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On Once Upon a Time Season 2, Episode 17: “Welcome to Storybrooke” we learned why Regina (Lana Parrilla) decided to adopt Henry (Jared Gilmore). However, the why does not explain how she did it, and several episodes later we’re still trying to wrap our head around the logistics of getting a baby into a magical, invisible town.
Let’s review what we know. Mr. Gold (Robert Carlyle) is the one who procured Henry for Regina (per a conversation in Season 1, Episode 2). However, apparently Rumplestiltskin did not have his pre-curse memories until Emma (Jennifer Morrison) showed up, and as far as we know no one who’s been cursed could leave the town, anyway. Furthermore, as “Welcome to Storybrooke” proved, Storybrooke not only can’t be seen by outsiders, but as far as the rest of the world was concerned, it didn’t exist until the curse broke.
So, this raises several questions. If Mr. Gold really didn’t remember his life as Rumple, how did he find and pick Henry, specifically? And how in the world did Gold or anyone manage to get Henry adopted into a town that does not exist? Legally it makes no sense, and even on a practical level level, no one from the outside world could physically bring Henry to town.
To us, this suggests that there must be another fairy tale character involved, somehow. Even if we say that the curse was designed to make sure Henry got to Storybrooke, or that his coming to the town was all “fate,” and even if we assume that Gold arranged to get Henry on the black market so that the non-existence of Storybrooke isn’t an issue, someone had to bring Henry to town.
For a while, we thought August might be the key, but it seems like he left America right after Emma was put in jail — though we could be wrong about that. But if he was the answer, don’t you think that would have been mentioned in Season 2, Episode 18: “Selfless, Brave, and True”?
What’s your theory about how Henry wound up in a town that didn’t exist? Was it an outside job? Pure magic and fate? Some mix of the two? Sound off in the comments below!
[adrotate group="5"]My theory for the longest time was that it was the BF and August. I still think August could be involved because he may have come back to America at some point (I know I know..it’s a stretch) but it’s looking less likely for the Blue Fairy.
If it is another fairy tale character involved here my possibilities:
–White Rabbit (for reasons 😆 )
–The Pied Piper??"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Well, for what it’s worth the internet does seem to work within Storybrooke. This is how Henry was able to find Emma in the first place. I’m not saying Gold went to fatedchildren.net and picked out a boy, but it does stand to reason that even if the outside world doesn’t come to Storybrooke (and nobody leaves) there is some amount of communication. Now, people can wander onto the map of Storybrooke, yes? Say into some of the forests- they just don’t see the town? Or if someone tried to walk across the town line would they be blown back? (I think maybe it’s implied that they just don’t see the town? Like it’s hidden from their views?) So I guess a possible (but needlessly complicated) possibility is Gold played it all shady. Made contact with someone who had access to children and had them “make a drop” out in the woods, pick up their cash and go. Then he went and retrieved Henry? (Aw, I just had a sort of cute thought of Gold spending an hour or two with baby Henry before he takes him to Regina. D’awwww.)
The thing that gets me really pondering is how a town like Storybrooke exists without imports from outside the town. Do they grow all their own food? Was the curse just magically replenishing the stores in Granny’s restaurant over the 28 years so it seemed like no time passed? Does that mean that they’re running low on supplies now that the curse is broken? Cue post-apocalyptic scenario!
Edit: One of my pet theories (honestly, I’m like the crazy cat lady of pet theories) is Rumple was the Pied Piper in FTL. XD I just think he’d look cool in that cloak.
"Nothing is easier than to denounce the evildoer; nothing is more difficult than to understand him."
Or if someone tried to walk across the town line would they be blown back
After Welcome to Storybrooke a few people threw around the idea that the town was out of sync with the rest of the world. So when someone went down that stretch of highway they just went down a stretch of highway, passing through where the town would be, but not actually through the town. Greg said something similar to this when he tells Regina that he’s driven down the highway looking for this town for a long time. So when the Curse was lifted in A Land Without Magic the town was put back into sync with the rest of the world and that is how outsiders were able to find it.
The thing that gets me really pondering is how a town like Storybrooke exists without imports from outside the town. Do they grow all their own food? Was the curse just magically replenishing the stores in Granny’s restaurant over the 28 years so it seemed like no time passed? Does that mean that they’re running low on supplies now that the curse is broken? Cue post-apocalyptic scenario!
Questions like this have long plagued us but I think this is the consensus that I’ve seen: the Curse was designed to keep them all insular but alive. There is no point in them all dying from starvation before the end of year one, that wouldn’t be the victory Regina imagined. So, the town itself was self sustaining. No food ever came in from the outside but Curse provided for them, ensured they had everything to live what they deemed to be an ordinary life for the rest of time. When the Curse broke, I assume scarcity would eventually become an issues, but I think time wise, it hasn’t been that long since the end of S1. Plus, now that magic can be created in SB, those who are so inclined and have the ability could make their own food. Not to mention that food can now be shipped in.
Edit: One of my pet theories (honestly, I’m like the crazy cat lady of pet theories) is Rumple was the Pied Piper in FTL. XD I just think he’d look cool in that cloak.
In the original costuming of Rumple, Eduardo designed a really elaborate hood/cape (sort of medieval) but A and E thought it didn’t fit with what they had planned for him so they told Eduardo to “make him a rock star” which is why he has much leather and crocodile like clothes. We still don’t know why Rumple wanted Ella’s baby so they could tie it in (though my personal theory is that he never wanted the baby at all. What he wanted was to be locked in the jail cell until the Curse hit and this was how he set out to accomplish that)
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Ok, I’m just commenting on what I read here…and replying what I think…
Rumplestiltzkins built in the curse that he would retain his memories. I honestly think August helped get Henry in to storybrooke, in my head he feels bad for going off his path to help Emma get on her path as savior. Here are some theories, did August write the book, and hopes Henry would understand everything in it and therefore search out his birth mother, and fulfill August promise? Now I don’t unsterstand myself how August got in touch with rumplestiltzkins, maybe during the end of season 1 when he was the mysterious man on the motorcycle, he was afraid rumple would have recognized him. As far as getting Henry in to the town, I think Regina can change the view of the town, from viewable to not viewable, and he was simply brought in. Without anyone having to leave.
I don’t know, just my thoughts…
@OnceABeliver wrote:
Ok, I’m just commenting on what I read here…and replying what I think…
Rumplestiltzkins built in the curse that he would retain his memories. I honestly think August helped get Henry in to storybrooke, in my head he feels bad for going off his path to help Emma get on her path as savior. Here are some theories, did August write the book, and hopes Henry would understand everything in it and therefore search out his birth mother, and fulfill August promise? Now I don’t unsterstand myself how August got in touch with rumplestiltzkins, maybe during the end of season 1 when he was the mysterious man on the motorcycle, he was afraid rumple would have recognized him. As far as getting Henry in to the town, I think Regina can change the view of the town, from viewable to not viewable, and he was simply brought in. Without anyone having to leave.
I don’t know, just my thoughts…
First, welcome to the forums!
All good questions. Rumple did ensure that he would get his memories back once he heard Emma say her name (hence writing it over and over in the cell with the squid ink) but until that moment, he did believe himself to be Mr. Gold. Therefore, while we know that Gold did get Henry for Regina, Rumple didn’t know anything about it. I still think August had a part in it, as you point out. I’m not sure about the book, though. My theory was that it was the Blue Fairy who wrote the book and it came with everyone through to SB where Mother Superior gave it to Mary Margaret, though she wasn’t sure why.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I don’t think anyone had anything to do with other than Regina contacting the outside world and then having Gold procure a child for her. The fact that the child was Henry was inevitable as the curse has a mind of its own and knows what it needs to do. Magic simply begets magic. Emma is the product of magic and Henry is a bi-product. The curse instinctively drew them in. Just as August had no choice but to seek Emma out when she was with Neal. Just as Neal had no choice but to meet Emma and pair up with her. There is just no escaping a magical curse, that has a mind of its own as it is magical fate, and that is why, all magic comes with a price. Because the curse knows and reacts.
Rumple himself said it best. It was fate.
Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.
@TheGoldenKey wrote:
I don’t think anyone had anything to do with other than Regina contacting the outside world and then having Gold procure a child for her. The fact that the child was Henry was inevitable as the curse has a mind of its own and knows what it needs to do. Magic simply begets magic. Emma is the product of magic and Henry is a bi-product. The curse instinctively drew them in. Just as August had no choice but to seek Emma out when she was with Neal. Just as Neal had no choice but to meet Emma and pair up with her. There is just no escaping a magical curse, that has a mind of its own as it is magical fate, and that is why, all magic comes with a price. Because the curse knows and reacts.
Rumple himself said it best. It was fate.
While I agree with some of the things you said, like it’s fate and magic begets magic, I think there is a much larger story to tell about this adoption, especially given A and E’s comments about how they’re saving it for S3. It seems to me that each time someone asks they say that it’s something they want to explore, which I think signals that there is more than just Regina finding a child in the real world. So while I do agree that the baby being Henry was fate, I think fate may have had some help.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"@thelonebamf wrote:
I’m not saying Gold went to fatedchildren.net and picked out a boy,
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but it does stand to reason that even if the outside world doesn’t come to Storybrooke (and nobody leaves) there is some amount of communication. Now, people can wander onto the map of Storybrooke, yes? Say into some of the forests- they just don’t see the town? Or if someone tried to walk across the town line would they be blown back? (I think maybe it’s implied that they just don’t see the town? Like it’s hidden from their views?) So I guess a possible (but needlessly complicated) possibility is Gold played it all shady. Made contact with someone who had access to children and had them “make a drop” out in the woods, pick up their cash and go. Then he went and retrieved Henry? (Aw, I just had a sort of cute thought of Gold spending an hour or two with baby Henry before he takes him to Regina. D’awwww.)
This would work for me. The fact that they’ve used the word “procured” more than once to describe how Gold got Henry definitely suggests that it was a shady deal. The type of people who deal in the illegal baby trade would totally play along with a baby drop off in the woods, and would also be fine with not seeing the person they were handing the baby over to, coz they don’t care as long as they get their money. If Gold was able to communicate with such people via the internets, then he could have paid them online and told them to just drop the kid in a certain spot that would exist in both worlds, like a distinctive rock or tree just on the SB side of the border.
RG- The “rock star” bit is the cutest thing I’ve read all day. Ugh. That’s adorable. Pardon me while I contemplate this to a point of understanding…
… okay, better. I think that between having 250+ years of life experience and Seer abilities, there’s not a lot Rumple did at that point in his… career that wasn’t planned. No offense to Cinderella and Snow but he’s outsmarted people far more clever than they.
Phee- Heck, maybe it was *the* tree? (Is that within Storybrooke grounds?) Maybe that’s just a hot spot for baby drops. (Actually, I don’t think we have any reason to believe anywhere near there.)
"Nothing is easier than to denounce the evildoer; nothing is more difficult than to understand him."
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