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Henry’s got Snow’s optimism, Rumple’s smarts, Neal’s sneakiness, Emma’s intuition, Regina’s sass (okay, they all have some sass), and David’s determination. You can definitely see some of him in all of them.
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@Elle wrote:
I’m bit annoyed with Henry when yelled at his family about how they had to be good and not hurt Regina. It seems he forgot how many times she tried to kill them. And he continues to treat Emma horribly just because she lied–yes she was wrong, but as she apologized for it and told him how Neal had hurt her, he should try to understand.
I totally agree on all of this, I can’t stand Henry anymore why Emma can’t control him better or even Bae no kid should talk to his parents like that he isn’t acting like an 11 year old in my opinion didn’t he make that comment to Emma when they went up against Cora and Regina that she was going to win.
Also, I think this episode shows once again how Regina is not a good mother. Not only with her attempt to make Henry love her, but how she separated a child from his father. The annoying part was that the show was aiming for this to make Regina mor sympathetic, but all I feel for her is disgust.
Again, I agree.
Didn’t show Henry in the past at all thought they would have done that
@EvilQueen wrote:
If she acted straight away she might have been able to adopt little Emma 😛
Emma growing up in the town, suspecting her teacher is really her mother and her adopted mother is the Evil Queen? That show could have been on a different network, like the one with Vampire Diaries. I’d still have watched it I admit.
@EvilQueen wrote:Greg is obviously looking for his father and has the trauma of people not believing him – but there must be something else to why he’s filming everything (BTW, it’s just Regina’s luck that everything she magically does, is being recorded!) What is his plan and who is he in touch with from outside SB? Will we ever find out how he actually found the town again? Does he notice that noone in this town has aged?
It is hard to know how much he remembered of what it was like when he was little. I’m sure he remembered some things like Regina. It’s clear the townspeople don’t recognize him as the little boy (curse probably fogged their memories). He has to have noticed some things in the town have changed also (Emma is sheriff, the way they dress.)
So, when he ran into Henry, did he recognize the last name on the backpack (was there one?) How did he get Regina’s number, and why did he call her to warn her Henry was in the woods? Was he testing her to see if she recognized his voice? Did he think Henry was another boy she had kidnapped, as she had almost done to him?
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Ok, they had me as soon as I heard the Talking Heads playing This Must Be the Place, on Kurt’s radio! Bringing the Enchanted Forest into the real world and creating Storybrooke was done so well!
Loved it! Definitely TRON nods and TRON back story for Greg (except the world they are trapped in is Storybrooke and not a digital world). I posted about this all, on another thread. Both fathers and sons in this episode and the movies share the last name Flynn and the young Sam Flynn was played by Owen Best. Same story line, a son searching for his father, trapped in a world where they don’t belong. Kitsis and Horowitz also wrote TRON: Legacy. So I just loved how they wrote it into the episode and it fit in so well.
Loved Reggie’s home made walkie talkie. 😆 Really had a good laugh at that! Oh, and the Boss line to Kurt 😉 Granny had a great zinger to Ruby: “When I put over easy on the menu, I was talking about the eggs.” LOL!
It really did answer all our questions and so easily as well. A little bit of Brigadoon meets Groundhog Day 🙂 I just really enjoyed this one.
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@Elle wrote:
I’m bit annoyed with Henry when yelled at his family about how they had to be good and not hurt Regina. It seems he forgot how many times she tried to kill them. And he continues to treat Emma horribly just because she lied–yes she was wrong, but as she apologized for it and told him how Neal had hurt her, he should try to understand.
I agree, Elle. While I’ve been cutting Henry some slack for the past few episodes because not very much time has past, tonight I really reached the breaking point. It was a combination of awkward lines and giving Jared Gilmore to much too handle. I feel badly for singling him out because I know he gets a lot of criticism out there a lot of it I feel unwarranted criticism, but I just don’t think tonight was one of his better episodes. However, a lot of it was probably the writing because I think they’re trying to make the show too simplistic by having Henry yelling at everyone about how bad magic is.
I get that he’s a kid, but I don’t think that should mean that he can say or do whatever he wants and never receive any discipline. Likewise, I think it’s awful that because the writers have written themselves into a corner about how magic was supposed to work differently here when it really doesn’t, the only way they’ve thought to overcome that is by having someone not do something evil or in the case of letting Rumple die, something smart, because Henry wouldn’t like it. I understand that everyone is connected through him and that he’s going through a lot, but that doesn’t mean that they can’t pull him aside and explain that killing Regina is just one option they might have to do if she doesn’t stop going after them first. I don’t know if I’m explaining this quite right, but it’s like he wants to have it both ways. So he wants to be treated as an equal when it comes to the truth, but then he still wants to act like a child when it comes to facing the realities that there might not be a way to stop one of his moms without killing her.
Also, I think this episode shows once again how Regina is not a good mother. Not only with her attempt to make Henry love her, but how she separated a child from his father. The annoying part was that the show was aiming for this to make Regina mor sympathetic, but all I feel for her is disgust.
Oh, I agree. Lana Parrilla is a wonderful actress, but the more they try to make Regina sympathetic, the more it backfires for me. I just felt bad for poor Gregowen. I’m starting to warm up to his character now especially if he joins the good guys in taking Regina down. I really hope he finds his dad, and that his dad is still the same age. It seems unlikely because Henry aged since he was never part of the curse, but if his dad is still the same age, maybe they can still have time left together that Regina robbed them of.
@TimeSpacer wrote:
he has been hypersensitized to lies from his mother by his experience with Regina. She lied to him about the curse for his entire life and made him question his own sanity for years. The only person he could turn to explain a confusing world, his mother, lied to him and only added to that confusion. Then, he found Emma and assumed she would be the perfect mother – the opposite of Regina.
Exactly. He carries on about Emma’s lies because he put her on a pedestal. Regina is mad. Regina is the Evil Queen. Regina lied to me all these years. Regina tore the Enchanted Forest apart. Regina destroyed lives. My mum wouldn’t do that. My real mum would be nice. My real mum would never lie. My mum would be a hero. And so it goes…. he is ten or eleven after all. Things are very black and white at that age.
OK, who else is wondering why Cora’s heart wasn’t black as coal, if killing Cora has this effect on Snow, hers should have been pitch black… unless it was not her heart after all.
Well, even out of your body, your heart is still connected. Why else would you listen if someone spoke to it or die if it was crushed…So that shouldn’t matter, should it? If you do bad things it should turn black.
Okay here is my initial reactions for Episode 2×17 “Welcome To Storybrooke”
When little Owen (who we now know is actually Greg) mentioned Luke Skywalker & Darth Vader Light Saber colors that is when I pieced it together who he was.
As film student I loved how they showed the same dark purplish cloud that we saw in the pilot when Regina cast the curse to rip everyone away from the enchanted forest and bringing them to our world thus creating an instant town that we know as Storybrooke. I can’t help but think that both Ben & Owen(Greg) were also affected by the curse because they were camping in the woods that was part of Storybrooke.
Loved all the 80’s references.
It was great seeing Jamie Dorman back as Sheriff Graham aka The Huntsman.
Rumple paying his respects to Cora was not out of character for him at all. He did have feelings for her that much was clear in “The Miller’s Daughter”
Rumple telling Regina that she still hadn’t learned anything was huge because it showed me that he clearly had grown and is continuing to grow by going to warn the David,Emma, Henry about Regina, Later working with David to try and find out how Regina plans to strike back at Snow, Rumple explaining the Curse Of The Empty Heart to David, Emma, Henry, Later keeping watch and protecting Snow from Regina is something that I don’t think the old Rumple would never have done, so that tells me he is trying to be a better man for both Neal & Belle.
I can understand Henry still being angry with Emma over her lie about Neal but I feel he will eventually get over it. It will just take some time because that was a huge massive lie. But I think that doesn’t even compare to everything that Regina did to him the first 10 years of his life there in Storybrooke. I think on some level he knows that. While he does still think of Regina as his mom it’s clear that he is afraid of her and doesn’t want to go back to living with her.
Loved the fact that Emma seemed to put her anger with Neal aside to work with him to try keep Henry safe from Regina’s curse. I’m sure it was Neal’s idea to take him back to New York with him.
Gotta love Neal’s arrogance when he thought Henry had agreed to go with him “Not bad for Day 3 as a dad if I do say so myself”
Henry is turning out to be exactly like Neal in a lot of ways it’s obvious they both do not like magic because of their experiences with it. I think that was very clear to both Emma & Neal When Emma says “Did you really fall for that ? He’s Your Son !!!” Neal thinks about it for a second and says “He’s running”
Henry wanting to get rid of magic was similar to Neal wanting to flee from a magical world. In Henry’s case he wanted it gone to keep those loves from hurting each other. In Neal’s case he wanted to come to a world without magic to stop Rumple from being the dark one and he would have his papa back.
I liked the fact that David seemed to know what Henry wanted from the mines, and Neal knew that Henry wanted to get rid of magic.
Henry as usual was the voice of reason between all the adults in his life. While Regina destroyed the curse, Henry still wasn’t really able to talk Regina out of her desire for vengeance. Which is why he went straight back to Emma,Neal & David, he knows he is safer with his family and they do love him then he is with Regina.
Snow & Regina Confrontation – I figured that Regina would take Snow’s heart out but I never expected her to show it to her and point out the darkness in it, then shoved it right back in Snow’s chest but not before telling Snow that the more she blackens her heart along the way she will destroy her family and the she will get Henry back. In Regina’s mind she has won and Snow has lost. I suspect that before the season finale Snow will get rid of that blackness in her heart by doing something very very good & selfless.
As for the promo for Selfless, Brave And True. I think this will be another epic episode and that Neal’s fiance Tamara is not as nice as we were led to believe in episode 2×14 “Manhattan”
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