Is this series only about Hook?

[Phee]

I’m assuming he plans to kill Rumple by stabbing him with the dagger. I speculated recently that Hook would in fact stab him, but it wouldn’t kill him, and Belle’s love would somehow save him, and then the Dark One curse will cease to exist because it can’t go back into Rumple, and if Rumple’s not dead, then it can’t move on to someone new either. If something like that happened, Hook would inadvertantly save Rumple’s soul whilst attempting to kill him, which would be sort of poetic…and would piss Hook right off…the moment he’s been plotting for almost 300 years, and it all goes completely wrong…talk about unsatisfying revenge.

[oncewatcher]

@Phee wrote:

I’m assuming he plans to kill Rumple by stabbing him with the dagger. I speculated recently that Hook would in fact stab him, but it wouldn’t kill him, and Belle’s love would somehow save him, and then the Dark One curse will cease to exist because it can’t go back into Rumple, and if Rumple’s not dead, then it can’t move on to someone new either. If something like that happened, Hook would inadvertantly save Rumple’s soul whilst attempting to kill him, which would be sort of poetic…and would piss Hook right off…the moment he’s been plotting for almost 300 years, and it all goes completely wrong…talk about unsatisfying revenge.

Or, it could teach Hook a good lesson about how good always defeats evil, and which side of the fence he’d be better served to be standing on.

[PriceofMagic]

Neither Hook nor Rumple are the type to forget and forgive. Hook has spent too long focussed on his quest for revenge to let Rumple get away with what he did. The two characters can’t coexist peacefully in the same town. Either one has to kill the other or Hook has to leave Storybrooke.

All magic comes with a price!

Keeper of Felix

[oncewatcher]

@PriceofMagic wrote:

Neither Hook nor Rumple are the type to forget and forgive. Hook has spent too long focussed on his quest for revenge to let Rumple get away with what he did. The two characters can’t coexist peacefully in the same town. Either one has to kill the other or Hook has to leave Storybrooke.

I don’t know, people do change.

I know that from first-hand experience .

[gigi]

@Oncewatcher wrote:

@PriceofMagic wrote:

Neither Hook nor Rumple are the type to forget and forgive. Hook has spent too long focussed on his quest for revenge to let Rumple get away with what he did. The two characters can’t coexist peacefully in the same town. Either one has to kill the other or Hook has to leave Storybrooke.

I don’t know, people do change.

I know that from first-hand experience.

He roots for revenge 250 years, I think he hardly changes it now. One of them has to die or leaves the town.

[oncewatcher]

Again, I’d like to see the peak of this story take the high road. That would send a much better message than solving a problems by killing (yet, another death), or with revenge.

[PriceofMagic]

The thing is they can’t redeem every single villain that appears on the show. They can show the motivations behind the villain’s actions and show that good and evil isn’t simply black and white but the audience will get bored if every villain becomes good.

Rumple is not going to be happy having Hook around Storybrooke. He knows Hook has a vendetta against him and, given Hook’s history stealing Rumple’s woman, Rumple isn’t going to want Hook anywhere near Belle.

Hook has already spent half the season saying he’s going to kill Rumple. To change his mind would be very sudden and unrealistic. Plus they are going to have to make room for next season’s villains. Hook’s been tied to the revenge plot, outside of that he’s not really got much going on.

I’m not saying they necessarily have to kill Hook off, but they can’t leave him and Rumple in the same town and expect them to get on. It’s not in their characters.

They’re already doing the redemption/ changing for the bettter arcs with Regina and Rumple.

All magic comes with a price!

Keeper of Felix

[gigi]

I know, I want it to be like that too. But look at our characters, both are hothead maniac villains. Do you really think they could “group hug” and forget eveything after all the things that happened? I highly doubt that and can’t imagine the situation that let peace between the two :S

[antbee]

@PriceofMagic wrote:

Neither Hook nor Rumple are the type to forget and forgive. Hook has spent too long focused on his quest for revenge to let Rumple get away with what he did. The two characters can’t coexist peacefully in the same town. Either one has to kill the other or Hook has to leave Storybrooke.

Yes, I agree. I don’t know if they’ll kill him off because he does seem to be a fan favorite now, but they could potentially just banish/send him off to somewhere else to pop in whenever he’s needed.

I don’t think he’ll get his revenge because Rumple is connected to so many people’s stories, and he still has a lot of growing to do before they’ll potentially kill him off. So if Hook doesn’t get his revenge this time, I just can’t see him staying on the show and redeeming himself because his whole life for almost 300 years has just been for that one purpose.

In some ways, it’s like Rumple’s drive in reuniting with Bae being behind everything he’s done for almost the same amount of time, but we know that will eventually have a payoff for Rumple in finding Bae again, not the one he probably wants, but a payoff nonetheless that will most likely lead to Rumple really changing instead of saying he will like he does with Belle and then doing something behind her back again. They could redeem Hook, but I think he’s more like a learning lesson for mostly Rumple but other characters on the show to look at and know that they could turn out like he did if they only focus on getting revenge.

I’m assuming he plans to kill Rumple by stabbing him with the dagger. I speculated recently that Hook would in fact stab him, but it wouldn’t kill him, and Belle’s love would somehow save him, and then the Dark One curse will cease to exist because it can’t go back into Rumple, and if Rumple’s not dead, then it can’t move on to someone new either. If something like that happened, Hook would inadvertantly save Rumple’s soul whilst attempting to kill him, which would be sort of poetic…and would piss Hook right off…the moment he’s been plotting for almost 300 years, and it all goes completely wrong…talk about unsatisfying revenge.

Yes, it would be like Disney’s Beauty and the Beast with Hook in the Gaston role, and it would change the direction of the show with Rumple not being the Dark One anymore and struggling with maybe feeling powerless and wanting to do dark magic again so he doesn’t feel like that, but also struggling with how much damage he’s done to Nealfire’s life and of those that Neal loves and cares about. Plus, it would fit in with how the villains’ plans backfire on them and end up helping their enemies in the end. Regina wants to get rid of Emma, so she tries to poison her which leads to Henry dying, which results in Emma finally believing and the Curse breaking. Regina wants to be the one to keep Snow and Charming apart, so she helps save Charming’s life from King George. Regina wants to keep Belle as a chess piece, so she helps save Belle’s life from Hook.

[playarita]

@Sarah_TN wrote:

@abowlingball wrote:

Don’t know how many other guys post here but I got to say getting a bit much on the boards with all this obsessiveness about Hook. There are plenty of other people on the show to talk about but lately board seems like a teen fan page for Collin O’Donoghue.

No, it’s not just about Hook. Maybe you just don’t like that people are talking about him (or can like him without your permission).

There is no need for the defensiveness (and the quip about permission I find mildly offensive as they seem to be talking about the type of threads and quantity when there is at least two threads that can contain the chatter and have it be discussed nicely rather than discussing about it in a chatter-like way).

The issue that some have noticed is not necessarily the amount of chatter because we all have been fangirls/boys (or fans) at point or another (or maybe not). But rather there has been a few threads of overzealous fans about Hook staying, thanking for hook etc.

I get the passion I really do but that might be better suited for general discussion. I am aware that there several threads that are about specific aspects about a character–though seem to be theorizing and that too would be better suited for general discussion. It would be up to a moderator’s interpretation. I am aware that general discussion material–though most seem (not all) of a theorizing nature rather than chatter–does exist for all characters but right now Hook is the it person because he is new, he is handsome, etc.

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