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July 10, 2013 at 10:23 am #200023RumplesGirlKeymaster
But what I don’t understand, if PP wanted Henry to be born, by letting Neal go, why PP wants to kill Henry? As what Felix said in 2×22, that Bea was lucky to stay alive. I assume they want kill Henry.
PP needs Henry for something; he needs his heart or his shadow. Without Henry, either PP himself or NL are in danger, I believe.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"July 10, 2013 at 10:37 am #200024PheeParticipantWhat if, in order to get Hook out of NL and stop being a plague to PP, PP had Tink offer Hook information on Rumple, specifically: Belle. Tink, who has been traveling back and forth between worlds, learned of Rumple’s TL with Belle and told PP. We still don’t know how Hook learned of Belle and that Regina was holding her captive. PP could have offered to tell Hook vital information about getting revenge on Rumple in exchange for getting Hook out of NL.
I like that! Had been toying with the idea what maybe Maleficent coughed up the info to spite her frenemy, but having Tink tell him would be a great twist too.
But what I don’t understand, if PP wanted Henry to be born, by letting Neal go, why PP wants to kill Henry? As what Felix said in 2×22, that Bea was lucky to stay alive. I assume they want kill Henry.
At the moment I’m sorta liking the theory that PP wants to take Henry’s heart. If Felix has never seen that done before, and all he knows is that the boy is gonna have his heart ripped out, then it’s a reasonable thing for him to imply that the boy in the pic is gonna die. It could be a cool storyline if PP puts Henry’s heart into his own body, and then they have to figure out a way to defeat PP without just killing him, because if he dies, Henry dies too.
July 10, 2013 at 10:50 am #200025RumplesGirlKeymasterAt the moment I’m sorta liking the theory that PP wants to take Henry’s heart. If Felix has never seen that done before, and all he knows is that the boy is gonna have his heart ripped out, then it’s a reasonable thing for him to imply that the boy in the pic is gonna die. It could be a cool storyline if PP puts Henry’s heart into his own body, and then they have to figure out a way to defeat PP without just killing him, because if he dies, Henry dies too.
The one problem I run into with this theory is that we need to figure out why PP would be ripping shadows off other boys if what he is after are hearts. Do the shadows keep him alive until he can get Henry’s heart? Do the shadows have something to do with sustaining the magic of NL or of PP himself?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"July 10, 2013 at 11:02 am #200026PheeParticipantWe don’t know how many shadows he’s ripped though. Before describing the ripping, Felix says, “Do you know what he does to people who lie to him?” That suggests that it’s only something he does to certain people, not everyone he holds captive.
He may be holding them all captive simply because if hoards of young boys are allowed to go home and talk about this magical Shadow that flew them away to a place called NL to see if they were the boy in a picture who a creepy guy called PP was looking for, someone in our world might start paying attention and try to investigate the claims. One or two kids saying it here and there would go unnoticed, but a whole bunch of kids with exactly the same story…slightly more conspicuous…and PP doesn’t want anyone interfering with his plans to find the right boy.
July 10, 2013 at 11:10 am #200028RumplesGirlKeymasterAll good points. So in bringing kids to NL, does PP think he is doing the boys a favor? Did they all come from terrible homes? Or is he just taking kids at random knowing they’ll enjoy NL and then ignoring their pleas to go home? He came to the Darlings but those kids weren’t from a bad situation. In the story (Disney version) PP came to the Darlings window because he liked listening to Wendy telling stories, but why did the Shadow seek out the Darlings before Bae even came to the household?
*head desk* I need spoilers and more information now.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"July 10, 2013 at 11:20 am #200031PheeParticipantDidn’t the Shadow only start visiting the Darlings around the same time Bae showed up?
I’m working on the assumption that all the kids stuck in NL are ones PP ended up collecting in the trial and error of finding the one in the picture.
July 10, 2013 at 11:21 am #200032JosephineParticipantThe Hook/Tink connection. We do know in Peter Pan that Hook has Smee snag Tinkerbelle and tricks her to help lead him to Peter’s hiding place. Her jealously of Wendy is eating her up. She doesn’t care what Hook does to Wendy and the gang, she just wants them gone and if it takes pirates to do it, then so be it. But then Hook twists promise to Tink about not laying a finger or hook on Peter and in the book and live action movie uses poison, in the animated a bomb. He double played her.
I’d thought, as posted earlier about, about fairies and love. I always thought that Nova was the exception, but many not. It isn’t totally strange to hear of a nun leaving an order and no longer being a nun. Maybe a fairy or two can fall in love and not want to be a fairy anymore. I like that theory that Blue was so hard on Nova because she’d seen the results in the past.
I also want to know if fairies can change their size. In the clouds, Blue is the same size as Nova. When Nova comes down to earth, she’s human size. Everytime we’ve seen Blue she’s been tiny. What’s up? I’m hoping it’s explaining. Maybe it’s a bit like Flora, Fauna and Meriwether in Disney’s Sleeping Beauty and they can change sizes.
Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.
July 10, 2013 at 11:24 am #200033RumplesGirlKeymasterDidn’t the Shadow only start visiting the Darlings around the same time Bae showed up? I’m working on the assumption that all the kids stuck in NL are ones PP ended up collecting in the trial and error of finding the one in the picture.
Showed up in London or showed up at the Darlings? I thought it was the former but maybe I’m wrong.
I also want to know if fairies can change their size. In the clouds, Blue is the same size as Nova. When Nova comes down to earth, she’s human size. Everytime we’ve seen Blue she’s been tiny. What’s up? I’m hoping it’s explaining. Maybe it’s a bit like Flora, Fauna and Meriwether in Disney’s Sleeping Beauty and they can change sizes
Is she human sized or dwarf sized?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"July 10, 2013 at 11:30 am #200035JosephineParticipantEven in FTL, they’re not that much shorter than Snow. Since I’m probably shorter than the dwarfs, I assume human size 😀 At least I’m not as short as my aunt who is under five foot.
Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.
July 10, 2013 at 11:34 am #200036RumplesGirlKeymasterEven in FTL, they’re not that much shorter than Snow. Since I’m probably shorter than the dwarfs, I assume human size At least I’m not as short as my aunt who is under five foot.
If Tink has been coming to our world then she would have to be able to turn human sized. So then what’s up with Blue? Maybe it’s only if a fairy sets foot on ground and she’s always flying.
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