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April 27, 2015 at 12:52 am #302829TheGoldenKeyParticipant
I’m the odd gal out as I believe that this is not the end for Rumbelle. While there are lots of arguments supporting that it’s the end, and I agree with much that was said, I’m trying to think along the lines of A&E.
Rumple did something unselfish by returning Belle’s heart to her. He also acknowledged defeat and acceptance when he told her that Will is now the man to protect her heart.
A few things I noticed was the look of happiness when Rumple restore her heart and she came out of her trance and looked upon his face. She still loves him.
When Will reached for her hand, she didn’t reciprocate. She just doesn’t feel that way about Will.
As Rumple left the shop, she pulled away from Will and you could see the look of pain & love in her face for Rumple.
They directed that scene with very telling signs about how Belle truly feels about Rumple.
So, I say it’s not over and what Rumple did will allow Belle to open her heart and forgive him again.
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April 27, 2015 at 1:35 am #302831MatthewPaulModeratorI’m the odd gal out as I believe that this is not the end for Rumbelle. While there are lots of arguments supporting that it’s the end, and I agree with much that was said, I’m trying to think along the lines of A&E.
Rumple did something unselfish by returning Belle’s heart to her. He also acknowledged defeat and acceptance when he told her that Will is now the man to protect her heart.
A few things I noticed was the look of happiness when Rumple restore her heart and she came out of her trance and looked upon his face. She still loves him.
When Will reached for her hand, she didn’t reciprocate. She just doesn’t feel that way about Will.
As Rumple left the shop, she pulled away from Will and you could see the look of pain & love in her face for Rumple.
They directed that scene with very telling signs about how Belle truly feels about Rumple.
So, I say it’s not over and what Rumple did will allow Belle to open her heart and forgive him again.
I pretty much agree with everything you just said. The scene screamed more Belle not being over Rumple, and a possible hint of her and Will not lasting. I’m also one of the few here who doesn’t think Rumple is going to die at the end of the Season, so hey.
April 27, 2015 at 6:42 am #302844onceaholicParticipantThe scene between Rumple and Belle tonight really made me wonder – is this the end? After Rumple left the shop, Belle looked like she was going to go after him (even letting go of Will’s hand) – but she didn’t. It seemed that she was finally letting him go. I’d love to hear all your thoughts about it!
It seemed to be.
And I really hope so.
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April 27, 2015 at 7:23 am #302854RumplesGirlKeymasterI’m the odd gal out as I believe that this is not the end for Rumbelle. While there are lots of arguments supporting that it’s the end, and I agree with much that was said, I’m trying to think along the lines of A&E. Rumple did something unselfish by returning Belle’s heart to her. He also acknowledged defeat and acceptance when he told her that Will is now the man to protect her heart. A few things I noticed was the look of happiness when Rumple restore her heart and she came out of her trance and looked upon his face. She still loves him. When Will reached for her hand, she didn’t reciprocate. She just doesn’t feel that way about Will. As Rumple left the shop, she pulled away from Will and you could see the look of pain & love in her face for Rumple. They directed that scene with very telling signs about how Belle truly feels about Rumple. So, I say it’s not over and what Rumple did will allow Belle to open her heart and forgive him again.
I agree that it was shot that way. And they’ve given other hints this season that Belle isn’t over him, of course. I just don’t think there is any amount of tap dancing this show can do to convince me that putting them back together is a good idea.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 27, 2015 at 8:32 am #302862PheeParticipantDidn’t feel like the end to me. Felt like the start of Belle thinking maybe there IS still some tiny bit of good left in him after all. That doesn’t necessarily mean that they’ll get back together, because I’m in the club who thinks he’s likely to die, but if he does, I expect a deathbed reconciliation for them. This scene didn’t feel like the last Rumbelle scene they’re ever gonna do IMO.
The most interesting part of the scene to me was Will’s head being turned aside in the background when Rumple was putting her heart back in. I wanna know what Will was thinking! Was he just diverting his eyes because it was an intimate moment and he felt like he was intruding? Or was it a reaction to what Rumple had said about how Will would look after her, (I’ve said before that I thought Will might have been using Belle to find a way back to WL)?
April 27, 2015 at 11:12 am #302870KebParticipantOr maybe it reminded him of what he gave up for Anastasia, and how it felt when he loved her again?
He’s been in Belle’s place. If the dang writers would just ACKNOWLEDGE that.
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April 27, 2015 at 11:49 am #302871Grace HeatherParticipantGosh, I really hope not! If they kill off Rumple again this season then I feel like I may be done with this show because it means the writing is getting really lazy and redundant, and Rumple is the main reason I stick to OUAT in the first place. They already killed him off in season 3A and resurrected him in 3B. If they kill Rumple off again, then what was the whole point in bringing him back in the first place? Just to make him darker and suffer more than ever before, and then just kill him off again? That would ruin the whole purpose of his character for me. Plus, if they kill Rumple off again, OUAT is most likely going to lose a lot of viewers, as Rumple is one of the most popular characters on the show next to Regina, and the show will probably not get renewed for a fifth season, or last very long if they do without Rumple stirring things up in Storybrooke. Curse or no curse, he’s the only character on the show with enough history and connections to keep OUAT going strong.
I totally agree that Belle is not over Rumple, and I really hope that she can find a way to save him before it’s too late! I’m a little confused as to why he’s still trying to turn Emma dark, though? I feel like he was being mostly sincere with Belle, but a small part wonders if he is manipulating her at all…I really hope that he’s not! Adam and Eddie said that Rumbelle wasn’t over, but they are killing me with all these short little cliffhanger reunions!
April 27, 2015 at 12:03 pm #302874nevermoreParticipantGosh, I really hope not! If they kill off Rumple again this season then I feel like I may be done with this show because it means the writing is getting really lazy and redundant, and Rumple is the main reason I stick to OUAT in the first place.
Amen to that.
Just to make him darker and suffer more than ever before, and then just kill him off again?
I think the theory is that they will complete the character assassination, then redeem him for all of 30 seconds in a heart-wrenching scene before his final demise, thus moving on to season 5 which will likely be the last one, and as such A&E don’t have to be too concerned with viewership. Would this count as lazy writing? Yep. What a surprise.
I hope I’m wrong, but I tend to agree with some of the folks on this forum, that by this point they dug a hole so deep for Rumple’s character that getting him out of it isn’t going to be possible. Egh. I hate how this show with its love of shiny plot ends up turning a section of its audience into embattled cynics. Wasn’t it supposed to be about hope? *sigh*
April 27, 2015 at 12:04 pm #302875MatthewPaulModeratorthe show will probably not get renewed for a fifth season, or last very long if they do without Rumple stirring things up in Storybrooke.
No, the renewal is based on the total average for the entire Season, and TVByTheNumbers (an accurate ratings source and analyst site) has it listed as certain to be renewed. Also, Josh Dallas let it slip that they return to film in July. It’s Season 6 that is the question.
April 27, 2015 at 12:34 pm #302878Grace HeatherParticipantthe show will probably not get renewed for a fifth season, or last very long if they do without Rumple stirring things up in Storybrooke.
No, the renewal is based on the total average for the entire Season, and TVByTheNumbers (an accurate ratings source and analyst site) has it listed as certain to be renewed. Also, Josh Dallas let it slip that they return to film in July. It’s Season 6 that is the question.
Josh Dallas said IF they get renewed for a season five. That doesn’t necessarily mean that they will. Personally, I’m kind of hoping that no dies. I really hate how OUAT has become so depressing and angsty this season. At least if Emma’s the one who “dies” or disappears we know that they would be obligated to resurrect her character, and OUAT would most likely get renewed for a fifth season by ABC because that would be a great twist, and the savior can’t stay dead. I can almost guarantee that ratings will go way down if Rumple and/or Regina are the ones to die this season because A&E would not be obligated to bring either of them back from the dead.
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