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April 20, 2012 at 2:54 pm #143001SnickerdoodleParticipant
No the paperweight is the sad donkey Pinnochio becomes in the Disney movie version. Look again 😉
[adrotate group="5"]April 20, 2012 at 4:47 pm #143011PheeParticipant@sjm wrote:
No the paperweight is the sad donkey Pinnochio becomes in the Disney movie version. Look again 😉
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April 20, 2012 at 4:57 pm #143012angiebelleParticipantOh yeah- maybe it is a donkey! I saw a wolf initially, but you could be right. I have been fighting so hard for the Pinocchio theory that I’m going to feel really embarrassed if I’m wrong.
I do think that if I’m right and he is Pinocchio, there is still a whole interesting backstory that we haven’t heard yet. Some people think the idea that he is Pinocchio would be disappointing, but I think it’s full of potential. He grew up- and we have no idea what turns his life might have taken during that time. Nor do we know the show’s take on the traditional story. There are still many directions that they could take this.
August does seem to have a connection to Mr. Gold…but Mr. Gold has a connection to Pinocchio’s story through Gepetto since his spell turned Gepetto’s parents into puppets. Mr. Gold has a connection to Jimminy too. So who knows?
April 20, 2012 at 7:12 pm #143029hjbauParticipantI do think that the Pinocchio theory is the most obvious. There is so much evidence that he is Pinocchio it seems like over kill, but then there is the biggest issue for me in that he doesn’t look a bit like the child Pinocchio.
April 20, 2012 at 7:31 pm #143034SnickerdoodleParticipantI keep thinking if he’s Pinnochio how sad that Gepetto doesn’t know who he is, yet. I hate to say it, but I have a feeling we are going to lose him by the end of the season. I love August, but I’m afraid he’s not so indispensible.
April 20, 2012 at 8:55 pm #143052PheeParticipant@sjm wrote:
I keep thinking if he’s Pinnochio how sad that Gepetto doesn’t know who he is, yet.
I’ll bet August’s been watching his dad from afar, wishing he could just go up and hug him.
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I hate to say it, but I have a feeling we are going to lose him by the end of the season.
I really don’t get the feeling they’d kill him off. If he is in fact Pinocchio, that means he has a very particular connection to Emma that no one else has, that they’re the only two characters from FTL that escaped the curse as children. That relationship has so much potential for development, and I’m not even strictly talking in a romantic sense, I mean that once Emma realises who they both are, she’ll have a bond with him like she’s never had with anyone in her life. They’ll pretty much be like family.
Also, the last guy Emma started to open up to and develop an emotional connection with, they killed him off. I doubt they’d pull that trick again, especially not in the first season. Or at least I hope they don’t and would be bummed if they do.
April 21, 2012 at 3:49 pm #143126SlurpeezParticipantMore information form Jane Espenson on what to expect with Mr. Gold this episode:
For someone who is so powerful in fairy-tale land and retains all his memories in Storybrooke, we can’t help but feel that Mr. Gold got the short end of the stick with happily ever afters. “There’s something that Mr. Gold wants very much,” Espenson explains. “That is what Sunday night’s episode is going to be about—what does Gold want and why?” Could it be his son or his true love, Belle? But remember, there is that whole creepy obsession with babies.
Mr. Gold will also be trying to figure out August’s real identity, so what’s your favorite theory? The most intriguing one we’ve seen that August is Baelfire and Pinocchio but Espenson says, “I think it would be hard for him to be both, although that’s fascinating.” Not to fear Once theorists, Espenson says she’s seen people guess correctly, “But you’ve got to be careful of clues, because one is a clue, a real clue and one is a mislead.” But she assures us, “Questions will be answered. And answers will be questioned.” http://uk.eonline.com/news/watch_with_kristin/once_upon_time_mr_golds_goal_finale/310408#ixzz1sgrfrFKF
Plus, a very detailed Q&A:
Genre-TV go-to gal Jane Espenson, who penned this week’s hour, spoke with TVLine about Mr. Gold’s unique dilemma (being aware of his own past and all), what’s ahead for Mary Margaret and David, and the sneak peek we’re about to get at a grand finale showdown.
TVLINE | So, this is the episode where Mr. Gold (played by Robert Carlyle) gets on the couch, as a new patient of Archie’s?
[Laughs] Yes, Mr. Gold is going to talk to our friendly neighborhood cricket.TVLINE | Is he genuinely seeking personal betterment, or is he working an angle?
Before he knocks on the door of Archie’s office, watch carefully, because there’s an interesting shot that will answer that question. But he’s going through real stuff in this episode.TVLINE | Why?He’s trying to figure out who August is, and at the same time the fairytale story has him dealing with his beloved son Baelfire. Questions will be raised about August that push his buttons in a genuine way. Because Mr. Gold has all those memories, unlike most characters when we flash back, we see things he actually remembers, so he’ll be thinking about his son.
TVLINE | This episode features Baelfire, and next week’s has Geppetto and Pinocchio…. It would seem that somewhere in there lies the answer to August’s identity.
Unless they’re both misleads. [Laughs] Sometimes you’re like, “Well, that’s definitely a clue,” and then you go, “Wait, is this a clue to the real answer or is it to mislead me?” We’re very good at the misleads.TVLINE | If August reveals a Louisville Slugger tattoo on his arm, I’m going to take that as a sign. [Laughs] Could be!
TVLINE | What in particular sets Mr. Gold on this mission to crack the August mystery?
August is going to do something that catches his attention. August is a great character and Mr. Gold just could not be more fascinating. You talk about peeling back the layers of an onion, but if you do that you end up with nothing in the middle. But with Mr. Gold you keep hitting more substance. It’s more like there’s candy inside the onion!TVLINE | Do I understand correctly that if Baelfire can find a way to have his father’s powers safely taken away, Rumpel is open to it…?
That very question is what Rumpelstiltskin is wrestling with. The answering of that question drives the episode.TVLINE | Where do things stand with Mary Margaret and David now that Kathryn has been found? Is she still cheesed off that he briefly seemed to suspect her?
That’s not a thing you get over quickly. I have a good feeling about them making it work in the long-term, but they’ve got a lot of obstacles to get through. Hang tight for the season finale (airing May 13), where you’ll get some resolution.
TVLINE | This week Emma confronts Regina about her involvement in Kathryn’s vanishing. What sort of evidence does she present?
She’s going to have some concrete evidence, but the problem with Regina is you can ever really get enough evidence — she’s so good at this, and she’s got people working with her and for her – so this is more about how Regina reacts to the reemergence of Kathryn. This confrontation between Emma and Regina is a prequel to a later confrontation that’s going to absolutely thrill and delight. This season finale is go to be one of the best hours of television you’re ever going to see in your life. I am blown away by it. Absolutely everything happens. The confrontations, relationship resolution…. There’s a lot going down!
http://tvline.com/2012/04/20/once-upon-a-time-preview-episode-19-season-finale/"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
April 21, 2012 at 11:08 pm #143150nonnieParticipantslurpeez108 wrote:Look to see what August’s paperweight is. Keep an eye out for that.
As if I wasn’t already impatient enough for the new ep.
spoiler: IN the preview spoilers they show a TODO dog… but those hints are all there to throw us off ( in my opinion) Writers / creators along with coming up with the scripts must put a lot of thought into how to throw us off track….. AFTER ALL who would watch a show when they can figure out all the story a head of time….. too predictable.
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April 21, 2012 at 11:54 pm #143153midnight drearyParticipant@NONNIE wrote:
slurpeez108 wrote:Look to see what August’s paperweight is. Keep an eye out for that.
As if I wasn’t already impatient enough for the new ep.
spoiler: IN the preview spoilers they show a TODO dog… but those hints are all there to throw us off ( in my opinion) Writers / creators along with coming up with the scripts must put a lot of thought into how to throw us off track….. AFTER ALL who would watch a show when they can figure out all the story a head of time….. too predictable.
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Ooo! Good eye! 😀 Maybe the stories of Pinocchio and Oz will factor into the show. Maybe they’re both connected somehow. I think August is Pinnocchio and Baelfire is Oz, and maybe somehow they crossed paths and agreed to take down Rumpel and Regina. I know it sounds out there, but that’s all I got. 😆
April 22, 2012 at 1:15 am #143157SnickerdoodleParticipantI think August is Pinnocchio and Baelfire is Oz, and maybe somehow they crossed paths and agreed to take down Rumpel and Regina. I know it sounds out there, but that’s all I got.
I’m with you, except I’m still rooting for Baelfire to be Peter Pan 🙂
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