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1. I don’t think that was Belle’s heart in Regina’s hand. Usually, they like to show Regina yanking out a heart. It’s a good visual effect, and a nice squishy sound. The fact that Regina wasn’t actually shown taking Belle’s heart suggests that maybe it’s somebody else’s. Maybe it’s Regina’s heart. Or maybe it’s from the vault. If that’s true, then WOW does Belle have nerve. “Will kisses better”. Ha! Might have felt good. Also, if it’s somebody else’s heart, that’s very nervy of Regina, having failed so spectacularly with the fake book page just recently.
2. I don’t think killing Cruella will necessarily mean that Emma goes to the dark side. Killing a murderous maniac who has a gun to your kid’s head, and who is holding him on the edge of a cliff is justified as defense of one’s child. Emma didn’t know that Cruella couldn’t kill. Emma was acting to protect Henry. However, I think now that the Charmings, Emma, and Henry are all together, they could pretend that Emma is dark side now, so that Emma can go in undercover with Rumple.
3. I don’t think Henry’s middle name is Daniel. I think that was a signal.
[adrotate group="5"]3. I don’t think Henry’s middle name is Daniel. I think that was a signal.
Totally. And if it is Henry’s middle name, then that’s a missed opportunity for the “Something is not right; play along” ploy.
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1. I don’t think that was Belle’s heart in Regina’s hand. Usually, they like to show Regina yanking out a heart. It’s a good visual effect, and a nice squishy sound. The fact that Regina wasn’t actually shown taking Belle’s heart suggests that maybe it’s somebody else’s. Maybe it’s Regina’s heart. Or maybe it’s from the vault. If that’s true, then WOW does Belle have nerve. “Will kisses better”. Ha! Might have felt good. Also, if it’s somebody else’s heart, that’s very nervy of Regina, having failed so spectacularly with the fake book page just recently.
That was definitely Belle’s heart. The scene was cut to leave it ambiguous as to whether or not Belle gave her consent for Regina to take her heart.
2. I don’t think killing Cruella will necessarily mean that Emma goes to the dark side. Killing a murderous maniac who has a gun to your kid’s head, and who is holding him on the edge of a cliff is justified as defense of one’s child. Emma didn’t know that Cruella couldn’t kill. Emma was acting to protect Henry. However, I think now that the Charmings, Emma, and Henry are all together, they could pretend that Emma is dark side now, so that Emma can go in undercover with Rumple.
Emma shouldn’t really go dark over protecting her child, but the writers will use it as the way she goes dark because of the whole “heroes don’t kill” mantra.
3. I don’t think Henry’s middle name is Daniel. I think that was a signal.
Totally. And if it is Henry’s middle name, then that’s a missed opportunity for the “Something is not right; play along” ploy.
I think Daniel is Henry’s middle name and the fact that Regina used his middle name was the signal. It’s the whole middle name rule.
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Keeper of FelixEmma shouldn’t really go dark over protecting her child, but the writers will use it as the way she goes dark because of the whole “heroes don’t kill” mantra.
I agree. Emma protecting her child was heroic. The entire platitude that “heroes don’t kill” is empty and devoid of truth. What about everyday heroes who have to make life-and-death decisions to keep civilians safe from psychopaths who would harm innocent people? The police and the military make the difficult decisions so that private citizen can feel secure to walk on the street. Emma is a police woman, and as such, she upheld her duty to save a child (her child) from a hostage situation. She didn’t know Cruella was defenseless. All Emma knew in the heat of the moment was that a deranged woman was holding a gun at her son and threatening to shoot. Emma acted under pressure to rescue Henry. I dislike the writers’ attempt to twist an act of heroism of a mother saving her child into something dark and twisted, because it isn’t. Emma should be honored with a medal of valor, not branded a villain for something that most society would deem heroic.
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Emma didn’t kill Cruella, gravity did.
If Emma had done the exact same thing, but in a flat field, Cruella would’ve lived.
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Keeper of FelixThat was definitely Belle’s heart. The scene was cut to leave it ambiguous as to whether or not Belle gave her consent for Regina to take her heart.
Agreed. It’s the consent part that is left open (which was really really dumb)
I think Daniel is Henry’s middle name and the fact that Regina used his middle name was the signal. It’s the whole middle name rule.
Daniel is his middle name, for sure. What other name would it be?? I agree with you here.
I agree. Emma protecting her child was heroic. The entire platitude that “heroes don’t kill” is empty and devoid of truth. What about everyday heroes who have to make life-and-death decisions to keep civilians safe from psychopaths who would harm innocent people? The police and the military make the difficult decisions so that private citizen can feel secure to walk on the street. Emma is a police woman, and as such, she upheld her duty to save a child (her child) from a hostage situation. She didn’t know Cruella was defenseless. All Emma knew in the heat of the moment was that a deranged woman was holding a gun at her son and threatening to shoot. Emma acted under pressure to rescue Henry. I dislike the writers’ attempt to twist an act of heroism of a mother saving her child into something dark and twisted, because it isn’t. Emma should be honored with a medal of valor, not branded a villain for something that most society would deem heroic.
Yup that.
Also, pretty sure this series had an episode in which Charming killed several guards who were sent after his newly born daughter, with every intention of killing her. We don’t label him a monster and say that he might go evil. Golly, what episode was that? Oh right. Pilot.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"That was definitely Belle’s heart. The scene was cut to leave it ambiguous as to whether or not Belle gave her consent for Regina to take her heart.
Cut scenes are interesting, but they aren’t canon until they’re “locked in” on screen. I’m thinking of early Jabba the Hut footage.
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Saying gravity killed Cruella is like blaming the bullet when you fire a gun. Emma’a intent was to harm. Also, I don’t agree that Cruella’s death can be completely placed entirely on saving Henry slash defeating the dangerous villain. Yes, that was certainly a part of her motivation to send Cruella flying, however; a large part was also something Cruella said to her. Cruella starts off by threatening Henry’s life, but it isn’t until she starts taunting Emma about being the Savior that Emma finally snaps and tosses her.
If you’ll all recall Emma’s speech to Cinderella in the first season: “People are gonna tell you who you are your whole life. You just gotta punch back and say, “No, this is who I am”. You want people to look at you differently? Make them! You want to change things, you’re gonna have to go out there and change them yourself, because there are no fairy godmothers in this world.”
Basically Emma’s motto through life prior to season one had been: You have to be your own Savior, because the world sucks and will try to put you down. Emma’s whole identity as “the Savior” goes against everything that she’s ever believed. Understandable she’s was very reluctant to embrace the title in the first few seasons. And then when she finally started to believe at the end of last season she absolutely flopped at defeating Zelena.
Fast forward to this season with her haphazard control of magic in 4A and the revelation that her parents effectively changed her entire identity because they were afraid that she might be evil. Emma’s super pissed right now, and at least some of that bled into her decision to launch Cruella like a rag doll.
What I’m most interested in now, is how Emma reacts to the experience. Will she bury her feelings, will she feel guilty, or will she embrace the power and control. My guess is she’ll initially run from her feelings, but eventually it will hit her and she will feel guilty.
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