If Baelfire had stayed…..

[RumplesGirl]

I believe PP has the gift of site. I also think the Seer who Rumple had an encounter with is involved.

[Demileto]

@chianna wrote:

There has to be a seer involved somewhere, there’s so many events that have to unfold exactly so.

If the goal is Henry then the ultimate plan could be to get rid of the Dark One altogether. As it is the DO is immortal, the vessel might die but the power finds a new host. Henry’s mother is the embodiment of true love and his father the son of the current Dark One. Bae was the catalyst in the past but in the present everything happens because of Henry.

There is one: Rumplestiltskin. A greater number of those events were orchestrated by him, using the power he gained from the Seer in the flashbacks of Manhattan, in order to get Regina to cast the Dark Curse that’d take him to The Land Without Magic, where he expected to find Bae. What’s in question here is if there is an even bigger puppet master than him, putting his/her own touches in the greater scheme like Rumple losing Bae, Bae meeting Emma and Emma giving birth to Bae’s son Henry.

[chianna]

@Demileto wrote:

@chianna wrote:

There has to be a seer involved somewhere, there’s so many events that have to unfold exactly so.

If the goal is Henry then the ultimate plan could be to get rid of the Dark One altogether. As it is the DO is immortal, the vessel might die but the power finds a new host. Henry’s mother is the embodiment of true love and his father the son of the current Dark One. Bae was the catalyst in the past but in the present everything happens because of Henry.

There is one: Rumplestiltskin. A greater number of those events were orchestrated by him, using the power he gained from the Seer in the flashbacks of Manhattan, in order to get Regina to cast the Dark Curse that’d take him to The Land Without Magic, where he expected to find Bae. What’s in question here is if there is an even bigger puppet master than him, putting his/her own touches in the greater scheme like Rumple losing Bae, Bae meeting Emma and Emma giving birth to Bae’s son Henry.

Yes that’s my point, if there’s a bigger puppet master out there then they too need to have someway to know how events have to unfold. Making sure Henry is born has too many possible variations for them not to have that knowledge.

[Demileto]

@chianna wrote:

Yes that’s my point, if there’s a bigger puppet master out there then they too need to have someway to know how events have to unfold. Making sure Henry is born has too many possible variations for them not to have that knowledge.

Very true. Yet, PP was kidnapping children left and right for… what exactly, if he supposedly pulled some strings to ensure Henry’s birth?

I’m inclined to think he kidnapped the Seer that foretold Rumple losing Bae and she told him all about the boy he should seek. The rest is history.

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