IMPORTANT: Remove Vancity Filming photos

[sarah_tn]

@Phee wrote:

@Sarah_TN wrote:

I don’t think we’ll see Vancity around much longer. I don’t think anybody would want to let them on set, if they were goihg to do things like that. If I knew that’s the kind of thing to expect from them, I don’t think I would if it were my decision.

The photos are taken in public areas. Those involved with the show cannot legally ban VCF (or anyone else) from being in those areas during filming. Even if the powers that be don’t really want them around, they can’t actually prevent them from being there. VCF won’t be going away any time soon.

Well, maybe Vancity will apologize and clean up it’s act. I hope they want to be respected as an information source. They can’t be respected at all, if they’re not going to be respectful. I mean they could have criticized JMO and Ginny in a much kinder, more tactful, and thus more productive way than stooping to name calling. I am so disappointed.

[angiebelle]

That dog turd line was so uncalled for! No one is saying that the actors are perfect or godlike- it’s just a very immature and disrespectful way to talk. There is a difference between constructive criticism and public slander.

The thing is, just because an actor chooses not to interact with fans, it doesn’t mean he or she is a bad person. How would you like to be constantly hounded for attention? They do not deserve to be insulted just because they want some peace. Anyone would come off as a jerk if he or she was pushed hard enough. (I know, I’m mostly preaching to the choir here.) I saw a video on Youtube in which a young woman basically ambushed Lana with a video camera as she was getting into her car at Paleyfest. It made me so uncomfortable! And yes, Lana came across as a little mean, but seriously- can you blame her?

It bugs me how judgmental some people are. I usually give the benefit of the doubt because you have no idea what’s going on in someone’s head, what his or her day has been like, what he or she is going through…no one is perfect and no one can be expected to be so. Being in the public eye is a lot of pressure- everything you do or say is scrutinized. Some people handle it better than others. I am rather shy and socially awkward myself. I can only imagine what people would say about me. Many years ago, some things I said on a Disney message board caused people to get upset with me. Not only did I find a 10 page thread on a parallel board basically tearing me apart, but a few people went so far as to try to get me fired from my job at WDW.

It’s a shame that Jennifer Morrison had such a bad fan experience that she is afraid to do set meet and greets anymore. Someone has soured the experience for the rest of us. It makes me so sad. While we may think that she shouldn’t let one fan determine how she is towards others, it isn’t our right to tell her how she should feel. If she is uncomfortable, then she is uncomfortable.

[sarah_tn]

Before I comment on this: Let me go ahead and state that I will be speaking a lot about my own beliefs. That means this will be a little God-heavy. If that is offensive to anyone, then here’s your opportunity to not read what follows:

Yes, it is a shame. Shame on the people who for whatever they did, traumatized her to the point that she would have to make a decision to seperate herself like that….

however….

Then there’s another aspect which is what is expected of me, as a person. Judgemental? No, not if looked at from a 360 degree angle. See, we are responsible for the decisions we make for ourselves. When the decisions we make for ourselves become hurtful or harmful toward others, that’s the point where the decisions we have made become wrong. It’s hurtful for others to believe that the admiration they have for someone is looked down upon by the person who they have such a high esteem for. The fact that she may never see the faces of some of these people is immaterial. Luke 12:48 says: “…From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked”. The position she is in, is one where she is in the public eye, and so has a burden of accountability God entrusts to those to whom He blesses with much.

Does that mean she can or should be responsible for showing appreciation to every fan? No, that would be impossible to do, However, examples can speak loud volumes.

I don’t know what happened, so it may be really bad, and the trauma may be terrible, but at some point she needs to take that step of faith to move beyond what happened to her.

We can say “But ___ happened” “But ____ made her feel _____”

If every standard we lived our lives by was directed by that word: “But”…..what standards would there be? What firm footing would we have to stand on to govern our judgement other than our feelings? Feelings can be deceiving, manipulative, and can easily blind us. That’s why as a Christian, the standards I live by have to be set by what I believe, not by how I feel. If I live by how I feel, I will be like a leaf blowing wherever the wind takes me. I’d have no anchor. I’d be standing on sinking sand. My eyes have to be focused on how the decisions I made will move outward from myself toward others, not from others inward to myself. I have to keep myself responsible for how what I do will impact others. Christ expects that of me, and so I expect that of myself.

That’s why I hope someday Jennifer is able to overcome this experience. Meeting the people who appreciate her so much can be an enjoyable experience for her. As for the others who choose to misbehave, or are just plain mean: They can’t be allowed to set a bar for the standard of the world outside. To see the world outside your door as containing a den or roaring lions sounds like very frightening, and very sad way to live. It doesn’t have to be that way! These people are just like us all. We are all flesh-and-blood imperfect human beings who can feel, can even be emotionally vulnerable, and can make mistakes. A lot of happiness can be found in giving the grace needed to accept that in other people.

1 Corinthians 13:1-2
If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.

[angiebelle]

Of course, it is disappointing to us as fans. I only meant that she shouldn’t be looked down on for it. When she feels ready, maybe she will try again. I really hope she does too. Until then, we should respect how she feels. I know she appreciates her fans- she has stated as much. I’ve seen interviews in which she said the show has the best fans in the world. We don’t know the full story of what happened, but for some reason, the meet and greets feel unsafe to her.

[maryrose d.]

I do agree that it is unprofessional for Vancity to bash the actors like that, since not all actors do that, more so that if JMo had a bad experience with fans it is easy to understand. also not all people are people persons and I understand if they are being professional. if actors come say hi to fans i think that makes them amazing but just because an actor doesn’t do it doesn’t make them any less of good actor or good person. actors are not gods so it doesn’t mean they will do everything you want and need, they are people, and they have their own lives.
also I understand their plea for pictures not to be put up on other sites but most people, at least what Ive seen here, state that they are from Vancity. Also there are a lot of links to their site. I think it is a little harsh for them to come out and say all photos should be placed down, they should have just said that they feel that putting the pics on other sites is hurting them and asked from now on to only post links and send the message along. That seems a bit more reasonable and professional and basically due a similar thing to ABC by taking those photos. Using someone elses work and putting it online to further the knowledge of the show. The pics are nice to see but it also seems to mean hurting ABC for putting spoliers out. So im split about how Vancity is reacting about this but if I see any pics by them ill report them,

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[craxyfox]

I felt disgusted when I saw Vancity’s comment,it was very immature and uncalled for
The actors aren’t worshipped like gods, maybe there are fans who obsess over them to the point of creepy/space invading, but the actors are people too and we can’t demand things from them.if anything, this fiasco may deter JMo from coming back to greet fans even more

If there’s anyone who thinks they’re high and mighty,it’s VC
It doesn’t say anywhere that if you’re on set,the actors HAVE to come and greet you.no.just no 😐
Haters will hate,but openly bullying and bashing people who give us so much, that’s just low

[CrownedWithLaurels]

LOVE what Phee said. PERFECT.

To me, it is not even about Jennifer not being “appreciative” enough, or having to overcome her fear, or being unfriendly, or anything that could be stated about her.
It’s about… she’s an actress and if she doesn’t have time, she doesn’t have time.

Even if she has time, it is something that she doesn’t have to do if she doesn’t want to.
It doesn’t say anything about her character, it doesn’t say anything about her friendliness, it doesn’t say anything about her appreciation of her fans.

I think people fail to realize this is her job. This is her work. Just because it is a little different than other peoples’ jobs, and just because some people step away when the time is right to meet fans, doesn’t mean anything about what she chooses to do when she is at work. She chooses how she bests handles herself at work and what is required of her. It has nothing to do with character. She knows herself best and under what circumstances she bests works. If she best works when she does not put herself out there with the fans, that is how she works best. She is making sure she can do her job to the best of her abilities.
Jennifer not coming out to meet fans is in no way shape or form harming or hurting others, and if people think that, and are complaining about their feelings being hurt, then they just need to grow up. She is working. She isn’t a doctor and not showing up for work and killing patients. (cue “In the Name of the Brother reference). She is not coming out to meet fans. I don’t see how she is harming or hurting anyone.

Sorry if that sounds harsh, but just because her job is different than some, and some come out to meet and greet, doesn’t mean she can. Just because I have a coworker at my job who takes 15 minutes every hour to go out to smoke and still gets paid because the boss doesn’t care, doesn’t mean I will allow myself to text or be on facebook or talk on the phone with my bff 15 minutes out of every hour just because my boss doesn’t care. My work ethic is highly different, and my focus is different. (this was just an example, haha… doesn’t really happen. My husband and I are full time youth and children’s pastors 😉 although others did that kind of stuff when I was a Chiropractic Assistant!)

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[angiebelle]

I agree, CrownedwithLaurels! They are under no obligation- and I’d hardly call it hurtful that she doesn’t come out for meet and greets. Disappointing for those waiting at the set, certainly, but not malicious. Sometimes, you just want to go home and rest after a day of work. Acting is hard- far more of a challenge than most people think.

[HappyEndings]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

Based on the Tweets from VC, it seems that it’s because certain actors don’t come out to greet the fans. And VC is very open to bashing them for that. The problem I have with that is that they make sure they @ each of the actors. If you’re upset that an actor didn’t come out to greet you (which they are under no obligation to do, BTW) don’t go on Twitter and send all these tweets with the actors @names.

VC, which I love and am grateful to for all the pics, seems to think that simply by being on location they should expect personal interaction with the actors and the sign of a GREAT actor is one who comes over and engages with the fans. While I can understand that not getting to meet your favorite actor is a disappointment, they’re human begins too. I’m sure they have many reasons for not wanting to come out.

Well put RumpesGirl!!!

These stars are hired to work not to entertain the crowd, if VC wants to pay them for an interview that would be a different story. Isn’t there some way that you can ban people on twitter etc that does this stuff? 👿

Maybe that should get hit with a liable suit and stuff this unprofessional slander on these actors!!!!!

[obisgirl]

I’m already unfollowed VF, but you can report people on twitter for offensive content.

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