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April 6, 2013 at 7:41 pm #184724MatthewPaulModerator
@WeWereCursed! wrote:
Most people argue that when one becomes an actor, they just have to accept being hounded by fans and paparazzi as part of the job, which is true to an extent, but I just wish people would treat them like PEOPLE. They’re just people that are good at their jobs. I saw a youtube video of several people chasing Ginnifer through a parking garage yelling, “where are you going? Why won’t you talk to us?!” kind of meanly, and she was trying to ignore them, wouldn’t look at them, and walked quickly to get to her car. The description for it was something along the lines of “Ginnifer Goodwin being rude to her fans.” And I’m just like…she was ALONE, in a dark parking garage, and people were chasing her…she was probably scared! I sure would have been!
Whatever happened to JMO was probably really frightening, and it sounds to me like maybe she just doesn’t want to caught in a mass of people. Don’t blame her. All the stories and pictures I’ve seen of her and fans on the street or whatever and they way she talks so highly of her fans makes it sound to me like she’s a nice person.
A friend of mine is Snow White’s “friend” at Disney World, and recently Snow White was approached by Ginnifer who told her what a fantastic job she was doing. Absolutely made this Snow’s year. That sounds to me like a nice person. 🙂
There’s a difference between being rude to your fans and avoiding creepy/stalkish ones. Ginnifer has certainly been very nice and humble to the fans she has had a good experience with. If she feels her personal space has been invaded, she has every right to act the way she did. There are times and places for fan interactions. I’ve known actors who stopped interacting with fans altogether because of unfortunate experiences, and it is a huge shame for those fans who actually are well behaved.
[adrotate group="5"]April 9, 2013 at 7:35 pm #185341vancityfilmingParticipant@DanielJLewis wrote:
The “fair use” issue is something I’ve considered and think could still be valid. However, there’s a slight difference with his photos. “Fair use” covers use of copyrighted material for the sake of commentary or review. We do this with screenshots in our shownotes, sound clips in our podcast, and music clips in our soundtrack review. In each of these, we are directly commenting on the copyrighted work itself—they’ll all official parts of OUAT and we’re commenting on OUAT.
But these photos could be a slightly different issue. They’re not officially OUAT, and we’re commenting on the OUAT inside the photos, but not the photos themselves.
Then again, I could be too technical on this.
The point is that the copyright holder is clearly not happy with how his images are moving around on the Internet and he’s already sending DMCA takedown notices to sites he deems as infringing on his copyrights.
To the responsibility point, I’m not responsible for the opinions posted on this site. But if someone uploads a photo to the forums, it is hosted on my server and thus redistributes someone else’s work.
SpoilerTV and Vancity Filming have a special agreement and SpoilerTV provides embed codes for these photos. But those embed codes won’t work in these forums because we block HTML and Javascript.
I didn’t realize that the HTML links didn’t work on your forum. What can we do to rectify this situation?
April 9, 2013 at 8:47 pm #185362vancityfilmingParticipantI have read all your comments and appreciate all of you taking the time to voice your concerns. I have replied here.
April 19, 2013 at 1:31 pm #187163Daniel J. LewisKeymasterImportant update
Vancity Filming has kindly granted us permission to embed one photo per set as long as we clearly attribute the photo, do not edit it, and link back to their website post that had the photo.
We’re grateful for Vancity Filming’s generosity.
April 20, 2013 at 5:58 am #187416PheeParticipantThat’s good to know. Glad there was a compromise reached. 🙂
April 24, 2013 at 9:10 am #188304playaritaParticipant@Sarah_TN wrote:
Before I comment on this: Let me go ahead and state that I will be speaking a lot about my own beliefs. That means this will be a little God-heavy. If that is offensive to anyone, then here’s your opportunity to not read what follows:
Yes, it is a shame. Shame on the people who for whatever they did, traumatized her to the point that she would have to make a decision to seperate herself like that….
however….
Then there’s another aspect which is what is expected of me, as a person. Judgemental? No, not if looked at from a 360 degree angle. See, we are responsible for the decisions we make for ourselves. When the decisions we make for ourselves become hurtful or harmful toward others, that’s the point where the decisions we have made become wrong. It’s hurtful for others to believe that the admiration they have for someone is looked down upon by the person who they have such a high esteem for. The fact that she may never see the faces of some of these people is immaterial. Luke 12:48 says: “…From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked”. The position she is in, is one where she is in the public eye, and so has a burden of accountability God entrusts to those to whom He blesses with much.
Does that mean she can or should be responsible for showing appreciation to every fan? No, that would be impossible to do, However, examples can speak loud volumes.
I don’t know what happened, so it may be really bad, and the trauma may be terrible, but at some point she needs to take that step of faith to move beyond what happened to her.
We can say “But ___ happened” “But ____ made her feel _____”
If every standard we lived our lives by was directed by that word: “But”…..what standards would there be? What firm footing would we have to stand on to govern our judgement other than our feelings? Feelings can be deceiving, manipulative, and can easily blind us. That’s why as a Christian, the standards I live by have to be set by what I believe, not by how I feel. If I live by how I feel, I will be like a leaf blowing wherever the wind takes me. I’d have no anchor. I’d be standing on sinking sand. My eyes have to be focused on how the decisions I made will move outward from myself toward others, not from others inward to myself. I have to keep myself responsible for how what I do will impact others. Christ expects that of me, and so I expect that of myself.
That’s why I hope someday Jennifer is able to overcome this experience. Meeting the people who appreciate her so much can be an enjoyable experience for her. As for the others who choose to misbehave, or are just plain mean: They can’t be allowed to set a bar for the standard of the world outside. To see the world outside your door as containing a den or roaring lions sounds like very frightening, and very sad way to live. It doesn’t have to be that way! These people are just like us all. We are all flesh-and-blood imperfect human beings who can feel, can even be emotionally vulnerable, and can make mistakes. A lot of happiness can be found in giving the grace needed to accept that in other people.
1 Corinthians 13:1-2
If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.The problem is that we don’t actually know how serious and traumatic the experience was (nor would I like to and the fact that it was to traumatize her means that she needs more positive thoughts etc). There’s been examples with other celebrities where one moment of kindness something as small as responding to a fan letter actually led to very scary threatening situations. So her wanting stricter boundaries, in certain situations, is her choice and not that she has not dealt with the experience nor that she looks down on fans.
She may have simply decided to admire fans in specific settings such as public places like the airport, meet and greets etc and wants to avoid situations where a similar traumatic experience can occur. (And it’s already been said that she is grateful for her fans and does take time out for them). If she has already been gracious enough with fans in various places then what more does she have to do to make it seem as if she is not looking down on her fans or seen negatively? It seems she is already doing enough… For instance if a fan showed up on her doorstep I would expect, urge and hope she calls the cops immediately.
What I never understood is that if celebrities are expected to have a certain level of decorum and behavior then why can’t we expect the same from fans? (I also know I can do what I can for myself and cannot force my opinions on others).
I guess for me as a Christian I apply my beliefs in wishing her the best, hoping that she finds the peace she needs after such an experience (and for me I believe that true peace is found through Christ), respecting her choices in how she interacts with fans, and still loving her as a fellow being the way Christ commands me and respecting, admiring her as a fan of her work. I guess for me I live more by the verses after 1 Corinthians 13: 1-2 with 1 Corinthians 13: 4-5 (KJV) “4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, 5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; 6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; 7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.”
I want to love as Christ commands me and not as a means of expecting something in return. Not saying you don’t but simply stating my beliefs.
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