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February 27, 2013 at 5:38 pm #175768obisgirlParticipant
@RumplesGirl wrote:
i don’t know if the the “tree is Pinocchio” thing is real and serious or not. I can’t decide. But mostly I’m laughing hysterically.
I don’t think the tumblr poster wasn’t being serious. 😆
[adrotate group="5"]February 27, 2013 at 6:21 pm #175773laurieanneParticipantThat “Pinocchio tree” post made my day.
February 27, 2013 at 6:30 pm #175775obisgirlParticipant😀
February 27, 2013 at 7:43 pm #175791schmackyParticipant@RumplesGirl wrote:
i don’t know if the the “tree is Pinocchio” thing is real and serious or not. I can’t decide. But mostly I’m laughing hysterically.
Hehe I was totally not serious in that post…. but a part of me is. Is that bad? lol Seriously, like a tiny part of me thinks maybe it could be real. Or at the very least, a part of me thinks these writers might actually go someplace weird like that.
February 27, 2013 at 8:11 pm #175793PriceofMagicParticipant@Gypsy wrote:
In the Disney film, when Jiminy opens the book to tell the story of Pinocchio, there are two other books visible on the shelf.
One is Peter Pan and the other is Alice in Wonderland.
So, there’s is a connection between the 3 stories – Pinocchio, Peter Pan, Alice in Wonderland.We know August knows Neal/Bae and, if suspicions are correct, Peter Pan.
We know there is some connection between Neal/Bea and Alice in Wonderland – we have the Cleaner’s and Hatter’s sign and the monacles in his apartment and there’s an Alice In Wonderland statue in Central Park.So, I believe Neal/Bae knows Jefferson. I believe they met in Neverland at some point before the curse. Being that Bae (PP) was probably jumping between our world and Neverland for centuries, at this point, he already had his our world alias (Neal Cassady) and told Jefferson what his name was. Jefferson knows everything about Bae and probably Rumple and what happened between them – could be part of the falling out Rumple and Jefferson had and partly why Jefferson stopped his ‘work’ with Rumple (along with whatever happened to Grace’s mother).
So, let’s just say – Pinocchio knows Peter Pan, The Mad Hatter knows Peter Pan and I think The Mad Hatter and Pinocchio know each other, also.
I think August made at least one other trip to Storybrooke, prior to when we see him arrive in True North.
I think it was before he ran into Neal/Bae.
During that trip, August meets up with Jefferson. Jefferson tells him about Neal/Bae. August goes in search of him and finds Emma.
When August returns to Storybrooke, 10 yrs later, he reconnects with Jefferson. Jefferson tells him about the book, because Jefferson wrote it (which is another theory, entirely).They work together, August adds his story – at Jefferson’s house – he’s clearly not at his room at Granny’s when he does this.
Jefferson is the one that tells August about the dagger.
Jefferson is the one August is talking to on the phone when he says they have to excelerate the plan.
August and Jefferson are the only 2 ppl in SB that are shown actively trying to convince Emma to believe.
There are also deleted scenes showing August at Jefferson’s house.Isn’t part of the reason they’re thinking about recasting Jefferson, besides the spin off, because Jefferson is required for some important scenes in later episodes this season and Sebastian Stan wasn’t available?
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Keeper of FelixFebruary 27, 2013 at 11:39 pm #175825raulybarraParticipantI can buy the idea that Blue is involved. As I’ve said in my own reviews, I believe there is far more to her than meets the eye. That, though, begs the question of how she could have passed the information along. Remember, she was under the curse herself when all this was happening. I don’t personally buy the idea that she kept her memories. Even Rumpel had to program a trigger into the curse to get his returned before it was broken.
Still, perhaps there’s a simpler answer. We can deduce that even though August “left” Emma, he stayed on mission. He didn’t start reverting to wood until the course of events in season 1, according to his account. That’s what brought him back, remember?
So if we have August still doing what he is supposed to be doing, he’s seeing Emma seriously involved with someone in a manner that could jeopardize her role as savior. If it were me, I’d be researching the heck out of this Neal guy. Somehow he managed to work out the connection.
But how???
Same question can be asked regarding August’s knowledge about the dagger. It seems reasonable now that he did not get it from Neal. I think this is going to all tie into the book. How did he get the book? Who wrote it, if he didn’t? How did he know everything in it if he did? (after all, there’s an awful lot of detail for such a young boy as when he left) While I like Gypsy’s theory on the book, I will have to think about that a bit before I’m willing to buy in. Boy, though… it does have an appeal…
Hmm… did I say “simpler” at this beginning of this???
February 28, 2013 at 4:04 am #175861PheeParticipant@PriceofMagic wrote:
Isn’t part of the reason they’re thinking about recasting Jefferson, besides the spin off, because Jefferson is required for some important scenes in later episodes this season and Sebastian Stan wasn’t available?
The impression I got from the article was that Sebastian wouldn’t be able to commit to the spinoff, so they wanted to recast Jefferson for an appearance at the end of this season, so that then that actor will have been introduced on Once, before they throw him into being the lead of the spinoff. I didn’t get the impression that Sebastian wouldn’t be available to shoot an ep for the end of season 2, it’s just that they’re planning long term, and if they wanna get a Hatter pilot done by next season, they’ve gotta change the Hatter’s face before the end of this season.
March 1, 2013 at 7:30 pm #176120kassandrastarrParticipantI personally don’t buy that that those 2 meetings we’ve seen between August and Neal were the only contact they’ve had over the past 11 years. Maybe Neal didn’t know August was keeping tabs on him, but I think he was. After all, August knew enough about Bae to impersonate him to Gold.
I don’t trust the Blue Fairy. I also don’t really trust August/pinocchio because he isn’t known for doing things for altruistic reasons. I think there had to be something in it for him.
I think there has to be more to the story with the Blue Fairy.
March 1, 2013 at 10:10 pm #176124RumplesGirlKeymasterI agree. It all comes back to the Blue Fairy. Most of us around here are pretty suspicious of Blue. I wonder if she’s the one pulling all the strings behind the scenes. I wonder if she might be an outright villain by the end of season 3.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 14, 2013 at 8:30 pm #179985Marty McFlyParticipantI think August knows because he has the book that Henry had. Henry found everything out through that book too.
but who gave him that book…? could it have been blue? not likely, because she was stuck in SB. maybe he just found it. maybe he even wrote it in the first place and HE gave it to MM/SW so she’ll give it to Henry…? after all he is the writer here…
could be he just knew alot of stuff because he was a big boy when he was transported to the real world, and he might have been told alot about the plan so that he could tell Emma, but since he ran away from that responsibility, alot of things may have gone wrong…
btw, who is neverland connected with peter pan or pinoccio? I am hazy with fairytales… -
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