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June 28, 2016 at 4:40 pm #325126AidenXJeffreyParticipant
This is something that has been on my heart for a while and I knew I needed to share, but never got around to doing it until now, so here it goes.
Cora had mentioned that Hades, the Lord of the Underworld couldn’t be changed by something as simple as love and during the podcast, Jacklyn mentioned that love is not simple, it’s complicated, and I would have to disagree. Love is simple. Love is not complicated. It’s complex, but not complicated. Love becomes complicated, when we as humans try to box it in, define what it is through our own experiences, our own reasonings, our own pride in trying to figure everything out and have an answer instead of allowing love to be love. We make it complicated through our own pride, insecurities, through lust, through so many earthly/worldly things.
Look at Snow and Charming for instance. When they first met, immediately there was attraction and they knew that they were meant to be together, but circumstances, insecurities, their junk got in the way of what love was doing, something so simple, not to mention, King George wanted Charming’s head.
Love is complex because of the fact that someone so ugly, so unruly (Rumplestiltskin) can be loved by another who’s wiling to not judge them on their deeds, but their heart, what truly lies underneath the beast (Belle), yet one makes it complicated because they feel that because of their insecurities, their pride, even their physical appearance and even past relationships, that no one could ever love them.
Instead of resting and trusting in what love has done and what loves wants to continue to do (Emma), one pushes another away in the fear, the insecurity of losing their loved one (Killian) just as they have lost their other loved ones (Baelfire and Graham).
Instead of allowing love in and letting go of the past (Regina) to love another, their soulmate (Robin), one allows themselves to be riddled with hate, anger and unforgiveness toward an unlikely adversary (Snow White) because of an EXTREMELY HUGE misunderstanding. (And that’s a whole topic in itself)
My point is, is that love is indeed simple, but in our own strength or weaknesses, pride, insecurities, struggles, set-backs, whatever it may be, is what makes it complicated. It’s simple to grasp, yet too complex to understand. but I believe if we as a people just rest and allow things such as love to play out and take action when need be and let go of trying to understand or define what it should look like, I think we could be a HECK of a lot happier and less manic lol.
Thank you for allowing me to speak and thank you for having this open forum for us to debate these different concepts and ideals. You all are awesome.
[adrotate group="5"]June 28, 2016 at 5:34 pm #325128PriceofMagicParticipantLove is strength and weakness, simple and complicated, easy and hard. Love can be the best and worst thing to happen to you. Love can trap and set you free. Love can not be summed up in one word. Love is a contradiction.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixJune 28, 2016 at 5:45 pm #325134RumplesGirlKeymasterLove is strength and weakness, simple and complicated, easy and hard. Love can be the best and worst thing to happen to you. Love can trap and set you free. Love can not be summed up in one word. Love is a contradiction.
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"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"June 29, 2016 at 1:03 am #325154TheWatcherParticipantLove is strength and weakness, simple and complicated, easy and hard. Love can be the best and worst thing to happen to you. Love can trap and set you free. Love can not be summed up in one word. Love is a contradiction.
Is…is this a quote? Is this from a book? I like this, Put it on my headstone, please. But yes, I completely agree with this..
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICJune 29, 2016 at 5:44 am #325156sciencevsmagicParticipantAnswering this question begins with semantics. What is love? To avoid getting overly pedantic, I’m going to assume (correct me if I’m wrong) that you are referring to the feeling of romantic love. I see this as a combination of sexual attraction combined with deep affection. As far as I know, this feeling arises spontaneously and cannot be forced. What gives rise to romantic love? There is no comprehensive answer known, only that it is dependent on many variables, both internal and external. Complexity is defined as: composed of many interconnected parts or characterized by a very complicated arrangement of parts. So, I’d say that romantic love fits the definition of complex. I’m not quite sure how you are differentiating between complex and complicated, so I’ll leave that part alone.
Interestingly, you seem to be conflating the feeling of romantic love with the process of making a long term romantic relationship work. I would argue that the two are independent; feelings of romantic love do not, and sometimes should not, necessarily lead to a relationship nor are they critical for a long term relationship to work. In fact, that’s a relatively modern idea which is still not common in many cultures. Love is ONE aspect of making a relationship work. Others include compatibility, choice and commitment. Television usually glorifies the love aspect of relationships while giving little or no regard to the other three. The implication is that if you are REALLY in love, you should be able to find a way to get married and be happy. This is quite untrue. Most of the OUAT couples’ problems lie in compatibility, not in love. Two people can be completely in love but just not have matching lifestyle or values. Getting back to the question of complexity, it’s my opinion that making a relationship work also involves many factors and is therefore, complex.
Lol, my dry, reductionistic answer is such a stark contrast to @PriceOfMagic’s poetic one!
June 29, 2016 at 11:51 am #325159PriceofMagicParticipantLove is strength and weakness, simple and complicated, easy and hard. Love can be the best and worst thing to happen to you. Love can trap and set you free. Love can not be summed up in one word. Love is a contradiction.
Is…is this a quote? Is this from a book? I like this, Put it on my headstone, please. But yes, I completely agree with this..
I made it up lol.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixJune 29, 2016 at 12:40 pm #325161Sci-Fi GirlParticipantLove is strength and weakness, simple and complicated, easy and hard. Love can be the best and worst thing to happen to you. Love can trap and set you free. Love can not be summed up in one word. Love is a contradiction.
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