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October 1, 2012 at 5:28 pm #134927SnickerdoodleParticipant
So, when Snow finally confronts Emma that she doesn’t seem so happy, Emma explains that all she has known is that she was given away to which Snow replies we were giving you you’re best chance, but to Emma all she sees is that she has been alone to which Snow replies but you would have been cursed, and Emma says, “yeah. but we would have been together.” But the flaw in her thinking here is that they would have been together, but they wouldn’t have known who each other was and then there would have been no one to break the curse. AGREE or DISAGREE?
[adrotate group="5"]October 1, 2012 at 6:10 pm #154920dorothyParticipantTricky question.
Well, you would have to look at it from Emma’s perspective. She’s been alone for all her life without parents, and to find out that her parents were actually really heroic people who gave her up is probably like a punch in the stomach to her. Maybe throughout the years she’d been bracing herself to find out that her parents may not have been the best types of people to live with and she might have been better off without them. It probably doesn’t matter to Emma, because like she said, all it matters to her is that they gave her away. Which to her probably means “They didn’t want me.”
You can’t really wipe away 28 years of hurt feelings with a hug.
October 1, 2012 at 6:22 pm #154923rcaret7zParticipantWhile Emma may have a flawed way of thinking, I believe it was the only way for her to survive and be who she is today. So, I agree that she is flawed but I also disagree that she had to remain that way to get to where she is now. This probably has to do with the way “I” am today. Although, I believe it is never too late to correct a mistake! 🙂 Also, you may not be able to erase what has happened in the past (for what reason; character is a difficult thing to build but much easier to deny) but should you decide to take a higher road, you will always feel better in “the end” and therefore it is important that you make the effort to do so! :ugeek:
😎October 1, 2012 at 6:36 pm #154926antbeeParticipant@Dorothy wrote:
Tricky question.
Well, you would have to look at it from Emma’s perspective. She’s been alone for all her life without parents, and to find out that her parents were actually really heroic people who gave her up is probably like a punch in the stomach to her. Maybe throughout the years she’d been bracing herself to find out that her parents may not have been the best types of people to live with and she might have been better off without them. It probably doesn’t matter to Emma, because like she said, all it matters to her is that they gave her away. Which to her probably means “They didn’t want me.”
You can’t really wipe away 28 years of hurt feelings with a hug.
Yes, I agree that she was flawed in her thinking, but it’s understandable at that time because she was so overcome with emotion.
Hopefully, later on, she’ll realize that she did the same thing to Henry. Plus, I think there was zero chance of them staying together as a family had the Charmings not sent Emma to this world in the wardrobe. Either Regina would have killed baby Emma because of the threat that she could cause later on or raised baby Emma as her own. So I hope that she realizes that later on.
Right now I’ll cut her a break though because she wasn’t thinking clearly, but if she continues to mope all season about it, then I hope the other characters point out how flawed she sounds.
October 2, 2012 at 2:34 am #155010schmackyParticipantI’m sorry but I hate when people say that Emma did the same thing to Henry. Especially from her POV. Emma put him up for adoption because she literally could not take care of that child as she was in jail. Once she got out of jail, yes she could have fought to get him back but if he was already placed in a home (and he was as he was adopted when he was 3 weeks old) she felt he had a better chance at life and love than what someone right out of jail could provide.
Emma was found on the side of a highway. That’s not being put up for adoption. That’s not even being cared for at all. Crazy people who don’t want their kids and don’t know how to take them to a hospital or church do that. From her POV she wasn’t just given away. She was abandoned. She was basically left for dead if someone hadn’t found her.
That’s a big difference.
But anyway, I don’t think she was flawed in her thinking per say. Either way, Emma was destined for a crap life. Cursed either way. But in her defense, she didn’t want to talk about it right then. The girl still needed to process everything. I think, at that point, it had been only an hour or something since the curse broke. She wanted to wait for that talk so she could clear and organize her thoughts. I think her talk with Snow was just.. a mix mosh of emotions and thoughts.
October 2, 2012 at 2:51 am #155016rcaret7zParticipant@Schmacky wrote:
But in her defense, she didn’t want to talk about it right then. The girl still needed to process everything.
I couldn’t agree more… I think her father attempted to hint to her mother that it may have been the wrong time to have a “mother and daughter” chat. I know it would be a lot for me to digest if after everything else happening and now to find out about what may have happened in the past, without getting a proper start out on life (without so much as a parent or guardian, that is kind of “Sugar Hot Iced Tea +ty”). I can’t answer for anyone that has had that happen to them but major props to them should they make “something out of nothing” (such as making a good name for themselves).
October 2, 2012 at 2:58 am #155017hannah97ParticipantYes, Emma was flawed in her thinking. As soon as I heard her say that, I knew she was wrong. True, she has been alone all her life and I understand that, but does she honestly think they would have been together when they were cursed? She would have been stuck as a newborn for forever, and she probably would have been separated from her parents too. That is the nature of the curse, after all, to take away the happy endings. She’d probably end up all alone in the hospital.
October 2, 2012 at 3:56 am #155034antbeeParticipant@Schmacky wrote:
I’m sorry but I hate when people say that Emma did the same thing to Henry. Especially from her POV. Emma put him up for adoption because she literally could not take care of that child as she was in jail. Once she got out of jail, yes she could have fought to get him back but if he was already placed in a home (and he was as he was adopted when he was 3 weeks old) she felt he had a better chance at life and love than what someone right out of jail could provide.
Emma was found on the side of a highway. That’s not being put up for adoption. That’s not even being cared for at all. Crazy people who don’t want their kids and don’t know how to take them to a hospital or church do that. From her POV she wasn’t just given away. She was abandoned. She was basically left for dead if someone hadn’t found her.
That’s a big difference.
But anyway, I don’t think she was flawed in her thinking per say. Either way, Emma was destined for a crap life. Cursed either way. But in her defense, she didn’t want to talk about it right then. The girl still needed to process everything. I think, at that point, it had been only an hour or something since the curse broke. She wanted to wait for that talk so she could clear and organize her thoughts. I think her talk with Snow was just.. a mix mosh of emotions and thoughts.
I see what you’re saying, and I get that, but in the context of the show Henry was still adopted by the Evil Queen. So even though Emma was trying to give Henry his best start in life, he still ended up in a terrible place.
I don’t think Snow and Charming had much choice because either Emma would be raised by the Evil Queen or someone else, and no one would ever escape the Curse, or worse, the Evil Queen would kill Emma and everyone would still be cursed forever. So I hope Emma comes to realize that later on that there’s no way that they would have been together had they not sent her through the Wardrobe.
October 2, 2012 at 3:59 am #155036Killian JonesParticipantYou know what they way it looked if Charming and Snow don’t get Emma to our world the Evil Queen may well have just killed baby Emma. That would get rid of any chance of breaking the curse. A little dark I know but I think putting Emma in that wardrobe not only gave Emma her best chance but really saved her life…
October 2, 2012 at 4:04 am #155038JosephineParticipantI always thought, too, by the pilot that Regina would have had the baby killed. Just they way she talks to her guards.
I think Emma is going to need time and patience to work everything out in her head and heart.
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