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May 13, 2013 at 10:55 pm #194018
Snickerdoodle
ParticipantWendy specifically said time moves differently in NL. Like the 2:1 ratio idea. But I also like the idea of moving through time not LOSTY style though. Maybe more the ability to peek into time and pull something out the way they did with Jefferson’s hat and the apple. I still like the idea that NL may be the ultimate representation of Jefferson’s hat. Portals available to many worlds and many times.
I know someone suggested the drawing of Henry being from a seer; have also heard some “Back to the Future” ideas that would make Henry reborn through Emma into our time.
But I’m on board with the time thing as a possibility somehow. No matter what K&H have said, they told us they couldn’t get the rights to PP back in season 1; doesn’t mean things don’t change. Ideas are ever evolving in a writer’s room.
[adrotate group="5"]May 14, 2013 at 3:36 am #194097Daniel J. Lewis
KeymasterI often quoted Mr. Gold’s line to August about crossing time and space. That was a major reason for my belief that Bae never went to Neverland.
But now I’m thinking that Neverland time moves faster, even though people don’t age. And Peter is simply either a seer or has access to one.
But it’s still fun to consider the possibility of a world completely outside of time.
May 14, 2013 at 4:01 am #194101laurieanne
Participant1. My head is spinning from the picture of Henry and all the theories about what that means.
2. The t-word is a curse in and of itself.
3. Would a seer be able to “dictate” a photographic likeness of Henry? Sounds pretty specific for a Seer. The only one we’ve seen says the future is like a puzzle and can’t be viewed in its entirety.
4. Do we have to understand physics in order to understand what is happening here? 😮
5. I may be forced to be content with waiting for an explanation from A & E. It’s either that or make time lining my full time job. I see no other alternative. Still so much incomplete information!May 14, 2013 at 4:46 am #194111kfchimera
ParticipantI rambled into this idea on another thread–but what if the time it takes to get back from NL varies from person to person? So while you are there, time passes but you don’t age, but then when you try to go home, it could be as little as a day to as much as centuries? Just like when you compare two planes with different flight paths, one could leave later and get in earlier than the other. The only thing different is that portals always seem instantaneous to the person traveling, but may not be. That is still not time travel since you cannot go back to before you left.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
May 14, 2013 at 12:39 pm #194156Phee
Participant@LaurieAnne wrote:
2. The t-word is a curse in and of itself.
So. Much. WORD. *headdesk*
😆At the end of the day I dunno that we can really compare the passage of time in NL to the passage of time in other worlds, because I think it has to be a totally separate thing. Wendy didn’t say, “No wonder it felt like time was racing by when I was there.” To her, it seemed that she’d been there longer…days and night still felt like the same amount of time…but she was gone for more days and nights than she actually was. In this case, “it’s magic” is enough of an explanation for me. Trying to understand it any other way makes my head hurt.
May 14, 2013 at 12:49 pm #194159RumplesGirl
KeymasterT-word is canon guys. Myril added it to our acronyms page. It’s Canon! *twitch*
I still don’t think NL moves faster in time because to me that doesn’t make much sense. Bae would have aged (unless you think he became Peter Pan, Daniel).
If time in NL passes at all, and I don’t think it does because Peter uses the shadows of the captured boys to fuel the island and keep it from moving in time thus remaining the boy who didn’t want to grow up (my theory at present), then it moves much slower.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 14, 2013 at 12:55 pm #194162Phee
Participant@RumplesGirl wrote:
T-word is canon guys. Myril added it to our acronyms page. It’s Canon! *twitch*
Love it, thanks myril! 😆
If time in NL passes at all, and I don’t think it does because Peter uses the shadows of the captured boys to fuel the island and keep it from moving in time thus remaining the boy who didn’t want to grow up (my theory at present), then it moves much slower.
Time has to “pass” in the sense that the forces of the cosmos are in motion, so they have day and night, (we’ve seen both in NL). In our world, we use the constraints of a thing called “time” to measure and explain that. But I don’t think that our explanation of time applies to whatever’s going on in NL.
May 14, 2013 at 12:59 pm #194164RumplesGirl
KeymasterYes, time passes in that sense but does it pass for the boys of the island in that they don’t grow up? If it does, then I think it has to pass reallllllllly slowly. Like for every one hundred years you live in NL, you age one year. And the time issues must affect all of NL, not just the island, because and Smee did not age.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 14, 2013 at 1:14 pm #194166Phee
ParticipantIt just occurred to me that shadows are tied to the passage of time in the sense that the angle of a shadow can tell you the time of day. So perhaps your idea of removed shadows fueling NL’s ability to prevent aging could be tied into that somehow? Obviously you don’t have to have your shadow removed in order to not age, but maybe just as long as it happens to enough people, it works for everyone?
Man, my brain is gonna be mush by the time hiatus is over and I’ve spent months pondering this stuff. 😆
May 14, 2013 at 1:21 pm #194169RumplesGirl
Keymaster@Phee wrote:
It just occurred to me that shadows are tied to the passage of time in the sense that the angle of a shadow can tell you the time of day. So perhaps your idea of removed shadows fueling NL’s ability to prevent aging could be tied into that somehow? Obviously you don’t have to have your shadow removed in order to not age, but maybe just as long as it happens to enough people, it works for everyone?
Man, my brain is gonna be mush by the time hiatus is over and I’ve spent months pondering this stuff. 😆
Oooh. I like this adaptation to my thoughts. If Peter takes them to fuel the island so that time won’t pass (or passes very slowly, hence why he still needs to take them) then the children wouldn’t either. Then Henry’s shadow for some reason (child of true love, a child born of FTL parents in a land without magic) is like batteries that won’t ever die. It can fuel the island forever, it’s the perfect “sacrifice.”
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