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Second that. Bonus points if Belle gets to take a gal pal with her like Ruby or Mulan.
I still have a very faint glimmer of hope *shudder* that they could do more with Mulan at some point. They’ve clearly washed their hands of Red though, and there was that one time when they already showed her about to leave town, so I’m fine with her being Belle’s travel buddy, at least then there’d be an actual reason why Red’s never seen.
[adrotate group="5"]So I started running through other residents of SB to see who else is available, and for 5 seconds I shipped WoodenBeauty (because the writer and the girl who adores books).But then I decided that Belle should leave town. If Rumple dies, she inherits his wealth, and uses that money to go and travel around the world, exploring all the things, seeing all the places, learning about all the people and cultures. Even not having Rumple, that would be a happy ending for her, because it’s what she’s always dreamed of, even before Rumple was in her life. His (death) proving her the resources to make her dream come true would keep him as part of her happiness even though he’s not there with her.
I like this. And in fact, how about a combination? August, after all, did a lot of traveling, so how about they go off and travel the world together, but not as romantic partners, but as travel buddies and friends. And if a romance develops, well, we’re not privy to it, and it’s none of our business 🙂 — curtain drawn, left to the audience’s imagination. For OUAT, that would be *shudder* #BoldStorytelling
I am on board with Belle taking Rumple’s money, crossing the line and exploring the world. It had always been her dream and she never got it. If Rumple dies then what ties does Belle actually have to anyone in Storybrooke besides her father? She’s just a source of information. And if Bobby would actually leave Once, I don’t know that Emilie would really want to stay. She might, but she might not want to do it.
What she doesn’t need is another romantic entanglement. She needs to have some serious “me” time.
Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.
I still want Rumbelle back together! No, they aren’t the kind of couple that I would ever support realistically, but I think that Rumple can still be redeemed. However, this is his absolute last chance. I think that in the last few episodes he’s finally started to realize that he can’t have it all, doesn’t believe that Belle loves him anymore, and just wants the author to rewrite his fate so that he can preserve his humanity. I think there is going to be a major twist, and Isaac/the author is going to end up being the true antagonist working against both the heroes and the villains or maybe by working with Zelena. Honestly, if they kill off Rumple Storybrooke will just get way too normal and boring. He’s the only one connected to everything with a long enough history to keep things going on this show.
I don’t think Rumple is actually going to die. The “death” he mentioned to heartless Belle seemed to be more of a metaphorical nature rather than a literal one.
I still want Rumbelle back together! No, they aren’t the kind of couple that I would ever support realistically, but I think that Rumple can still be redeemed.
I agree. Also, I don’t think ANY couple on the show are really ones you would ever support in real life but something about the show being heightened fiction enables the audience to have a kind permission to ship in a way they wouldn’t do in their every day life.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixI agree. Also, I don’t think ANY couple on the show are really ones you would ever support in real life but something about the show being heightened fiction enables the audience to have a kind permission to ship in a way they wouldn’t do in their every day life.
The fact that we feel we need “permission” to ship anything on this show really says it all: it’s wrong, it’s amoral, and it’s not something that should be promoted as true love. Every TV show is heightened fiction. You know what else is heightened fiction? 50 Shades of Grey, a story that is absolutely couched in rape culture and misogyny (not to mention butchering the English language). This isn’t just “heightened fiction”–it’s a fictionalized version of real world examples of abusive relationships where cycles of violence and abuse and manipulation are never broken.
The fact that we hand wave it away with “yeah, this relationship is super problematic and I would never ever support it real life because of how problematic it is, but I totally can support it here on TV where it doesn’t matter…” again, says it all. TV is not your cue to turn off your brains. It is your chance to analyze the world around you and what media says we should support, not support, and how we should feel.
If Belle goes back to Rumple because “we redeemed him with some magic this-that-or-the-other” then it’s promotion of an abusive relationship as true love. It’s terrifying to think that little girls and boys are watching this show and thinking “oh so this all totally okay.”
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumBelle is not abusive. None of the main relationships on the show are abusive. Some are a bit more morally grey than others but they’re not abusive. When I said “something about the show being heightened fiction enables the audience to have a kind permission to ship in a way they wouldn’t do in their every day life” I meant that in real life, you wouldn’t want to meet a Rumple, Regina, Hook etc but on this show you root for them because you are shown what they’re about, what makes them tick, etc. On other shows, you might root for a villain because you don’t like a character. Example: In Gotham, people don’t like Barbara to the point where they were rooting for the Ogre to kill her.
TV is escapism. No you shouldn’t “turn off your brains” and just accept what you are show as the way things should be, believe it or not most people can distinguish between a work of fiction and actual reality. People will ship the ships they want to ship and disregard the ones they don’t for whatever reasons they may be. People will kick up a fuss if they feel something has crossed a line. People don’t just dumbly accept the media they are fed.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixRumBelle is not abusive
Physically? No. Emotionally, absolutely. He toys with people the same way he toys with words. He put her through the wringer. He lied to her. He manipulated her. He used her. He is going to destroy people she cares about. He HURT HER. He made her doubt herself. He made her not trust her instincts. Not all abuse is physical. And now he thinks that he can simply rewrite his happy ending using the Author to have it all–giving her NO CHOICE in the matter.
TV is escapism
No, it’s really not. It’s not a way to escape your life. It holds a mirror up to that life and asks you judge it. It is not a way to simply ignore the world around.
ETA: I took me half an hour but I finally found what I was looking for. From my “Love and Romance” thread of a year ago. This is from @Myril and it encapsulates what I’m saying.
Escapism or grounded in the real world? You can’t decently escape unless you can identify with characters and/or story, and a character can be someone you would wish to be like or someone who is in many ways like you are but doing things better (most of the time). Be it one or the other, characters have a connection to us as we are in the real world. Furthermore even if a show is meant as escapism it reflects on the real world and its issues, if we like that or not, if we are aware of it or not. It doesn’t matter if an audience wants to take a fictional show as something reflecting on their reality, it always does anyway, questioning or upholding believes and views and societal images. And we never can watch or read fiction without our very own bias, based on our believes and experiences.
believe it or not most people can distinguish between a work of fiction and actual reality
Really? Golly, tell me more!
Of course they can. EXCEPT when they realize that the work of fiction is incredibly problematic but refuse to call it as such because it makes them uncomfortable to acknowledge that something they love is super problematic. People will bury their heads in the sand and refuse to call a spade a spade because they don’t want to face the fact that a piece of media they love is sending out a lot of red flags.
People don’t just dumbly accept the media they are fed.
…yes they do.
No really. They do. It’s only quite recently (thanks in large part to social media) that dissenters are becoming more widely recognized. You know how I know that people dumbly accept the media they are fed? Because TV hasn’t been shut down or revamped but instead falls into the same pitfalls that it always had Because when those dissenters point out the moral and ethical flaws in a relationship–whatever relationship it is–people instantly get defensive when it’s something they love because again, they don’t want to acknowledge that something they love and care about is morally and ethically problematic.
Ship what you’re going to ship. That has always been our motto ’round these parts. But it doesn’t mean that you should turn a blind eye to how it’s being presented. Because the fact is, it’s being presented horrifyingly.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumBelle is not abusive
Physically? No. Emotionally, absolutely. He toys with people the same way he toys with words. He put her through the wringer. He lied to her. He manipulated her. He used her. He is going to destroy people she cares about. He HURT HER. He made her doubt herself. He made her not trust her instincts. Not all abuse is physical. And now he thinks that he can simply rewrite his happy ending using the Author to have it all–giving her NO CHOICE in the matter.
I agree, wholeheartedly.
Ship what you’re going to ship. That has always been our motto ’round these parts. But it doesn’t mean that you should turn a blind eye to how it’s being presented. Because the fact is, it’s being presented horrifyingly.
I agree.
RumBelle is not abusive
Physically? No. Emotionally, absolutely. He toys with people the same way he toys with words. He put her through the wringer. He lied to her. He manipulated her. He used her. He is going to destroy people she cares about. He HURT HER. He made her doubt herself. He made her not trust her instincts. Not all abuse is physical. And now he thinks that he can simply rewrite his happy ending using the Author to have it all–giving her NO CHOICE in the matter.
I agree, wholeheartedly.
Ship what you’re going to ship. That has always been our motto ’round these parts. But it doesn’t mean that you should turn a blind eye to how it’s being presented. Because the fact is, it’s being presented horrifyingly.
I agree.
I disagree, and that’s all I’ll say on the matter. You’re entitled to your opinion and I’m entitled to mine.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of Felix
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