 at 11:28 am #157805sarah-daye handParticipant@Phee wrote:
Maybe it was the fairies, Blue in particular, (I believe she’s the writer of the book).
I agree. I think that is what she meant when she said final preparations. I think she knew Geppetto would still send Pinocchio through and she had to have some way of telling Emma who she is and what she needs to do. Only Henry got it instead!
October 23, 2012 at 1:58 pm #157818obisgirlParticipantI like your explanation Phee.
October 23, 2012 at 3:20 pm #157827thetricksterParticipantMy first participation!! ^^
Regarding the tales, i think it could be like this:
Our world and Fairy Tales world coexist from the beginning, even if they are isolated one from the other. But, in our world, there are fairy tales all the History of humankind, so probably there should be a sort of “link”, like a window throught which some people can discern images, tales, or feelings from the other world. Maybe dreams? and thus, we have Grimms, Perraults, Andersens and so on… but as they are only brief visions, they are misunderstood, and that could be the reason for us having such a different versions of the “true” story of FairyLand inhabitants…Regarding The Book, the one that Henry has, it is of a different nature, it is what actually happened… in my opinion, it belonged to Snow in FairyTaleLand and came with her after the curse. That explain why she had it first, why it has a sort of “magic” in itself, and why it was given to Henry.
How did it came to her? maybe as a wedding gift: a tale telling all what happened before she and Charming could be together. (An excellent gift, by the way XDD )The remaining question of this theory is; who wrote it?
October 23, 2012 at 3:34 pm #157830obisgirlParticipantLinking fairytale world to the real world, through dreams. I love it. Sort of like feelings of another past life.
October 24, 2012 at 6:05 am #157915sleepless knightParticipantI’ve worked out multiple theories in my head and have decided that the portal that sent Emma here was an FTL version of Doc Brown’s DeLorean.
Since Emma was part of the counter to the curse, the curse was forced to bring everyone to our time. At least to me, it explains how we know all these stories as they were told long ago to the Brothers Grimm, Perrault, J.M. Barrie, et all and yet are coming to place here.
October 24, 2012 at 8:48 am #157919PheeParticipant@TheTrickster wrote:
Our world and Fairy Tales world coexist from the beginning, even if they are isolated one from the other. But, in our world, there are fairy tales all the History of humankind, so probably there should be a sort of “link”, like a window throught which some people can discern images, tales, or feelings from the other world. Maybe dreams? and thus, we have Grimms, Perraults, Andersens and so on… but as they are only brief visions, they are misunderstood, and that could be the reason for us having such a different versions of the “true” story of FairyLand inhabitants…
Really like this idea about dreams and visions! I’m one of those types who always has to analyse my dreams, and if I can’t remember the details of one, it’ll bug me all day long, (sometimes if I do remember the details of one, that’ll also bug me all day long…had one of those last night actually). So I’d be fascinated if they introduced that concept into the show.
Regarding The Book, the one that Henry has, it is of a different nature, it is what actually happened… in my opinion, it belonged to Snow in FairyTaleLand and came with her after the curse. That explain why she had it first, why it has a sort of “magic” in itself, and why it was given to Henry.
How did it came to her? maybe as a wedding gift: a tale telling all what happened before she and Charming could be together. (An excellent gift, by the way XDD )The thing is though, it had stories right up until the moment when Emma was born and the curse struck, so even if the book existed in some form in FTL before then, it had to have been edited after it came to our world so that that story could have been added in.
I’m sticking with the theory that Blue wrote it after getting to our world. She’s one person who was in a position to know the true details of all the stories, and if, as I suspect, she kept her memories in our world, she then wrote it all down and gave it to Mary Margaret with the intention that it would eventually end up in Henry’s hands, so he could use it as a tool to help Emma break the curse.
October 24, 2012 at 9:26 am #157925SlurpeezParticipantI like the dreams theory. Mr. Gold said to Graham in 2×7: “They say that dreams are memories, memories of another life.”
Regarding Henry’s book in particular, I think it’s most probable that the Blue Fairy is its author. She’d be in a very unique position to observe all the fairy-tales since she doesn’t age, and she sees things from the sky. She knows the wishes of all the EF characters. She knows all about portals to other worlds, since she knew about magical beans and enchanted trees. I also have a strong feeling that August/Pinocchio knows the author of the book quite well, since we saw he knew how to add his story to Henry’s book in a very precise, technical way. August and the Blue Fairy know each other quite well. (And I think they may have collaborated to bring baby Henry to SB).
Another possibility is that a realm-jumping author collected the stories and then brought the collection of stories to our realm. While I’m not sure if Jefferson could be the book’s author, he did know a lot about stories. There’s that little dialog he had with Emma in 1×17:
Jefferson: What’s a story? When you were in high school, did you learn about the Civil War?
Emma: Yeah, of course.
Jefferson: How? Did you read it per chance in a book? How is that any less real than any other book?
Emma: History books are based on history.
Jefferson: And story books are based on what? Imagination? Where does that comes from? It has to come from somewhere. You know what the issue is with this world? Everyone wants some magical solution to their problem, and everyone refuses to believe in magic.He knew about about all the different words, because he’s actually been there via his hat. Also, since he kept his true identity the entire time, Jefferson may even have given the book to Mary Margaret, in the hope that she’d give it to Henry, who in turn would contact Emma, the savior mentioned in the book. I also think that Jefferson and August are connected, since there were episode still from 1×17 of them outside Jefferson’s house. Unfortunately, that scene got cut. Jefferson and August were sort of confronting each other, which makes me think they know each other.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
October 24, 2012 at 12:22 pm #157932mikeParticipantThree big questions about the book.
1.) Who wrote it? – Possibly the Blue Fairy or Rumple.
2.) Who gave it to Mary Margret? – Blue Fairy, Rumple, Regina?
3.) Can we confirm or deny whether the book even mentions the existence of Rumple? 😮Has it been mentioned by Henry or others, if Rumple is even mentioned in the book, in any of the stories? If not, then why?
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