Initial reactions.

[maiqu20]

I think more than anything Emma was hurt because she believed in Regina changing and was fighting for her and as far as she knows she saw Regina kill Archie, the nicest person in town, so she lashed out and went protective momma mode.. Like I can’t believe I almost let her around my son.. We’ve seen she has her father’s impulsiveness so it was like an act first think later moment..

Remember Emma’s worst enemy is her own mind, she felt once again betrayed by her gut so she lashed out and all she thought about was protecting Henry

[hcadia]

Am I the only one that can’t understand why Cora knows that there is magic in SB?? 😕 How can she know so much, like the curse will be broke in 28 years, everyone will get memory-loss and there will be a savior etc…
It was Rumple that came up with the curse so it’s confusing that Cora share this knowledge…… Any one have any idea???

[Phee]

@hcadia wrote:

Am I the only one that can’t understand why Cora knows that there is magic in SB?? 😕 How can she know so much, like the curse will be broke in 28 years, everyone will get memory-loss and there will be a savior etc…
It was Rumple that came up with the curse so it’s confusing that Cora share this knowledge…… Any one have any idea???

Cora does seem to know an awful lot about the curse. It’s made me wonder if perhaps she’s the one who Rumple was originally gonna recruit to cast it, but that plan didn’t work out. Like, perhaps Cora knew how it was all gonna work, and when it came to sacrificing the one she loved most to cast the curse, she’d had to have sacrificed Regina, and she couldn’t. That could explain why Rumple set his sights on recruiting Regina to perform the task instead, and the tragedy of it all would be that in the end, Regina’s life did in a way end up being sacrificed for the sake of the curse, even if her mother hadn’t been able to sacrifice her for it in the beginning. It’s basically just pure speculation, but Cora’s intimate knowledge of the curse had to come from somewhere and once I’d started wondering about it, my imagination kinda ran away with it. 😉

As for Cora knowing there’s magic in SB, she knew that Emma and Snow got from SB to FTL, which involved magic on the SB end. I don’t remember exactly how much info we saw the girls give to “Lancelot”, but safe to say they’d have told “him” about the state of things in SB.

[hcadia]

@Phee wrote:

@hcadia wrote:

Am I the only one that can’t understand why Cora knows that there is magic in SB?? 😕 How can she know so much, like the curse will be broke in 28 years, everyone will get memory-loss and there will be a savior etc…
It was Rumple that came up with the curse so it’s confusing that Cora share this knowledge…… Any one have any idea???

Cora does seem to know an awful lot about the curse. It’s made me wonder if perhaps she’s the one who Rumple was originally gonna recruit to cast it, but that plan didn’t work out. Like, perhaps Cora knew how it was all gonna work, and when it came to sacrificing the one she loved most to cast the curse, she’d had to have sacrificed Regina, and she couldn’t. That could explain why Rumple set his sights on recruiting Regina to perform the task instead, and the tragedy of it all would be that in the end, Regina’s life did in a way end up being sacrificed for the sake of the curse, even if her mother hadn’t been able to sacrifice her for it in the beginning. It’s basically just pure speculation, but Cora’s intimate knowledge of the curse had to come from somewhere and once I’d started wondering about it, my imagination kinda ran away with it. 😉

As for Cora knowing there’s magic in SB, she knew that Emma and Snow got from SB to FTL, which involved magic on the SB end. I don’t remember exactly how much info we saw the girls give to “Lancelot”, but safe to say they’d have told “him” about the state of things in SB.

Ahhh, that would explain a lot.. I almost thought that Cora have some sort of spy-cam in SB…. Thank you dearie 😀

[evilqueen]

Phee, your explanation that Cora might be the one originally to cast the curse makes A LOT OF SENSE! Personally, I would like that to be true!

However, as for how Cora knew there was magic in SB – I think that was clearly explained. She didn’t TELL Hook there was magic in this land, she SHOWED it to him. So to me, it was more of a guess than the actual knowledge – she must have tried if she could do any magic and it actually did work. Either that or she must have somehow sensed/felt the ‘change in the air’ from Rumple’s unblocking the magic or even felt it as soon as she entered our world – she traveled through many other worlds so she surely knows the difference in the magic/non-magic atmosphere.
I don’t think she knew that BEFORE she entered our world though (unless she literally sensed the moment Rumple introduced magic, which I doubt), it wouldn’t be a problem anyway. She SAILED into our world which doesn’t require any magic, does it? And we saw that even though before there was no magic as such, you could still use it if you had some bits of it left – like Daniel’s ring to open the portal in the hat or poisoned apple turnover. So it’s not like she was risking not being able to enter our world or to use bits of magic if she brought lots of magical stuff with her (I’m sure being experienced in travels like that, she made sure she had plan B. And C, and D, and probably even all the way to Z.), especially that nobody ever doubted that magic dust and compass combined would work so why wouldn’t a bean work either?

[elle]

I think she could sort of feel the magic. In Broken, the Blue Fairy said that she could feel the magic, but she just couldn’t get to it because she had not Fairydust or wands.

I think the same thing with Cora–she is certainly powerful. She could probably feel the magic.

[sacrlc]

I’m thinking the reason Cora suspected there was magic in SB was due to Emma and Snow’s appearance in FTL – what was left of it. Adding to that suspicion is when Cora tried to get Emma’s heart, she was unable to get it and instead was repelled, surprising Cora. In addition there was her education in Rumple’s curse before he turned to Regina, which she knew about, probably more than Rumple.

Cora seems a bit savvy and is able to connect the dots easily, even when they are not apparent to anyone else.

I find it interesting that Rumple is “afraid” of Cora, even though he denies it.

Don't grow up. It's a trap.

[eireland]

Also, would Emma and MM not have mentioned that there was magic, or at least talked about the raith, when they met Lance a lot… because even discussing the raith would make Cora know there was magic, otherwise the raith never could have been there.

Also, if there wasn’t magic in Storybrooke, Emma and MM never could have gotten to FTL. So… I don’t think it is a big deal that Cora knew there was magic there.

I think she was testing if her magic worked the same way when she transported in front of Hook at the beginning, to see if it would work.

[hcadia]

My memory just came back.. the winter/holiday break was a bit long 😎 Now everything makes more sense. Of course Cora must have known that magic exist in SB, how else could Emma and MM get to the FTL….. I’ve totally forgotten that! Sorry for such a stupid question dearies… 😳 Thanks for all the responds.

[evilqueen]

Ok, now I don’t agree with that – the simple fact that Emma and MM found themselves in FTL does NOT definitely state that SB has magic for sure.
Even before the curse was broken Regina could use bits and pieces of magic and she had a vault full of hearts – how would that work without magic? And how would Gold’s ‘pleases’ work without magic? So even though the land had no magic and you couldn’t to tricks as such, if you had enough materials it still worked.
One can ask then – what about portals, they are a pretty big thing, surely they need more magic than that? Well, not really – remember HOW Regina got back her apple? She sacrificed Daniel’s ring and opened a PORTAL with the magic hat so that Jefferson could retrieve the fruit. So one could speculate that it would also be enough to transport Emma and MM, even for the land without magic. So no, Cora couldn’t take this as a definite confirmation.
However, she could find out somehow (Aurora’s memories?) that together with those two was also the Wraith – and now that DOES require some magic: if it didn’t, Rumple would’ve probably summoned it earlier – though he didn’t know about Belle before so I guess we won’t know…

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