Is time parallel and can Neverland move through time?

[kfchimera]

It’s magic is truly the best explanation, because even with the magic v. science storyline I don’t see this show trying to be logical about things like space-time and time dilation and such. Still, I think time wouldn’t have to be passing at a constant rate difference between the lands, if the lands are moving in relation to each other.
A simpler approach for the writers then would be to assume that one doesn’t age in NL, and the journey back from there may take what seems an instant, but could lead to varying amounts of time having passed in whatever land you go to next. You could never go to your own past through NL, but you could potentially jump far into the future in the sense that years have passed in your homeland since you were gone. That would let them play with how much time Hook and Bae spend in NL without messing up continuity with FTL or LWOM.

The idea that the shadow might have to do with aging is interesting. I’m still not sure I’m on board with the “Henry’s shadow is necessary for a final sacrifice” idea. I think it has to tie to the Dark One somehow.

[RumplesGirl]

The idea that the shadow might have to do with aging is interesting. I’m still not sure I’m on board with the “Henry’s shadow is necessary for a final sacrifice” idea. I think it has to tie to the Dark One somehow.

What if it could be either Henry OR the Dark One’s shadow? And that’s Rumple’s undoing? He sacrifices his powers and “Dark One” shadow in order to save Henry. That way both Henry and Peter are his undoing.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[angiebelle]

What I wonder is, if they come up with a way to communicate with someone back in Storybrooke, say Belle, how would that work if time is slower in Neverland and a long time there is a short time here?

[RumplesGirl]

@AngieBelle wrote:

What I wonder is, if they come up with a way to communicate with someone back in Storybrooke, say Belle, how would that work if time is slower in Neverland and a long time there is a short time here?

If “time” (the ability to age at least) doesn’t move, if they exist in a bubble of sorts, then wouldn’t time continue to pass outside the “bubble” of Neverland at a regular interval? So while “time” is standing still in NL, it moves in SB. I don’t think it would cause any problems, in other worlds Rumple won’t being “calling” the past and talk to himself or something. Each lands exists in it’s own bubble where time and magic are different but they don’t affect the other. We know Neverland has days and night but you just don’t age (or at least age very slowly). Maybe instead of saying that time doesn’t pass in NL we should be saying that your own clock doesn’t tick. You don’t age even though TIME passes.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[angiebelle]

I didn’t mean the non-aging thing. I was thinking more along the lines of how Wendy had been gone for only one night in our world but she implied it was much longer in Neverland. So much more time would have gone by for Rumple than for Belle- if Belle were needed to help with something, for example, she would have to work fast.

[RumplesGirl]

@AngieBelle wrote:

I didn’t mean the non-aging thing. I was thinking more along the lines of how Wendy had been gone for only one night in our world but she implied it was much longer in Neverland. So much more time would have gone by for Rumple than for Belle- if Belle were needed to help with something, for example, she would have to work fast.

Does anyone else maybe thing that when Wendy said “it felt like much longer” in regards to time maybe she meant emotionally? You know when you’re really upset and sad it feels like the day will never end?

And AngieBelle: I see what you mean now. But I think day and night work the same way in NL as they do elsewhere. There are still 24 hours in a day but what stays frozen if you. Maybe NL isn’t frozen in time at all, just the people who live there.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[angiebelle]

I think Adam and Eddy confirmed that time works differently in Neverland. It’s like in Narnia- remember years went by with the children as the princes and princesses of Narnia, but when they returned, almost no time had passed in our world. Then when they went back to Narnia a year later, it was like 1,000 years later in Narnia.

[RumplesGirl]

@AngieBelle wrote:

I think Adam and Eddy confirmed that time works differently in Neverland. It’s like in Narnia- remember years went by with the children as the princes and princesses of Narnia, but when they returned, almost no time had passed in our world. Then when they went back to Narnia a year later, it was like 1,000 years later in Narnia.

I guess I have to question what “time” means when A and E say that. Because like Phee pointed out “time being different” has not affected the rotation of the sun, so far as we can tell. Bae found out about Milah in the daytime and seemingly that night he was taken by the Lost Ones. So far as we could tell time wasn’t moving faster in between those two scenes nor was it moving more slowly. So when they say time moves differently, I wonder if it’s on a personal level: your own personal biological time works differently.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[astrawoid]

I had a question. If people don’t age in NL, do other animals and plants age? Do plants still grow? Can birds lay eggs and then hatch? How are all those things to be explained? Is it just that people do not grow or age?

"We were happy."
"Because... it was born out of true love."

[RumplesGirl]

Going back to what Phee and I were saying:

It just occurred to me that shadows are tied to the passage of time in the sense that the angle of a shadow can tell you the time of day. So perhaps your idea of removed shadows fueling NL’s ability to prevent aging could be tied into that somehow? Obviously you don’t have to have your shadow removed in order to not age, but maybe just as long as it happens to enough people, it works for everyone?

If the shadows are being used to power the island’s magical powers to keep everyone from again, then it could also be that without your shadow you don’t age.
So my “full” theory might be: Peter has been taking the shadows of young boys in order to keep from again because the shadows are a source of “fuel” for Neverland. Time passes but people don’t age. Henry’s shadow is like the ultimate shadow, it would keep NL running forever. The Dark One’s shadow would also work and this is where Rumple’s undoing will come into play. He will sacrifice his Dark One’s self/shadow for Henry. Thus both Peter and Henry are his undoing.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

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