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February 18, 2013 at 4:36 pm #136024Daniel J. LewisKeymaster
The seer said said:
You will be reunited with your son and it will come in a most unexpected way. A boy, a young boy will lead you to him, but beware, Rumplestiltskin, for that boy is more than he appears. He will lead you to what you seek, but there will be a price. The boy will be your undoing.
Many things in “Manhattan” leads us to believe that the prophesied boy is Henry. But is he really?
Who was the first “boy” to find Neal? August, AKA Pinocchio. That was the first boy to find Neal and know that Neal was Baelfire. We already know that “boy” is more than he appears—he was wooden, he somehow knew the truth about Bae, he was connected with Emma, and it’s possible that August wrote the book.
So with this new consideration, are we so sure that the boy who will be Rumplestiltskin’s undoing is really Henry? What if it’s August?
[adrotate group="5"]February 18, 2013 at 4:42 pm #174081SlurpeezParticipantYes, this could well be the case. I think August is the one who brought baby Henry from Phoenix, AZ, to Storybrooke, ME. Also, August meddled to make sure Baelfire didn’t distract Emma from her destiny. So, indirectly, August/Pinocchio could be responsible for Henry going to SB, Emma returning with Henry to SB, Emma breaking the curse, and Emma eventually leading Mr. Gold to Baelfire.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
February 18, 2013 at 7:47 pm #174153TheGoldenKeyParticipantThat’s an interesting twist, especially in lieu of some spoilers and pics that are out there.
I think that Henry is indeed the boy. I also believe that Rumple’s undoing doesn’t mean destruction as in death. I think it means undoing as in reverting back to his real self, pre Dark One days. In my mind, I think Rumple will end up sacrificing himself for the sake of young Henry. Interesting that they made Rumple the Beast, who in the real story, dies and is transformed and resurrected by Belle. In Narnia, we see the White Witch use a dagger to kill Aslan who had sacrificed himself for the Narnians. The story of giving up one’s life in sacrifice holds no copyright because it’s the oldest and truest story ever told . So I would hope that we will see Rumple give the ultimate sacrifice, his life for Henry’s, and in turn we see the Dark One die, dagger is shattered and the real Rumple is saved, transformed and resurrected just as the Beast was.
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February 18, 2013 at 8:12 pm #174157MysteryKat25ParticipantIt’s an interesting thought for sure. Both boys led him in a way to Bae. On rewatch of Manhattan, Rumple even sorta thanks Henry and acknowledges that he put all of this in motion by bringing Emma to SB so I have a feeling he will at least channel it to Henry even if it was meant to be somebody else (like Pinocchio).
The whole prophecy thing kinda reminds me of Harry Potter – ironically there were 2 options for that one as well and he chose one making things go the way they did (trying to be vague). We’ll see if Rumple goes the self-fulfilling route (again) or if he’s learned anything. I don’t want anything to happen to Henry, and Bae would really never forgive him if it did so here’s hoping.
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February 20, 2013 at 4:26 am #172696obisgirlParticipantI think Henry is the prophecised boy. I was worried in FT land when Rumpel said that he would kill the boy, because that would mean that he would kill Henry in Storybrooke just to maintain his power. And this would be the second time that Henry’s life was on the line.
But no, I think the prophecy means that Rumpel will gain his redemption through Henry and maybe like Emma, Henry has a super power too.
February 20, 2013 at 8:18 am #174427ChrisParticipantI agree with Daniel here. Henry would be way to obvious and a prophecy usually is ambigous and open to interpretation. What speaks against it though is that the Seer said “a young boy”. Pinocchio doesn’t really qualify as young when he found Neal.
Yet, he was young when he came through the wardrobe with Emma. If he hadn’t taken care of Emma, none of these events would have happened and Henry might have never been born.This whole prophecy has a bit of a Macbeth feeling to it. As “undoing”, could also mean a fatal flaw. His newfound grandson, who is currently wanted by two of his old pupils, qualifies as that. Rumple is getting one more weakness Cora can exploit in her quest for power.
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February 20, 2013 at 2:28 pm #174456Daniel J. LewisKeymaster@Chris wrote:
What speaks against it though is that the Seer said “a young boy”. Pinocchio doesn’t really qualify as young when he found Neal.
Ah, yes. That seems to disqualify August.
As it turns out, I wasn’t the first one with this theory. I listened to the Roney’s OUAT Fan podcast “first thoughts” (their equivalent to our initial reactions) and Colleen had a very similar theory.
February 20, 2013 at 2:39 pm #174459SlurpeezParticipantOnly read if you want to be spoiled: There are pictures of August turning back into a young boy in the upcoming episode “Selfless, Brave, and True,” which could keep him in the running.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
February 20, 2013 at 10:47 pm #174559PriceofMagicParticipant@Chris wrote:
As “undoing”, could also mean a fatal flaw. His newfound grandson, who is currently wanted by two of his old pupils, qualifies as that. Rumple is getting one more weakness Cora can exploit in her quest for power.
I agree, “undoing” could mean weakness. In this episode, they were emphasising the importance of separating the can bes from the will bes and that what you see is never what you think.
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Keeper of FelixFebruary 20, 2013 at 10:55 pm #174560GrimmsisterParticipant@PriceofMagic wrote:
@Chris wrote:
As “undoing”, could also mean a fatal flaw. His newfound grandson, who is currently wanted by two of his old pupils, qualifies as that. Rumple is getting one more weakness Cora can exploit in her quest for power.
I agree, “undoing” could mean weakness. In this episode, they were emphasising the importance of separating the can bes from the will bes and that what you see is never what you think.
Oh yes! that is good thinking 🙂
Henry can be his weakness- because love is a weakness- and now Rumple might have, as so many have mentioned, granfatherly love for Henry. And if Cora finds the knife…hm you could be on to something here!
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