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November 7, 2014 at 4:07 am #289338PheeParticipant
Lila was pregnant!!! Annalise had multiple miscarriages and Lila was pregnant with Sam’s child!!! Holy crap!
That’s a lot of blood on Rebecca….
For real! So she must have been there, and close to him, when he was killed. But I dunno that I buy that she killed him. I mean, they’re still promoting the next ep like we don’t know who the killer is yet, and surely they wouldn’t just have the reveal be Rebecca blurting out that confession. She’s a pro liar. There’s no way she killed him.
Also, we now know that she knows Nate, who seemed happy to share any and all info with her. Hmmmm.
Asher cradling the Trophy. He’s a tool.
He was so beyond obnoxious in this ep.
Yeah, saw that coming; however flashing between THIS and a dead body….not exactly hot
It was all arty and junk, and I can’t help but wonder if they did it for a reason and there’s some clue we should pick up on. But yeah, not hot.
Things that ARE hot though…Oliver’s rebound guy, go Oliver! 😉
Poor Connor though, he’s got it bad for the first time ever and has no idea how to deal.
Wes going through his list of things is so….cold. Unfeeling. Like disconnected
It was a bit unsettling how casual he was about it all. Though when he said how his mother committed suicide, I wondered if that’s why he was so attracted to helping the sad, lost soul that is Rebecca in the first place, because he’s trying to make up for how he couldn’t help his mother.
[adrotate group="5"]November 7, 2014 at 1:54 pm #289389RumplesGirlKeymasterPosting for awesomeness
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 7, 2014 at 2:30 pm #289392Twice Upon A TimeParticipantAnyone notice how much blood was on Rebecca’s bra which doesn’t make sense because she’s wearing a shirt makes me think that maybe Sam was tring to push himself on her. I mean it wouldn’t be the first time. It also leads me to believe maybe Wes did it. Wes walked in on Sam trying to have his way and killed him.
The autopsy and the bedroom was super creepy but i think it was supposed to mean something like that got Lila killed is Rebecca safe?
All the students hate each other so why would they be helping each other bury the body if one of them did it-It doest make any sense
Laurel makes me so mad-her boyfriend at Legal Aid is so sweet she’s playing him for who? Super Creep Frank?
Did anyone see the preview that aired after the episode -CANNOT WAIT!!!!!
Viola Davis on Twitter asked for a one word description of the episode mine would Wanting because that’s what the episode had me doing . Wanting more. More answers More clues More episodes More Annalise
What would your 1 word description be?
November 7, 2014 at 2:56 pm #289394RumplesGirlKeymasterAnyone notice how much blood was on Rebecca’s bra which doesn’t make sense because she’s wearing a shirt makes me think that maybe Sam was tring to push himself on her. I mean it wouldn’t be the first time. It also leads me to belong maybe Wes did it. Wes walked in on Sam trying to have his way and killed him.
That’s what I am thinking at the moment. Wes killed Sam trying to defend Rebecca. The law students agreed to help because even though they all hate each other 1) Annalise might take the fall or be ruined by her murdered husband and 2) Rebecca is their client still. They have to keep her free and clean because of the Lila trial.
Viola Davis on Twitter asked for a one word description of the episode mine would Wanting because that’s what the episode had me doing . Wanting more. More answers More clues More episodes More Analise
Intrigued.
Especially by Rebecca. She’s kind of a word I can’t say here, but she’s really smart. And I think she has some sort of game going
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 7, 2014 at 6:37 pm #289409PheeParticipantAnyone notice how much blood was on Rebecca’s bra which doesn’t make sense because she’s wearing a shirt makes me think that maybe Sam was tring to push himself on her. I mean it wouldn’t be the first time. It also leads me to believe maybe Wes did it. Wes walked in on Sam trying to have his way and killed him.
I’m thinking along kinda similar lines, but substitute Wes for Nate.
It seemed that Nate and Rebecca were about to team up to bring Sam down, both of them believing that he killed Lila, (I totally think Bonnie killed Lila). So maybe they had a plan where Rebecca would go see Sam to try and get him to confess, and Nate would be outside but listening in because Rebecca had a wire to record what Sam said. Sam got aggressive, possibly in a sexual way, or maybe he figured out she was wearing a wire which is why he was all up in her clothes, maybe he ended up holding her close so he could whisper something particular menacing to her, then Nate came in and whacked him from behind, sending blood splattering forward onto her.
Now, if that were the case, I doubt the rest of them know that Nate’s involved. Rebecca probably offered to take the fall because she’s already on trial for murder anyway, (and seems to have a morbid fascination with getting into trouble), and Nate can’t afford to end up in jail, (he’d be doing all of this to try and bust a huge case and get his job back).
After Nate left, she called Wes, and she told him she did it and he believes her and is now trying to take care of everything so there’s no way for a court to prove she did it. Wes is doing it for emotional reasons, but the rest of them are helping just because Rebecca is their client and they’re still trying to get her acquitted of another murder, which will be impossible if she’s implicated in a second one.
If it IS Nate, then I’ll have to laugh, because in the very first ep Annalise said, “I bet the boyfriend did it,” to Sam as they’re watching the news report about Lila. We all automatically jumped on the, “OMG Sam was so screwing the dead girl” train after that line, but it could have been working double duty, telegraphing the fact that Annalise’s boyfriend killed Sam.
As for Lila’s murder, I think Bonnie found out about the pregnancy somehow and that was the final straw that made her kill Lila. Bonnie definitely knows what’s up with Annalise and Sam’s marriage and how it’s not all rosy. It probably frustrates her because she loves Annalise and hates seeing such a strong woman so subversive and needy where Sam’s concerned, and she knows she’ll never leave him. She’s also probably been around long enough to know about the multiple miscarriages, so if she found out that some young whore got knocked up and was gonna give Sam the child that Annalise couldn’t, Bonnie would know that that would destroy her if it happened, so Lila had to be removed ASAP.
Laurel makes me so mad-her boyfriend at Legal Aid is so sweet she’s playing him for who? Super Creep Frank?
For real! Her boyfriend is the best in pretty much every way and doesn’t deserve to be treated like that. If she’s just gonna toss him away, can she at least give me his number?
What would your 1 word description be?
You’ve seen how long my responses can get in this thread and you expect me to sum up an ep in one word? LOL Does O________O count as a “word”? Because that’s what I looked like from the moment it started. Someone on the AfterBuzz podcast said their word for it would be “messy”, and I kinda like that because it works both literally and figuratively.
November 7, 2014 at 6:47 pm #289410PheeParticipantEspecially by Rebecca. She’s kind of a word I can’t say here, but she’s really smart. And I think she has some sort of game going
She’s so clued in to everything and everyone around her. It was pretty brilliant how she played Laurel and Michaela. It does make you wonder what’s really going on inside her head if she’s constantly observing and filing away all the little bits of info she picks up. Does she just gather things up in case they’ll come in handy, or is she actively searching for specific info to help a premeditated plan she has?
November 7, 2014 at 8:04 pm #289422Twice Upon A TimeParticipantHTGATM is one of the only shows I have to take notes for here is my super long ongoing timeline for anyone that cares I think the part in the bold is the most interesting
Wes enters Annalise’s class off the wait list
Lila Stangard is currently declared missing
The entire class begins work on the Asprin Assassin case
The class meets Bonnie and Frank at Annalise’s house while briefing for the case
Wes meets Rebecca when he asks her to turn down her music while he’s working on an assignment for Annalise
Wes notices the strange marks on his bed for the first time
The students are doing the 1 minute defense exercise and Annalise gives her That’s how you get away with murder speech
Wes runs to Annalise’s house when he realizes something catches her in the act with Nate
All the students are trying to impress Annalise and cause Connor to meet Oliver for the first time – cue sexy time
Annalise uses the info Connor gets to her advantage
Wes comes back home from court and sees Griffin rush out of Rebecca’s apartment
That night at the Deans party Wes meets Sam who he realizes is Annalise’s husband and that She’s cheating on him with Nate
Annalise and Wes have that super creepy interaction
Laurel and Frank interact for the first time there’s a super creepy click that happens between them and Bonnie tells him to stop screwing with the students
Bonnie seems jealous of Sam and Annalise but the Yale interview comes up for the first time
Annalise has Nate lie in court and is put on probation
Annalise wins the case and picks Laurel Connor Asher Michaela and Wes to join her “firm” and Connor wins the trophy
Wes confronts her about committing perjury and Annalise shuts him down
Lila Stangard is found in the water tank
Annalise and Sam are watching the news cast of Lila’s case and Annalise finds out Lila was Sam’s student
2 weeks later
Sam walks in on Annalise reading about the Lila Stangard case and remarks about how all that time in the water tank must have killed all the evidence Annalise looks suspicious
Annalise gives her class lecture about how it doesn’t matter what she thinks about the murder their priority is to get the defendant off
Connor loses the trophy
Annalise introduces the St. Vincent case
Annalise and her employees plus Bonnie and Frank go to the crime scene
Max St. Vincent confess to killing his wife
Annalise sends Wes to do something the other 4 are confused as to why Wes is there
Wes is studying the case and Rebecca comes over to use his shower presumably leaving Lila’s phone there
The next morning Wes is watching the news where Lila’s death is declared homicide The suspect is Griffin who he remembers leaving Rebecca apartment
At court its revealed the St Vincent murdered his first wife
Annalise looks up emails on Sam’s phone from Lila and finds a couple opens one that’s signed L She asks Sam if he slept with Lila Sam says no
Annalise wins the case by using Laurel’s defense that Max was a hunter and would have killed his wife a lot cleaner than he did
Annalise checks Sam’s phone again all the Lila messages have been deleted
Annalise asks Nate to check if Sam’s alibi checks out Nate tells Annalise that they are over but agrees
Wes sees Rebecca being arrested tells her not to say anything finds the phone
2 weeks later
Aiden and Michaela are in bed together when she gets a call about a new case
Aiden drops Michaela off at Annalise’s Connor and Aiden realize they know each other Connor tells Aiden that they have more in common then they thought
Annalise is being forced to take Griffin ‘s case by the Dean she doesn’t want to get involved until she knows Sam is not involved
Griffin is pinning the whole thing on Rebecca at the briefing Wes is concerned
Annalise picks up Paula Murphy’s case -super boring
Wes realizes that the phone was actually Lila’s when he gets a call on it
Wes needing to talk to Rebecca fakes a ID card and goes to visit Rebecca where she freaks and calls security and Wes is arrested
At the bar Connor tells Michaela that he and Aiden used to date this make Michaela really upset
Also at the bar Laurel hooks up cute kid from Legal Aid and Frank sees
Annalise bails Wes out of jail and Wes tells her that Rebecca is innocent and asks her to take her case because otherwise she has nobody unlike Griffin who can afford any lawyer he wants
Nate comes to tell Annalise the stuff he found out about Sam tells her a lie about the alibi checking out
Annalise tells Nate she misses him Nate doesn’t reciprocate the affection
Annalise’s case is put on hold because the client goes missing
The next day Wes is given the trophy for standing up for someone and Annalise announces she has taken Rebecca’s case
At the jail Rebecca is revealed to have just confessed
1 week later
Cute IT guy Oliver asks Connor if they could be more couple-y
Connor is late for court while Annalise is unable to bring Rebecca’s bail price lower
Annalise questions Wes about Rebecca Wes lies about the phone
Wes is taken off the case for indirectly causing Rebecca to confess
Annalise picks up Mareen Trudeau’s case about the insider trading
Annalise orders her staff to question Mareen’s employees
Connor and the assistant get dirty and Connor gets the info he needs
They confront Pax the assistant and he kills himself
Annalise gets the other two people to confess and they are arrested
Connor is at Oliver’s and Oliver hears the tape on his phone and kicks him out
Annalise asks for Bonnie to get the full version of Rebecca’s confession
Bonnie is unsuccessful at doing so
Laurel’s new beau is asked to come over and help with Rebecca’s bail Frank is not pleased
Sam catches Nate snooping around in his car and Nate tells him he was just closing the door Bonnie sees this
Bonnie uses the new information about Nate to blackmail the police to get the confession tape
Annalise is able to prove Rebecca was coerced and her bail is reduced
Wes gives Annalise the phone after he is able to get Rebecca to tell him how to unlock it he sees the pictures and gives it to Annalise who puts him back on the case to gain Rebecca’s trust
Annalise sees the pictures on the phone and confronts Sam
Sam admits to the affair and Annalise orders him to leave
Bonnie overhears and she and Sam share a look
Annalise takes the case of Ryan who kills his father to protect his mother from his abuse
Annalise teaches her class about jury selection and Laurel creates an emotional scorecard
The prosecution ask that any mention of abuse be left out of the case the judge agrees and Annalise is in trouble
The only way to win this case is to have the abuse and Ryan’s blog a part of the evidence and so the crew is put to work on bringing the blog into evidence by the prosecution Laurel finds a way
During the trial Connor is able to prove that one of the jurors were biased and he was taken off the stand but it wasn’t enough to win
Laurel realizes the only way to win is by telling someone in the jury about jury nullification which is illegal but she still does it and Frank sees her
Frank tells Annalise and Annalise tells the court
Ryan’s trial becomes a mistrial and the trial is sent to juvenile court and Ryan is no longer looking at life in jail
This sparks Laurel and Frank’s relationship and they kiss Laurel stops anything else from happening and rushes to cute guy at Legal Aid to blow off some sexual tension
1 week later
Nate tells Annalise the truth about the alibi and that he no longer believes her because he thinks she turned him in
Sam comes back home and says that he did skip Yale because he was afraid she was going to hurt herself but he didn’t kill her
Annalise brings Rebecca in for a “psych evaluation” with her husband but really it’s to make sure she doesn’t recognize Sam
After the evaluation Rebecca asks Wes why he’s helping her he tells her he doesn’t want Rebecca to go to jail for something she didn’t do
Rebecca asks to go the bathroom She sees that the wallpaper matches the wallpaper in the picture and runs away
Rebecca tells Wes what she found out over the phone and confronts Annalise about it he finds out that Sam is Mr Darcy
Wes runs out after he realizes that Annalise does is lie
Wes doesn’t come to class the next day and the statue is in his place
Annalise reveals that she has been offered the ability to appeal David Allen’s death roll case
Annalise shows up to Wes’s apartment and asks him what he wants he tells her he wants her to get Rebecca back
Annalise has Frank find her but not talk to her
While studying the case it is revealed that the judge that presided over the case was Asher’s dad
Wes returns to the office
While questioning the last prosecution attorney they find out that the last trial involved perjured evidence
Asher realizes his father may have been the reason David Allen was misjudged the first tim and decides to snoop around his dad’s office where he finds a missing entry in his father’s journal
Asher confronts his father and Judge Millstone throws him out of the house
Before telling Annalise the truth he demands two things that his father not be involved in the case and he gets the trophy
Everyone gets to work on trying to find something on Art Trucco in the midst of late night working Laurel asks Frank where his going Frank doest tell her but they flirt a bit
Bonnie tells Laurel to stop stringing Frank along
Frank puts the phone in Griffin’s car unbeknownst to him he’s caught on camera by Nate
Asher realizes that the eyewitness that was used to convict Allen was living in a building owned by Art Trucco and they finally had a case
Laurel tells Frank that they mean nothing and Frank is heartbroken
“Someone” tips the police about the phone in Griffin’s car and Rebecca is free to come back
2 weeks later
The relationship between Rebecca and Griffin is out and it’s on the news
Annalise goes to court for a gag order
At court Griffin’s attorney asked to have Lila’s body exhumed
Because having Lila’s body exhumed would mean the murder being pinned on Rebecca the crew tries to find away to keep the body from being exhumed
The ADA gives Annalise a way to keep the body from being exhumed and Annalise presents it in court
Sam tells Annalise that Lila’s parents didn’t trust Griffin
Annalise has Frank and Laurel convince Lila’s parents to speak out against the exhumation
Lila’s mother testifies against the exhumation her speech causes Rebecca to cry
But the ADA double crosses Annalise and orders for a exhumation
Unsure about what to do Annalise has Connor Asher and Wes corner the assistant who spills and tells them that it’s a plea deal Griffin goes free and the prosecution gets a verdict
Annalise uses the new info to her advantage and has Rebecca leak that she was “raped”
Meanwhile Connor returns to Oliver’s to beg for forgiveness where he realizes that Oliver moved on
Michaela is called to an attorney’s office for what turns out to be a pre nup
The court calls for the exhumation but it forces the plea deal to be taken off the table
After the court hearing Rebecca confronts Wes about why her case matters so much to him and then she kisses him and this kiss leads to creepiest bedroom scene ever starting their relationship
During this Frank confronts Laurel about her thinking about leaving Annalise for a job working for her cute boyfriend at Legal Aid and Laurel tells his she doesn’t want him to forget about her and they hook up
Later or the next night Nate confronts Rebecca at a convince store and he wants her to work with him to get Sam convicted
Annalise and Sam are about to work out when Bonnie knocks on their door
The new autopsy revealed that the marks were just ant bites but Lila was 6 weeks pregnant
2 weeks later (the night of the murder)
Asher realizes that his trophy is missing while is on the phone with probably Bonnie and has reason to believe that Michaela took it
Sam is killed this results in a very bloody Rebecca and the rest of the gang to be a the murder scene
Michaela is having a panic attack
Asher knocks on Annalise’s door he’s seen Connor’s car and knows he’s in there he knows Michaela’s in there too until she texts him and tells him she’s at the library
Wes drops Rebecca off to a hotel room and meets the other 4 in the woods where the flip a coin to decide what to do with the body
Wes lies about the coin toss and they decide to go back for the body
Michaela breaks down and Laurel has the idea of going to the bonfire for an alibi
The 4 go to the bonfire and take a bunch of pictures
They return to the body
Connor Laurel and Wes clean up the murder scene and Michaela looks away not wanting to be involved
They wrap the body in the rug but are unable to carry it and Michaela begrudgingly agrees
They are almost out the door when a police officer asks Connor why his car is blocking the road Connor says he’ll move it when the police officer asks why their walking out of Annalise’s house
Michaela lies that Annalise wanted them to take an old rug to the bonfire after asking a couple more questions and Laurel lying about why Annalise couldn’t talk on the phone the officer leaves
The four get Sam’s body into the car and are looking for a convenience store to get lighter fluid and matches
They see Asher right in front of them talking to who is later revealed to be Bonnie on the phone about meeting up that night
Meanwhile Rebecca is at the hotel and very scared she calls 9-1-1 and then says its a prank call and hangs up
The 4 stop at a convenience store Wes goes in to buy the stuff and uses another phone to call Rebecca and tells her they’re going to protect her
Wes returns to the car and bought extra stuff to keep him from looking suspicious
The bring the body back to woods where they get ready to burn it
They hear some people and hide but Frank calls Laurel which causes the couple in the forest to run away
Michaela tells Laurel to pick up the phone because it strengthens their alibi Laurel tells Frank that they’re at the bonfire Frank tell Laurel he’ll do anything
They burn the body and put the remains into bags
While getting ready to leave Michaela realizes she lost her engagement ring
Sometime late Wes returns to Rebecca they kiss and he tells her she’s okay now
Connor breaks down in front of Oliver’s apartment
Laurel decides to take Frank up on his offer to do anything and asks Frank to get the trophy back to Asher somehow
November 8, 2014 at 1:02 am #289433PheeParticipantTwice, I love you for taking all those notes! After the premiere I said to myself, “I should take notes on this whole show in a case book or I’ll never be able to keep everything straight,” and you actually did it!
Just one little thing to correct…
Asher realizes that his trophy is missing while is on the phone with probably Bonnie and has reason to believe that Michaela took it
…he wasn’t on the phone the Bonnie. I only know this because I specifically went back to check last week if he said anything specific or important that would have given away exactly who he was talking to because I was thinking it was Bonnie as well. When he answers the phone the first thing he says is, “Alicia.”
November 13, 2014 at 10:59 pm #290111RumplesGirlKeymasterHere we go!
–I need a witness here….
–Raise your hand if you believe Sam….*nothing*
–Whoa….ok, going off my sleeping pills.
–“Wanna sneak upstairs?” Oh Frank. You’re cute but a creep.
–Any chance we can kill Asher?
–Wes! Good job! You win for tonight….jeez.
–Okay then. Rebecca continues to move down on my “ugh” list
–Lila is kind of annoying, no?
–I watch CourtTV
–Oh dear…..”we loved each other”
–*snap* pathetic mousey presence
–“Makes it more fun”…..and steam time
–Sad Annalise makes me sad! However…Annalise you were having an affair too….
–Sex bad, drugs good? Lila is also a hypocrite.
–Connor….?
–“Dude I know you’re gay” LOL
–OHMAILORD. THIS FAMILY
–#Boom
–Future mother in law randomly shows up cause she’s obviously crazy
–DANG. What is this woman?!
–“Hi there” And…you are?
–AAAAAAAAH. Sam is basically SCUM
— I need a flow chart for who is doing whom
–Wait. Did Bonnie just….?
–Oh. Kay. Did not see that coming from Bonnie
–ACK. Annalise!
–Oooooooooh Mikelea
—GO ANNALISE!!!! (Sam. You be SCREWED)
–NEXT WEEK
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 13, 2014 at 11:53 pm #290116PheeParticipantThis ep felt kinda slow going at the start, like it was just filling in some gaps and stuff, the calm before the storm next week.
But when they started showing stuff on murder night I got all excited like, “OMG WE’VE ARRIVED,” and just seeing Sam come home on that night made me all giddy because it felt like every step he was just getting closer to his doom and my heart started racing a bit and OMG I CAN’T WAIT FOR NEXT WEEK.
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