Is Belle Magical?

[Slurpeez]

We saw Belle cast her first spell in 3×7 merely by believing in the power of fairy magic. She had to believe in her ability to send the protective powers of the fairy dust to form a protective dome over SB. So, if Belle has the ability to cast a spell just by believing, does that mean she has magical potential? Since Belle can conduct fairy magic, could that perhaps mean she’s half-fairy? Could her mother be a fairy?

[TheWatcher]

I think everyone has magical ability. I always thought it was a craft like it is in, Wicked (Wizard of Oz type book). Anyone can learn it, but some are better at than others. Belle using magic doesn’t surprise me. Though I do think it means something… The way BF just backed off >> I think she wanted Belle to be the one to cast the spell.

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[RumplesGirl]

I think people can work magical object without having the spark of magic. Snow, for instance, could open the jail cell by blowing on ink of the parchment. But that didn’t require her to be magical, just to use the magic already present. Same with Belle. All she needed to do was pour the potion into the fairy dust in the town and the magic worked itself.

I also think this is in contrast to Neal in 301. There he had to direct the magic himself. It wouldn’t work if Neal wasn’t focused. It was more than just using a magical object, something inside him also let it happen.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Helena Menezes]

I think so. Here’s my theory about Belle being magical:

 

“I always thought Belle was an ordinary woman, in sense that she had not magic. There is beauty in Rumpelstiltskin falls in love for someone ordinary, powerless. But after watching the series a few times I had to admit that I no longer believe in Belle as a powerless person.

First, there is her ability to talk about the heart of the people. In the nineteenth episode of the second season, ‘Lacey’, a forgetful Belle tells Rumpelstiltskin that she knows his feelings are real. ‘I have a sense about people. I can’t explain how but I can just tell‘.

Recently, I found myself thinking about three scenes.

1. The first is the one that Belle has a dream in which Rumpelstilstskin gives her a necklace, and, while the two are talking, the dwarves come into the shop and start looking for their pickaxes – it’s the first scene of the fourth episode of the season two, The Crocodile.
2. The second one is from the episode twenty-one of season two, Second Star to the Right, when Rumpelstiltskin is showing his magic to Lacey and he makes a necklace to her – very similar to the necklace that Belle saw at her dream on episode four.
3. The third one is from episode twenty-two of season two, And Straight On ‘Til Morning, it’s when the dwarves are in Rumpelstiltskin’s shop looking for Sneezy cup and Grumpy gives the potion to Rumpelstiltskin – the one that makes people remember who they were at their original lands.

The connection of these three scenes is very awkward, at least for me.

There is also this scene at the very end of the episode twenty-two (season two), when Rumpelstiltskin says to Belle that he could never come back from the journey to save Henry and she says to him: ‘I understand, but I also know that the future isn’t always what it seems’. What make me think: ‘okay, she knows that the future isn’t always like the people see it because she had the experience or because Rumpelstiltskin told her?’.”

This all was thought before last episode. Even before this season starts. Now, well… I can add to this the fact that she actually casted a spell. And, for that, she had to believe: a very fairy thing. Do you guys know that Belle is daughter of a fairy in one of the versions of Beauty and the Beast?

Well… that’s my theory.

[RumplesGirl]

First, there is her ability to talk about the heart of the people. In the nineteenth episode of the second season, ‘Lacey’, a forgetful Belle tells Rumpelstiltskin that she knows his feelings are real. ‘I have a sense about people. I can’t explain how but I can just tell‘.

That’s a good point, but I also think that is part of Cursed Belle’s identity. Belle has a sense about people as well. This is just Belle’s trait coming out in Lacey. Don’t know if that’s magic or just part of the basic “Belle” story. Her greatest ability is that she can see beyond the monster.

Do you guys know that Belle is daughter of a fairy in one of the versions of Beauty and the Beast?

We do! There are many people around these parts who are a big fan of the theory that Tinkerbell might be Belle’s mother.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Helena Menezes]

Helena Menezes wrote: First, there is her ability to talk about the heart of the people. In the nineteenth episode of the second season, ‘Lacey’, a forgetful Belle tells Rumpelstiltskin that she knows his feelings are real. ‘I have a sense about people. I can’t explain how but I can just tell‘.

That’s a good point, but I also think that is part of Cursed Belle’s identity. Belle has a sense about people as well. This is just Belle’s trait coming out in Lacey. Don’t know if that’s magic or just part of the basic “Belle” story. Her greatest ability is that she can see beyond the monster.

I suppose could be a spark of magic in Belle, something she had even before she learn anything about magic. Like Emma’s ability to see when the people are lying to her.

Helena Menezes wrote: Do you guys know that Belle is daughter of a fairy in one of the versions of Beauty and the Beast?

We do! There are many people around these parts who are a big fan of the theory that Tinkerbell might be Belle’s mother.

Maybe she is, maybe she’s not. But she could be, the series gave us some clues. I think this would be amazing!

[Keb]

Neal was surprised that Emma was magical, and Snow and Charming’s reactions to it suggest that it’s somewhat unusual. Regina’s claim that she and Rumple are the most powerful magic users ever is also interesting in this equation.

OTH, we’ve seen Cora and Jafar pick it up just out of a desire for revenge, because they wanted to. We’ve also seen Rumple able to pick up a new apprentice within days or hours of dumping Regina.

But we’ve also seen tons of examples of people who presumably aren’t magical (as Neal put it) using magic prepared by Rumple (mainly Rumple) for various purposes: Charming uses a potion to find Jefferson, Snow used the squid ink, and the dwarves were able to use BF’s cure potion. Robin Hood was able to use a magic wand.

And then there’s TL magic which seems to be in its own class: TL kiss is the main activator here, but it seems to have other effects in at least some couples (like Charming feeling pain when Snow ate the apple).

I’ve also got some theories about the colors of magic, though I don’t think they’re fully consistent. Rumple’s magic is usually purple, as is Regina’s, so in my head that’s linked with dark magic, but sometimes (as when he vanishes from Hook’s ship in 204) Rumple’s magic is red, black (as when he took the sheriff’s tongue in 219)…or even blue. BF’s magic is almost always blue, and we’ve seen a few other instances of blue magic–curing, fixing chip, and so on, that make me think that blue magic might be “good” or “light” magic.

But then there’s Belle’s magic. And it’s not entirely true that she’s never used it before 307: She used fairy dust to bring Phillip back, though that might not qualify as a spell. She also used TLK to almost bring Rumple back. I need to go back and look at colors for the Phillip incident, but anyway, in 307 her magic is…Gold. And I love this. I love it to bits. It makes me squee and bounce and dance and hop around when I think about it. I’m trying to think when/if we’ve seen gold magic elsewhere, and I’m not sure if we have. But the two times that she activates a spell here, once with the potion in the mines, and once with the teacup joining its saucer (awwwwww symbolism yeah), the magic is gold. Both times one could argue that she’s simply activating magic triggers that Rumple set up (like the Charmings using his potions), but it seems…special, especially in light of the way she and Blue phrased things in the mine, with belief involved.

And it does seem more like Neal’s “blood magic,” which I hope we see more of, than anything else. Like he has magic not because it’s inherent, as Emma’s is, but because of the relationship (love?) between him and his father. So does Belle have magic because of TL with a magical person? Or is it TL magic itself at work?

There is her “superpower” too…she and Emma are the only ones who have made claims that are generally validated, both in the shows and by the writers/actors, to having some kind of sense about people beyond the ordinary. (Though the TL thing between Snowing seems to be similarly supernatural.) Emma’s definitely got magic. What does that mean for Belle?

Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing

[Phee]

I’m trying to think when/if we’ve seen gold magic elsewhere, and I’m not sure if we have.

I’m wanting to say that when Robin used the fairy wand, I think it glowed gold?

I did love that the magic that came about when Belle was doing stuff that had been set up by Rumple, that it was gold of all colours.

I’ve always got the TinkerMomma theory tucked away in the back of my mind, even if I’m not fully subscribed to it, but I just can’t fully let it go either. As things stand right now, with Belle’s known parentage being 100% genetically mortal, I’m inclined to say that she isn’t especially magical herself.

[kfchimera]

It is interesting and I’ve been a fan of the idea of a connection between Belle and Tinkerbell of some kind for awhile.  I like the Tinkermomma idea (except for the part of shipping her with Mo,..OH NO).  One version though the fairy leaves the baby with a random man, so I’d be ok with Mo being an adopted father.  I also like Belle as the ‘laugh momma” to Tink, in the original way that Barrie describes fairies as being born from a baby’s first laugh.

Screwball Ninja on Tumblr did a whole essay about TinkerMomma that describes that original version of Beauty and the Beast really well and it makes me feel if they don’t do it, well they should have!

http://screwballninja.tumblr.com/post/64411953254/tinkerbell-is-related-to-whom-rampant

 

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

[PanTheMan]

It’s also possible Belle has spent so much time with Rumple and other magical beings that she has developed a blood magic like Baelfire and Henry. She’s not untouched by magic.

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