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February 18, 2013 at 2:47 am #173836SlurpeezParticipant
@RumplesGirl wrote:
What if it’s NOT Henry. The seer wasn’t specific, just like she was vague on the details the first time around. It’s possible that it’s not Henry.
Well, the seer did say it was the boy who would lead Rumple back to Baelfire. From what we’ve seen so far, it was Henry who lead Emma back to SB, and she eventually lead Rumple back to his son. However, it would be an interesting twist if it were August who would lead to Rumple’s undoing, since he could be the one to have brought baby Henry to SB in the first place, which set in motion Emma coming 10 years later to break the dark curse. Plus, there're spoiler images of August turning back into a boy in 2×19.
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February 18, 2013 at 2:49 am #173837RumplesGirlKeymasterAh. It was Henry who led Emma to SB BUT it was August who got Neal away from Emma when she was pregnant and in jail that lead her to give up Henry who then got Emma to come back. I think we have to look at the whole history of Emma/Henry/August/Bae
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"February 18, 2013 at 3:24 am #173857Killian JonesParticipantI’m really anxious to see how Rumple and Henry’s relationship will be now with what they just learned and with what Rumple vowed probably in the back of his mind. I don’t think Rumple will hurt Henry now he may even see Henry as a way to make up what he lost with Bae. Henry is gonna be in the middle of his father trying to reconcile with him while trying to make up his mother while his grandfather is trying to make up his father it’s really gonna be some kind of crazy. And the cherry on top? Hook is still gonna come after Rumple and Bae is freaking Peter Pan
February 18, 2013 at 3:26 am #173860sarah_tnParticipant@steliokontos1 wrote:
I’m really anxious to see how Rumple and Henry’s relationship will be now with what they just learned and with what Rumple vowed probably in the back of his mind. I don’t think Rumple will hurt Henry now he may even see Henry as a way to make up what he lost with Bae. Henry is gonna be in the middle of his father trying to reconcile with him while trying to make up his mother while his grandfather is trying to make up his father it’s really gonna be some kind of crazy.
An interesting idea: What if “undoing” doesn’t have to mean “death”? What if Henry’s role leads to the Dark One’s undoing, but not Rumple’s?
February 18, 2013 at 3:39 am #173874Killian JonesParticipant@Sarah_TN wrote:
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An interesting idea: What if “undoing” doesn’t have to mean “death”? What if Henry’s role leads to the Dark One’s undoing, but not Rumple’s?
What the seer said could mean anything he took it to mean death but it doesn’t need to mean that whatever it is I don’t see him hurting Bae’s son
February 18, 2013 at 3:45 am #173879RumplesGirlKeymaster@Sarah_TN wrote:
@steliokontos1 wrote:
I’m really anxious to see how Rumple and Henry’s relationship will be now with what they just learned and with what Rumple vowed probably in the back of his mind. I don’t think Rumple will hurt Henry now he may even see Henry as a way to make up what he lost with Bae. Henry is gonna be in the middle of his father trying to reconcile with him while trying to make up his mother while his grandfather is trying to make up his father it’s really gonna be some kind of crazy.
An interesting idea: What if “undoing” doesn’t have to mean “death”? What if Henry’s role leads to the Dark One’s undoing, but not Rumple’s?
I was thinking along the same lines and I really like this idea but I don’t know HOW it works because there are two ways for Rumple to stop being the Dark One that we know of:
1) TLK with Belle (as seen in Skin Deep)
2) Killing him with the Dagger
I know the Seer said there was more to Henry but how does he end the Dark One’s curse??"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"February 18, 2013 at 3:51 am #173882MatthewPaulModeratorI think what will happen is Cora will want Henry out of the way, because just like Daniel he is a “weakness” to Regina. Cora thinks power is the only true source of happiness, and she also wants Regina to herself. In order to protect Henry from Cora, Rumple could somehow sacrifice his Dark One powers, most likely via True Love’s Kiss from Belle and perhaps also winning back Bae’s respect for him. Rumple needs to choose who he truly loves over his addiction to magic.
February 18, 2013 at 3:55 am #173887beastwhispererParticipantMaybe the TLK that saves Rumple is from family like when Emma saved Henry with TLK. Henry could come to love Grandpastiltskin or restore Bae’s love. Or Henry could help restore Belle’s memory somehow.
February 18, 2013 at 4:34 am #173916MyrilParticipantInteresting how many seem to first think of Rumple possibly dying when hearing what the seer says.
But undoing, to undo has nothing to do with dying or death.
It means:
– to reverse an action or its effects, to cancel, annul something
– cause the ruin or downfall of (undoing what someone as acheived)
– cause to become loose, unfastenSo, no, I don’t think the seer was talking of death, no matter how cryptic seers tend to be with their prophecies. But sometimes we hear what we fear the most, or what we want to hear, we don’t really care to listen. It will be the undoing of Dark One Rumplestiltskin but not the death of Rumplestiltskin.
That Dark One Rumplestiltskin might not have liked to hear to be undone in the future is no surprise, he likes the power magic offers, the feeling of being untouchable, scary for others but not scared by others anymore, respected out of fear. And it’s no surprise either, that the very first thing he thinks of is to kill whoever looks like a threat.
But some time has gone by since then, and though Rumple / Mr Gold is still somewhat of a fool, he had some hundred years to learn to be a tad more cautious about whatever the future seems to tell.
It’s a puzzle – and don’t we love puzzles 😉
And I agree with those questioning, if the seer actually was talking about Henry. We shouldn’t be all sure about that.
As we shouldn’t be too sure, that there are just two ways to break the curse of the Dark one. Maybe there is another option besides killing him with the dagger or redeeming him through true love’s kiss. Not that I can think of any right now, but just because so far only these two ways are known doesn’t mean, there are just these two options.
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February 18, 2013 at 4:45 am #173919PheeParticipantI love the idea that the “undoing” is actually the positive thing of ending the Dark One curse. We hear “undoing” and we instantly think, “Someone’s getting corrupted or killed,” but the Dark One being corrupted, actually means he becomes a good guy again.
And the idea that she meant someone other than Henry, possibly August, is all sorts of intriguing! Hmmmm.
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