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That’s what I believe is going to cause the end of Rumbelle. Rumple is going to accept his fate, probably say a final kiss/hug/”We will always have our chipped cup” good-bye, then either permanently die or become the man he was before the Dark One curse. Plus, the writers may think it’s poetic that both father and son “died” in one season then actually died in the next (however twisted that sounds to me, but that’s a different debate).
I think that this is a distinct possibility. Rumpel’s dark one curse is finally undone, he transforms back into a man, but having been undone, he dies a mortal death. Robert Carlyle may be back next season as Rumple in flashbacks, but Mr. Gold will be dead in the present day. Hence, Belle’s love for him will live on in memory only, while her relationship with Will shall continue, having been so sanctioned by her dearly departed husband.
[adrotate group="5"]"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Robert Carlyle may be back next season as Rumple in flashbacks, but Mr. Gold will be dead in the present day.
Yes it’s a way to keep him contracted but to ease up on his requirements if Bobby wanted less to do, doesn’t want to film as much, or is simply unhappy in the way some things are being told on screen. Having Rumple totally out of the flashbacks would be weird after 4 seasons of seeing how he literally knows everyone.
Hence, Belle’s love for him will live on in memory only, while her relationship with Will shall continue, having been so sanctioned by her dearly departed husband.
I have such mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, the idea that the “ex” has to sanction anything makes me see Feminist Red. Belle surely doesn’t need his permission to move on. It’s nice to have his understanding and his love, but the idea that the relationship between Will and Belle (whatever I personally feel about it, see below) isn’t legitimate or real because Rumple hasn’t given his okay is rather…icky. On the other hand I’m sure it would give Belle some peace of mind to know that Rumple just wants her to be happy and has removed himself so that she can move on if she so chooses.
As for Will and Belle…yeah, I still hate this. And it’s not even because of Rumbelle at this point. It’s just because of Will/Ana. (no seriously. tell me what happened to her already)
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"If they are playing with O and E myth, then it’s worth pointing out that in the end Orpheus loses Eurydice
In reverse in that Orpheus is Belle and Rumple is Eurydice?
That fits, but I was thinking of it more as an attitude-reversal: instead of journeying into the underworld to try to get her back and failing, he’s come back temporarily to say goodbye so that she can move on from him.
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I have such mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, the idea that the “ex” has to sanction anything makes me see Feminist Red. Belle surely doesn’t need his permission to move on. It’s nice to have his understanding and his love, but the idea that the relationship between Will and Belle (whatever I personally feel about it, see below) isn’t legitimate or real because Rumple hasn’t given his okay is rather…icky. On the other hand I’m sure it would give Belle some peace of mind to know that Rumple just wants her to be happy and has removed himself so that she can move on if she so chooses.
Believe me, I don’t think Rumple’s “blessing” was at all required for Belle to move on with Will. I included that line with a sardonic note, as the term “dearly departed husband” was intended to connote. As Rumple said, he treated Belle horribly and was unworthy of her love. He didn’t do right by her. His returning her heart was a step in the right direction, and his not standing in the way of Will was the correct thing to do, but it wasn’t required for Belle to move on. She doesn’t “need” his permission to look for love elsewhere. However, Rumple doing so may help give Belle closure. That is what that conversation was all about in my opinion: giving closure.
As for Will and Belle…yeah, I still hate this. And it’s not even because of Rumbelle at this point. It’s just because of Will/Ana. (no seriously. tell me what happened to her already)
Seriously!
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I have such mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, the idea that the “ex” has to sanction anything makes me see Feminist Red. Belle surely doesn’t need his permission to move on. It’s nice to have his understanding and his love, but the idea that the relationship between Will and Belle (whatever I personally feel about it, see below) isn’t legitimate or real because Rumple hasn’t given his okay is rather…icky.
This scene bugged for most of the reasons mentioned above. I hated the fact that they wrote Belle no dialog at all to explain her feelings on the matter. It was just Rumple giving another speech about all the things he did wrong and how he gave his blessing on a decision Belle already made without his input!
That is what that conversation was all about in my opinion: giving closure.
It was closure for Rumple, but did it bring any closure for Belle?
This scene bugged for most of the reasons mentioned above. I hated the fact that they wrote Belle no dialog at all to explain her feelings on the matter. It was just Rumple giving another speech about all the things he did wrong and how he gave his blessing on a decision Belle already made without his input!
All fair points! It’s sad. Belle is finally free of Rumple, but she is still in danger of being emotionally lured back into an enabling role. I think Belle needs to steer clear, because of the emotional hold he has on her. Rumple himself recognizes he’s a hazard to Belle and that his inner darkness threatens to consume him.
It was closure for Rumple, but did it bring any closure for Belle?
Good question. I suppose Rumple’s speech to Belle does seem more like closure for Rumple than for Belle, who already made the choice to move on romanitically. As she said to Rumple in 4×11, he’s already lost her.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
t was closure for Rumple, but did it bring any closure for Belle?
I think it’s pretty clear that it did not give Belle closure. Her letting go of Will’s hand when he reached for her seems pretty neon flash-y that suddenly the Rumple-inflicted wounds that were just beginning to heal (a little at least) were reopened. And I won’t lie, part of me wonders if that wasn’t Rumple’s intention all along. He is the master manipulator and while long ago I would have thought it extremely unlikely that he’d manipulate Belle is such a manner, he clearly has no qualms about doing it now. Over and over.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I think it’s pretty clear that it did not give Belle closure. Her letting go of Will’s hand when he reached for her seems pretty neon flash-y that suddenly the Rumple-inflicted wounds that were just beginning to heal (a little at least) were reopened. And I won’t lie, part of me wonders if that wasn’t Rumple’s intention all along. He is the master manipulator and while long ago I would have thought it extremely unlikely that he’d manipulate Belle is such a manner, he clearly has no qualms about doing it now. Over and over.
I thought it was genuine, but you’ve got me wondering now. Rumpel knows that when Belle takes action against him, the results can be devastating for his plans, and now he’s made that much less likely to happen this time.
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He is the master manipulator and while long ago I would have thought it extremely unlikely that he’d manipulate Belle is such a manner, he clearly has no qualms about doing it now.
I hate to think it but I do think it was manipulation. Rumple wanted to be the one to return Belle’s heart. If he truly wanted her to be free of him and move on with Will, wouldn’t it have been sweeter for Will to return her heart?
edit: Sorry. Quote from RumplesGirl
I hate to think it but I do think it was manipulation. Rumple wanted to be the one to return Belle’s heart. If he truly wanted her to be free of him and move on with Will, wouldn’t it have been sweeter for Will to return her heart?
Exactly. Will is no stranger to hearts, taking and giving. He could have easily given Belle her heart and Rumple, if his intention was truly knowing that Belle was safe and happy, could have been content knowing that Belle was fine, safe from Regina once more and that Will would watch out for her. But instead he saunters into the shop, gives this huge speech, and then literally puts her heart back in her chest. He knows that this will hit her like a ton of bricks and that whatever feelings she has for Will will be temporarily (or perhaps longer) squashed by the gesture. She has always appreciated and been responsive to gestures, something Rumple knows.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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