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December 9, 2013 at 6:50 am #229069PheeParticipant
Something I noticed on re-watch, which might mean nothing, or might mean something…Blue’s shadow was taken really easily. When we saw Neal, Hook, and Henry all having their shadows taken, they resisted for some time. With Blue, her shadow just got yanked right on outta there like she wasn’t even really trying to hold onto it.
[adrotate group="5"]December 9, 2013 at 7:12 am #229071timespacerParticipantHere’s my own personal theory: Blue really did die, but there’s still the chance she can be revived. I think Tink will possibly revive Blue by believing in her: think the classic “I do believe in fairies. I do, I do” bit from Peter Pan. And in return for Tink reviving her, Blue will give Tink back her wings. So Blue could be brought back to life, while the rest of your Sneak Fairy conspiracists still get to continue your cute like crack. =p
I agree. The first thing I thought of when I saw her killed was the scene you cited from Peter Pan where Tink is revived by belief. I think they may have foreshadowed it a bit last week with Wendy’s comment to Tinker Bell that, “I believe in you, Tink.” We all just have to clap our hands!
I also think it made sense that Pan wanted to get rid of Blue because she is the most powerful practitioner of good magic and might have been a major threat to him, especially if he learned more about her from Henry’s book. And I still maintain that Blue is good, not sneaky! I recently saw a book about why otherwise intelligent people sometimes believe in conspiracy theories. Perhaps I should read it to understand the weight of opinion against poor Blue! 8>)
December 9, 2013 at 7:21 am #229074RumplesGirlKeymasterSpeaking of odd things: wasn’t it daylight when the shadow was ripping Blue’s shadow off? I thought the shadow feared light? Different world, different rules?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 9, 2013 at 7:31 am #229079kfchimeraParticipantI could see it going either way.
Yes, killing an iconic good character like Blue gives more moral weight to kill Pan to our heroes. Yet they already had reason to judge him for trying to kill them (dreamshade tipped poison, threats, ripping out Henry’s heart) and kidnapping. He did also kill Greg (same way) and Tamara (she was shot with the poison arrow, though Rumple actually killed her) and give the orders for them to activate the fail-safe–so attempted genocide. Plus he apparently kept children prisoner for hundreds of years. Do they really need a final straw here? I do not think so.
Cora did not kill any of their “friends” other than newly introduced JoHanna and they killed off Cora. Regina killed Graham and is on redemption road. I do not think therefore that they need to approach it like Star Trek to establish danger there must be death–there are worse fates as they said on Wonderland.
Maguffin usually means a contrived prize that motivates the characters,like the golden compass to go find it and achieve some end. Blue has not been developed well but she is rarely the reason the way Henry is written, or how Bae was written in season 1/2. She has never been a goal herself.
Instead she is in that odd space of being described as powerful and sometimes actually having power but then other times being ineffectual. I think in a lot of ways her part of the story is done, so she is an easy character for them to eliminate to create the heightened danger/moral authority but not so dear as to lose fans who only watch or mainly watch for that character.
Ratings need improvement. Shock deaths are no good if they ruin the feel of the show to where it is too dark as this is NOT the dark fantasy to horror genre. Yes it has had moments teasing along the line but it settled on the Disney feel good not disturbed side (for the most part).
So Blue dying is disturbing but not so hard to take as they made her less sympathetic with Tink, and made Tink very sympathetic.
Still PP’s story traditionally does have a fairy die in the play version, but she revives with belief. In the book it is implied she dies anyway as fairies have short life spans.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
December 9, 2013 at 7:35 am #229080DemiletoParticipantSpeaking of odd things: wasn’t it daylight when the shadow was ripping Blue’s shadow off? I thought the shadow feared light? Different world, different rules?
We saw the Shadow in the flashbacks of “Think Lovely Thoughts” during daylight as well.
December 9, 2013 at 7:39 am #229081TheWatcherParticipantSomething I noticed on re-watch, which might mean nothing, or might mean something…Blue’s shadow was taken really easily. When we saw Neal, Hook, and Henry all having their shadows taken, they resisted for some time. With Blue, her shadow just got yanked right on outta there like she wasn’t even really trying to hold onto it.
Thats a good observation and goes along with the theory I had last night. Blue isn’t dead and all that happened was planned by her. The purple eyed shadow (not pans shadow, I mean the one who impersonated Belle and turned Malcolm into a boy) is Blue! Or atleast its her shadow. There are some reasons I think this is so: Rue Ghorem means Blue Star and Morraine said she was a creature that ruled NIGHT. She said she’d heard this from soldiera on the battlefield, correct? Well those soldiers would most likely be young enough to go to NL in their dreams where they would have heard/seen of Rue. Even Rump was surprised she was a fairy and notice how both the shadows are summoned. To summon the NL shadow, a child looks to a star and says “I believe”. To summon Blue, a person looks to the star and says “I summon thee Rue Gorem”. Its very similar. I think Pan only took Blues shadow only because he knows who she is and she was just telling him what to do next in their plan. Also, the NL shadow said he was the sole inhabitant of NL. If blue is the queen fairy then SHE is the sole inhabitant of NL >> idk why we didn’t notice this before.
Can some post screen caps of the scene to see what the shadows look like? If the eyes are purple, hidden, or the hair is similar to the NL shadow then we have reasons to be suspicious >>
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Interesting theory.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 9, 2013 at 8:57 am #229091PheeParticipantCan some post screen caps of the scene to see what the shadows look like?
Shadow that impersonated Belle…
Shadow that took Blue’s shadow, (there wasn’t a shot of Blue’s shadow’s eyes)…
December 9, 2013 at 9:07 am #229093storytellerParticipantI may be going off the deep end here, but I’m getting the sense that Blue is dead in the strictest bodily sense of the word. I’m also getting a funny feeling that the reason she nodded to the cricket, the “preparations” she was making, the reason Archie approached Regina in 2×02 to help Regina find who she truly is, the reason Cora doppelgänged as Blue, the reason Rumple took an interest in the Mills women, and why Blue tried to scare off Tink from helping Regina all point to one thing. That is in my opinion Blue is family to Regina namely a maternal grandmother and that is the source of Regina’s magic which I suspect would be far stronger if she had stuck to the straight and narrow. Granted the evidence is circumstantial but what me drove towards this were a couple of short blips on the promo for next week. 1) Regina casting an obviously powerful spell and having a facial reaction that if anything seemed pensive and tinged with sadness. 2) A brief shot of Regina with a tear in her eye (granted Regina’s tears have been shed like clockwork over the series) which begs the question who or what in this episode could elicit such a response? Of course all will be answered on Sun. (one would hope) and this theory may be put to bed, but all the same something is up with Pan wanting Blue out of the way and all these loose ends relating to Blue.
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December 9, 2013 at 9:23 am #229095RumplesGirlKeymasterhat is in my opinion Blue is family to Regina namely a maternal grandmother and that is the source of Regina’s magic which I suspect would be far stronger if she had stuck to the straight and narrow
Hmm. If Blue has a secret family then her sneakiness goes up about 100 notches given what she has said to Dreamy/Grumpy in “Dreamy” about fairies and love.
However, I sorta doubt that she’s related to anyone. Blue was far too rigid about love and “what is fairy like” to ever break her own rules once she set them. We know she has been around for a long time, and my personal headcanon is that she did love at one time but it when she tried to make her lover immortal (but stabbing him in the heart with an enchanted dagger) she created the Dark One’s Curse and has been attempting to rectify that for centuries, through any means necessary. I think the Shadow went after Blue on Pan’s order because they had worked together in the past to bring about some of the necessary plot developments we’ve seen over 3 seasons.
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