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OUAT decides to try its hand at moral relativism. In this scenario, addiction is not inherently evil in and of itself, and everyone is already “addicted” to something anyway. If so, Rumple stays the Dark One provided he doesn’t actively cause harm to others, and is straight up about his “using” with his loved ones.
Ahh, look at that. You used the title of the novel I’m currently working on.
But honestly I could see them going the full dark Rumple, showing that his addiction cannot be fully fixed because that is his inherent flaw. I could also see his family rising up and helping him overcome it. I could also see him realizing he can’t overcome it, and therefore sacrificing himself for everyone (again). Although this time it wouldn’t be just to save his family, but to save himself from an addiction he cannot control. However, I too don’t see them killing Rumple, at least til the end. He should be there until the final few episodes.
[adrotate group="5"]Ahh, look at that. You used the title of the novel I’m currently working on
Cool – wait, what’s the title?
could also see him realizing he can’t overcome it, and therefore sacrificing himself for everyone (again). Although this time it wouldn’t be just to save his family, but to save himself from an addiction he cannot control.
To me that would be an extension of scenario 1. If pulling yourself out by the bootstraps fails, the noblest solution is to put yourself out of your own misery (a self-sacrifice essentially disguising a suicide).
To me that would be an extension of scenario 1. If pulling yourself out by the bootstraps fails, the noblest solution is to put yourself out of your own misery (a self-sacrifice essentially disguising a suicide).
Pretty much. And it’s Inherently Evil.
“He has learned something,” Kitsis said when asked whether Rumple might have learned from previous mistakes and do something as simple as tell Belle (Emilie de Ravin) the truth about being the Dark One again. (They didn’t say whether or not he will tell her, for the record.) “I think that if fans are like, ‘Oh, are they going to do the same thing again?’ — absolutely not. He’s learned a lot.”
This is the part of the article that leaves me questioning what Rumple possibly learned. He didn’t learn not to lie to Belle. He didn’t learn how to choose love over power. In other words, he hasn’t overcome his addiction to power nor has he really shown he’s no longer afraid to live without magic. So, again I ask what has he really learned? Are we really supposed to buy into the notion that because Rumple defeated a bear he’s now Brave (TM), all thanks to Emma, Merida and Belle? How is the audience supposed to believe that Rumple has learned how to wield the darkness for good, without letting it consume him and corrupt his supposedly good intentions, when not even Emma was able to do that?
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
This is the part of the article that leaves me questioning what Rumple possibly learned. He didn’t learn not to lie to Belle. He didn’t learn how to choose love over power. In other words, he hasn’t overcome his addiction to power nor has he really shown he’s no longer afraid to live without magic. So, again I ask what has he really learned? Are we really supposed to buy into the notion that because Rumple defeated a bear he’s now Brave (TM), all thanks to Emma, Merida and Belle? How is the audience supposed to believe that Rumple has learned how to wield the darkness for good, without letting it consume him and corrupt his supposedly good intentions, when not even Emma was able to do that?
I think what they may mean is that Rumple has learned not to lie to Belle about it. So I expect we will see him tell her sooner rather than later. Perhaps something along the lines of, “Listen, I took back the DO power. I wanted to be honest with you. But I want to use it for good. I took it on because I believe the power is best in my hands and I believe I can control it the best. It’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make. You may think it’s for power, but I promise it’s more than that.” Or something like that. Whether he means it, who knows. Or maybe he needs to have the DO power in order to bring back Neal? Maybe that’s his secret agenda. Obviously we know this doesn’t work because MRJ can’t return full time. But he’s been in the UW before, we just haven’t seen it. I bet he learned something then that none of the characters know about, yet. And I’m sure he has met Hades. Once again, Rumple is in a place that he knows way more about than everyone else. There’s a reason he went with everyone to the UW and it isn’t to save Hook I can guarantee that.
“He has learned something,” Kitsis said when asked whether Rumple might have learned from previous mistakes and do something as simple as tell Belle (Emilie de Ravin) the truth about being the Dark One again. (They didn’t say whether or not he will tell her, for the record.) “I think that if fans are like, ‘Oh, are they going to do the same thing again?’ — absolutely not. He’s learned a lot.”
This is the part of the article that leaves me questioning what Rumple possibly learned. He didn’t learn not to lie to Belle. He didn’t learn how to choose love over power. In other words, he hasn’t overcome his addiction to power nor has he really shown he’s no longer afraid to live without magic. So, again I ask what has he really learned? Are we really supposed to buy into the notion that because Rumple defeated a bear he’s now Brave (TM), all thanks to Emma, Merida and Belle? How is the audience supposed to believe that Rumple has learned how to wield the darkness for good, without letting it consume him and corrupt his supposedly good intentions, when not even Emma was able to do that?
The only way this made sense to me is if this is just a weird use of past tense. They are referring to future episodes we haven’t seen yet, but that are already filmed (hence in the past for them), maybe?
otherwise the only thing that Rump might have learned is that he inevitably gets caught so better fess up to Belle. That’ll be a step in the right direction at least.
While I would like for Rumple come clean to Belle of his own accord, Emma blackmailed him into opening the portal to the UW by threatening to tell Belle about his being the dark one again. Rumple complied precisely because he didn’t want Belle to “know what kind of man he really is.” Just before he opened the portal, he asked Emma “are you sure?” to make sure she really knew what she was getting herself into. Rumple never wanted to return to the UW, having been there before.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
ust before he opened the portal, he asked Emma “are you sure?” to make sure she really knew what she was getting herself into. Rumple never wanted to return to the UW, having been there before.
Don’t be so sure. Rumple is a master manipulator. Could have been asking Emma to make it look like it was her idea to go to the UW when it was actually Rumple’s the whole time. I put literally nothing past this man.
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