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January 11, 2013 at 3:38 pm #167937NobodyParticipant
I am hoping Eva’s surprising connection is with someone else….don’t know who yet…still thinking about it.
But it also creeps me out that Regina would be the step mom to her cousin….and that Leopold married his niece.
[adrotate group="5"]January 11, 2013 at 3:40 pm #167939RumplesGirlKeymasterI don’t think Cora and Eva are sisters just because it would complicate matters SO MUCH. Regina would Snow White’s Step Mother and…uh…cousin?? This family tree is already really complicated.
But I do think that she’ll have a connection to Eva, but not a family one. I think she’s the reason Eva is dead. And right after this episode is the one about young Cora, so I think that makes the most sense."He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"January 11, 2013 at 3:56 pm #167945gypsyParticipantI’m gonna have to side with those who do not think Cora and Snow’s mom are sisters – mainly for the reasons everyone has already stated – especially the fact that Regina would be married to her uncle and step – mom to her cousin – that’s just creepy.
also, because I have a hard time buying into a theory when there isn’t even one clue, allusion or connection to support it.January 11, 2013 at 4:29 pm #167951evilqueenParticipant@TheGoldenKey wrote:
I said that I, you know plain old me, TheGoldenKey, do not believe in the theory. I have a right to voice my opinion without having to repeatedly justify it to you.
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It’s a discussion board, Opinions will differ. Please accept that fact without taking it personally and repeatedly jumping all over someone for expressing theirs.Seems like you answered yourself. It’s a discussion forum and I’m not getting at YOU but responding to your posts and to what you wrote. If I offended you, I am sorry, never meant for that.
And I don’t base my theory on Snow White and Rose Red story – it’s merely an idea that jumped to my head.
What I’m actually theorizing about is that Eva and Cora could be sisters – to which you strongly opposed saying that because of Stable Boy this is definitely impossible. So I responded with my explanation of my thinking, intending to show that I have actual reasons to believe in my theory too, NOT to make you stick to my theory. This is how I see it and I never meant any offense, even though I could’ve come across as somewhat intense 😆January 11, 2013 at 5:10 pm #167957GrimmsisterParticipant@TheGoldenKey wrote:
Is there anything in any of the episodes that would substantiate this or make us suspect this? Anything that the writers or actors have tweeted or said in an interview? I haven’t seen anything. In my mind, The Stable Boy dispels this theory. Nothing personal Medchen. But if we are talking theories, we should be talking both pros and cons. For me, the cons simply out weight the pros.
There has been lots of discussion since this post, seen something in another thread to about Snows mom. People have different opinions thats fine and makes it more exiting, nothing personal I get it..
But we are all passioned about some of our theories. I think thats why we just want other people to feel the same passion, so when someone writes “No way that is true” we get defensive.
I LOVE the theory, or the speculation if you will, that Cora and Eva where sisters. I think this could make for such great storytelling. The mere thought of it makes me go *YIBEE! Dancing all exited* 😀Anyway, as for evidence.
We now know Henry sr. was a prince, who lost his claim to the throne somehow– check
Cora would need motive for hating and wanting revenge on her sister (family intrigues are always the worst and most complicated ones, hence- a reason for Snow and her father the King not knowing Cora and Regina in Stable boy-check) But her sister ‘having it all’, everything Cora ever wanted. Would be motive for jealousy– checkHm! Thats all I can come up with presently, agree- This is no hard on solid evidence for anything, but it does give the theory possibilities. Guess I must put on my Sherlock cloak and hat and go see if I can find some more. 😎
One question though GoldenKey, do you not see how great a story that could come from this if ‘Once’ went this way (with the sisters story) and how many ways it would fit in to everything else ?
January 11, 2013 at 5:17 pm #167958GrimmsisterParticipant@EvilQueen wrote:
This is how I see it and I never meant any offense, even though I could’ve come across as somewhat intense 😆
Well, that is a trademark for Evil Queens isn’t it 😀
January 11, 2013 at 5:32 pm #167961RumplesGirlKeymasterAnyway, as for evidence.
We now know Henry sr. was a prince, who lost his claim to the throne somehow- check
Cora would need motive for hating and wanting revenge on her sister (family intrigues are always the worst and most complicated ones, hence- a reason for Snow and her father the King not knowing Cora and Regina in Stable boy-check) But her sister ‘having it all’, everything Cora ever wanted. Would be motive for jealousy- checkI agree with this except I don’t think that automatically means they are sisters. I think Cora just really wants a throne (any throne) back. And she’s willing for it to be Regina because I think we all know that Cora would be the true power behind the throne. She could kill Eva without it being a family intrigue. We know Cora arranged for Snow’s horse to go go crazy in Stable Boy thus leading for Regina to save SW and met Leopold, so I don’t think it’s far outside the realm of possibility that she’s been plotting to take the throne for much longer.
If Henry did lose his kingdom/throne to George, it wouldn’t make sense for her to go after that realm because George had an heir, the original James who would have been the same age as Snow, and thus not marriageable age for Regina. Killing George wouldn’t help Cora get a throne.
I suppose she could have arranged for Regina to marry George but that wouldn’t be faithful to the original Fairy Tale."He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"January 12, 2013 at 5:51 am #168039scarletladyParticipantI actually have a family member who did something horrible & was estranged from the family. I didn’t even know this person existed until I was 10ish. My mother’s sister was murdered by her husband when she was 19.(my mom was 11) My mother’s sisters children became her younger siblings. I knew 2 of them & never new about the third. That child had been excommunicated around the time I was born. It was to painful for my mother, grandmother or any of my aunts & uncles to talk about. I feel awful but there was a bit of a reconnection because of me at that time. The reunion was very brief this person did something unspeakabile to someone. The family cut off contact again to protect the person hurt. We also had to give up contact with the person who was hurt to keep them truly safe. It breaks my heart & I know it hurts all of my family. I don’t think I’ve ever told my own children because know about a family member being a true monster is awful. I don’t want my children to lose hope in people. I think that was when I did.
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January 12, 2013 at 9:11 am #168047GrimmsisterParticipantScary story 🙁 I feel sad for you. Yeah! like we said family intrigues are the worst ones, all those different peoples, different feelings getting squished inbetween the others.
January 12, 2013 at 9:50 am #168051PheeParticipantThe whole messed up family tree bit doesn’t squick me out because I’ve never looked at Regina and Leopold’s marriage as a “real” marriage. It was just a convenience thing so Snow had a mother figure around, and I doubt that the marriage was ever even consummated, so I’m not really worried that Regina coulda been sleeping with her uncle. Royal family trees are meant to be tied in knots with cousins marrying each other and whatnot. 😛
@Kellyn1604 wrote:
I don’t know…my personal experiences are obviously clouding my judgement but it would be really hard to be married and never talk about yourself especially if they really were as in love as we are lead to believe. There would always be a wall between them which would have kept them from having an end all be all love story….
Sorry about your sister. 🙁 I can only imagine how horrible that must have been, and it’s totally understandable that that would influence your judgement of this situation.
What you say about Eva and Leopold having had a wall up if this theory proved true, well perhaps they did. Or perhaps Eva did sometimes sadly mention a sister, though not by name, who had done wrong and how Eva wished she could have changed and maybe if they’d just given her one more chance. That trait would tie in with the person Snow became, and how we saw her wanting to give Regina one final chance.
@ScarletLady wrote:
I actually have a family member who did something horrible & was estranged from the family. I didn’t even know this person existed until I was 10ish.
What a terrible situation. 🙁 Sorry your family had to go through that.
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